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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:02 pm


Arvis_Jaggamar
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"


Awww, you're so sensitive. We guys don't think like that, though. We see a kid do something stupid and we think "That was stupid." Women, largely, think "Poor dear..."


Actually, that wasn't my knee-jerk response...

I'm torn, really. See, I agree with Drinky a bit. There are some nasty little brats out there at that age. But on the other hand...I mean, it turned out to be a valid question after all, didn't it? He still learned something, right?
'Ah well. I wouldn't have come up with much better. Maybe something along the lines of "What's it look like up there?"
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:40 pm


Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"
Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:50 pm


Arvis_Jaggamar
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"


Awww, you're so sensitive. We guys don't think like that, though. We see a kid do something stupid and we think "That was stupid." Women, largely, think "Poor dear..."
Wow, Arvis. You trying to take my spot or something?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:27 am


Arvis_Jaggamar
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"


Awww, you're so sensitive. We guys don't think like that, though. We see a kid do something stupid and we think "That was stupid." Women, largely, think "Poor dear..."
If that's the case, what would an hermaphrodite think? Or is that one to tough?

Fryderyk


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:12 am


Drinky McIrish
]Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.


No, no apologies! That's very true. You made many points that I should've made earlier.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:47 am


Drinky McIrish
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"
Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.

Now this I 100% agree with. People have been taking many things science has given us. All they care is that they have it and that it works. There could be only one person who understands how the product they love works, and it wouldn't phase them; They wouldn't see it as important that other people understand so this product doesn't just disappear if that one person would have croaked.

Another thing that troubles me is people's ignorance to science. Someone actually told me "There is more and more proof for the Bible and less and less proof for science everyday." Not just Evolution, not just the Big Bang, but SCIENCE. The methodology used to understand the reality around us by observing, testing, and explaining empirical evidence! All of this while typing on a result of science!

This may be a result of poor science education. People don't understand difference between scientific theories that have evidence to support them by means of observation and testing, and the layman's theory where you just pull an idea out of your a**. The latter would mean any "scientist" could come up with a theory and put it in text books.

Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory = Bad Science. Germ Theory, Cell Theory, Atomic Theory, Chromosome Theory of Heredity, etc = Good Science. I don't understand how you can be crazy for denying one accepted theory among scientists(for example Atomic Theory), and be open-minded for denying another(Evolution).

I don't know why, but my generation doesn't seem to think they can trust in the scientific method and believe in their religion at the same time.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:34 pm


I'm tired and refuse to write a long response like everyone else has about how much I agree with Drinky's last post, so I'll say this:

I agree. W00t.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:55 pm


Fryderyk
Arvis_Jaggamar
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"


Awww, you're so sensitive. We guys don't think like that, though. We see a kid do something stupid and we think "That was stupid." Women, largely, think "Poor dear..."
If that's the case, what would an hermaphrodite think? Or is that one to tough?


Like... a "natural" hermaphrodite, or someone who's gone and hermaphrodited themselves?

Yeah, Tango, I don't think ANYONE could EVER take your spot ANYWHERE in ANYTHING.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:55 am


Arvis_Jaggamar
Fryderyk
Arvis_Jaggamar
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"


Awww, you're so sensitive. We guys don't think like that, though. We see a kid do something stupid and we think "That was stupid." Women, largely, think "Poor dear..."
If that's the case, what would an hermaphrodite think? Or is that one to tough?


Like... a "natural" hermaphrodite, or someone who's gone and hermaphrodited themselves?

Yeah, Tango, I don't think ANYONE could EVER take your spot ANYWHERE in ANYTHING.
And yet you're still trying?
I'm flattered, but I have to go punch Canis in the nose right now.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:22 pm


Solus Canis Lupus
Drinky McIrish
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"
Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.

Now this I 100% agree with. People have been taking many things science has given us. All they care is that they have it and that it works. There could be only one person who understands how the product they love works, and it wouldn't phase them; They wouldn't see it as important that other people understand so this product doesn't just disappear if that one person would have croaked.

Another thing that troubles me is people's ignorance to science. Someone actually told me "There is more and more proof for the Bible and less and less proof for science everyday." Not just Evolution, not just the Big Bang, but SCIENCE. The methodology used to understand the reality around us by observing, testing, and explaining empirical evidence! All of this while typing on a result of science!

This may be a result of poor science education. People don't understand difference between scientific theories that have evidence to support them by means of observation and testing, and the layman's theory where you just pull an idea out of your a**. The latter would mean any "scientist" could come up with a theory and put it in text books.

Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory = Bad Science. Germ Theory, Cell Theory, Atomic Theory, Chromosome Theory of Heredity, etc = Good Science. I don't understand how you can be crazy for denying one accepted theory among scientists(for example Atomic Theory), and be open-minded for denying another(Evolution).

I don't know why, but my generation doesn't seem to think they can trust in the scientific method and believe in their religion at the same time.


Yeah, I agree with all of this.
Just another reason I like being Catholic. We're cool with science, just not cloning and embronic stem cell research.

On that note: never could figure out how to fly a kite. They always crashed & never last more than a second or two above ground...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:39 pm


Sakyh
Solus Canis Lupus
Drinky McIrish
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"
Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.

Now this I 100% agree with. People have been taking many things science has given us. All they care is that they have it and that it works. There could be only one person who understands how the product they love works, and it wouldn't phase them; They wouldn't see it as important that other people understand so this product doesn't just disappear if that one person would have croaked.

Another thing that troubles me is people's ignorance to science. Someone actually told me "There is more and more proof for the Bible and less and less proof for science everyday." Not just Evolution, not just the Big Bang, but SCIENCE. The methodology used to understand the reality around us by observing, testing, and explaining empirical evidence! All of this while typing on a result of science!

This may be a result of poor science education. People don't understand difference between scientific theories that have evidence to support them by means of observation and testing, and the layman's theory where you just pull an idea out of your a**. The latter would mean any "scientist" could come up with a theory and put it in text books.

Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory = Bad Science. Germ Theory, Cell Theory, Atomic Theory, Chromosome Theory of Heredity, etc = Good Science. I don't understand how you can be crazy for denying one accepted theory among scientists(for example Atomic Theory), and be open-minded for denying another(Evolution).

I don't know why, but my generation doesn't seem to think they can trust in the scientific method and believe in their religion at the same time.


Yeah, I agree with all of this.
Just another reason I like being Catholic. We're cool with science, just not cloning and embronic stem cell research.

On that note: never could figure out how to fly a kite. They always crashed & never last more than a second or two above ground...

Well cloning doesn't necessarily have to be a whole body. Cloning individual organs is being looked into, and that would eliminate the need to look for someone with the same blood type and tissue for organ transplants as well as drastically reduce the chance of the body rejecting the organ; Nothing like an organ made of cells with your DNA, huh?

But yeah, I understand where you're coming from. I mean the Pope has even acknowledged that evolution could be possible. Methodists I notice tend to be open-minded too. A lot of my friends are at least.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:39 pm


Solus Canis Lupus
Sakyh
Solus Canis Lupus
Drinky McIrish
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"
Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.

Now this I 100% agree with. People have been taking many things science has given us. All they care is that they have it and that it works. There could be only one person who understands how the product they love works, and it wouldn't phase them; They wouldn't see it as important that other people understand so this product doesn't just disappear if that one person would have croaked.

Another thing that troubles me is people's ignorance to science. Someone actually told me "There is more and more proof for the Bible and less and less proof for science everyday." Not just Evolution, not just the Big Bang, but SCIENCE. The methodology used to understand the reality around us by observing, testing, and explaining empirical evidence! All of this while typing on a result of science!

This may be a result of poor science education. People don't understand difference between scientific theories that have evidence to support them by means of observation and testing, and the layman's theory where you just pull an idea out of your a**. The latter would mean any "scientist" could come up with a theory and put it in text books.

Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory = Bad Science. Germ Theory, Cell Theory, Atomic Theory, Chromosome Theory of Heredity, etc = Good Science. I don't understand how you can be crazy for denying one accepted theory among scientists(for example Atomic Theory), and be open-minded for denying another(Evolution).

I don't know why, but my generation doesn't seem to think they can trust in the scientific method and believe in their religion at the same time.


Yeah, I agree with all of this.
Just another reason I like being Catholic. We're cool with science, just not cloning and embronic stem cell research.

On that note: never could figure out how to fly a kite. They always crashed & never last more than a second or two above ground...

Well cloning doesn't necessarily have to be a whole body. Cloning individual organs is being looked into, and that would eliminate the need to look for someone with the same blood type and tissue for organ transplants as well as drastically reduce the chance of the body rejecting the organ; Nothing like an organ made of cells with your DNA, huh?

But yeah, I understand where you're coming from. I mean the Pope has even acknowledged that evolution could be possible. Methodists I notice tend to be open-minded too. A lot of my friends are at least.


My Student Catholic Bible even says that evolution helps proves God's existance more than it doesn't.

Sakyh
Crew


Heir Kaiba
Crew

O.G. Gaian

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:42 pm


Sakyh
Solus Canis Lupus
Drinky McIrish
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"
Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.

Now this I 100% agree with. People have been taking many things science has given us. All they care is that they have it and that it works. There could be only one person who understands how the product they love works, and it wouldn't phase them; They wouldn't see it as important that other people understand so this product doesn't just disappear if that one person would have croaked.

Another thing that troubles me is people's ignorance to science. Someone actually told me "There is more and more proof for the Bible and less and less proof for science everyday." Not just Evolution, not just the Big Bang, but SCIENCE. The methodology used to understand the reality around us by observing, testing, and explaining empirical evidence! All of this while typing on a result of science!

This may be a result of poor science education. People don't understand difference between scientific theories that have evidence to support them by means of observation and testing, and the layman's theory where you just pull an idea out of your a**. The latter would mean any "scientist" could come up with a theory and put it in text books.

Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory = Bad Science. Germ Theory, Cell Theory, Atomic Theory, Chromosome Theory of Heredity, etc = Good Science. I don't understand how you can be crazy for denying one accepted theory among scientists(for example Atomic Theory), and be open-minded for denying another(Evolution).

I don't know why, but my generation doesn't seem to think they can trust in the scientific method and believe in their religion at the same time.


Yeah, I agree with all of this.
Just another reason I like being Catholic. We're cool with science, just not cloning and embronic stem cell research.

On that note: never could figure out how to fly a kite. They always crashed & never last more than a second or two above ground...

You mean you are.

I'm Catholic too but I'm on the other side I say go for Stem Cell research to cure terrible illness.

Besides Cloning is tough. We only cloned one successful animal.

Besides I don't see anything wrong with it.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:44 pm


Heir Kaiba
Sakyh
Solus Canis Lupus
Drinky McIrish
Sakyh
The article doesn't say how old these kids are...or what the other questions were.

Look, maybe a 5th grader coulda come up with something better, but if the kid really is are 7, give him a break. I didn't learn about the solar system until 2nd grade (age 8 ). And as for the whole
Quote:
No questions about the majesty of space, or about the gruelling selection process involved in becoming an astronaut, or about the wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space.


This is a child, a little kid! They probably don't know how hard it is to become an astronaut, much less the phrase "gruelling selection process" and I doubt they could process the "wonders of being able to just pick up a telephone and speak to somebody in space." They're kids!! go easy on them!

On that note, in the 2nd grade I did a report on Sally Ride (first female astronaut). If I was in that kid's shoes I think the best thing I woulda come up with was "what's space like?"
Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.

Now this I 100% agree with. People have been taking many things science has given us. All they care is that they have it and that it works. There could be only one person who understands how the product they love works, and it wouldn't phase them; They wouldn't see it as important that other people understand so this product doesn't just disappear if that one person would have croaked.

Another thing that troubles me is people's ignorance to science. Someone actually told me "There is more and more proof for the Bible and less and less proof for science everyday." Not just Evolution, not just the Big Bang, but SCIENCE. The methodology used to understand the reality around us by observing, testing, and explaining empirical evidence! All of this while typing on a result of science!

This may be a result of poor science education. People don't understand difference between scientific theories that have evidence to support them by means of observation and testing, and the layman's theory where you just pull an idea out of your a**. The latter would mean any "scientist" could come up with a theory and put it in text books.

Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory = Bad Science. Germ Theory, Cell Theory, Atomic Theory, Chromosome Theory of Heredity, etc = Good Science. I don't understand how you can be crazy for denying one accepted theory among scientists(for example Atomic Theory), and be open-minded for denying another(Evolution).

I don't know why, but my generation doesn't seem to think they can trust in the scientific method and believe in their religion at the same time.


Yeah, I agree with all of this.
Just another reason I like being Catholic. We're cool with science, just not cloning and embronic stem cell research.

On that note: never could figure out how to fly a kite. They always crashed & never last more than a second or two above ground...

You mean you are.

I'm Catholic too but I'm on the other side I say go for Stem Cell research to cure terrible illness.

Besides Cloning is tough. We only cloned one successful animal.

Besides I don't see anything wrong with it.


No I mean we as in The Catholic Church.

Sakyh
Crew


Heir Kaiba
Crew

O.G. Gaian

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:44 pm


Sakyh
Solus Canis Lupus
Sakyh
Solus Canis Lupus
Drinky McIrish
Look, it's not jus this kid, he is simply just a representation of our current society as a whole...

They don't seem to know/care/respect the hard work that has allowed them to live the life they live...

My cousins kids are prime examples, I decided it would be cool to break out my old Stratigo board game last time I baby sat them, teach them how to play and then let them play on their own, for this was an old favorite of mine. They would have nothing of it, it wasn't electronic. Then they turn around and ask if I have Call of Duty for the Xbox.

I have been making an intentional point, both upon my own experiences with these kids, and upon the requests of their mother (my cousin) to try to get them going with things that are not video game related because their ******** father pretty much lets the 360 raise them. I'm making headway, but when you need to pull a kid away from the house in order to even show him how to fly a kite there is something wrong.

It's not just kids either, it doesn't seem like even some adults that shop at my store truly appreciate the amount of work that goes into things. It's depressing how often I hear "If it breaks, I'll just buy a new one" from a customer when I offer our service plans... Even on $1500+ computers...

What do I think is going on? I think our era lacks any form of romanticism. One of my heroes is Howard Hughes, who was a pioneer in many industries. I look back at his height and I see that aviation and film making had a romantic appeal about it. I don't mean like kissy kissy romance, I mean that a whole new aspect of society has a appeal that intrigues people intellectually...

Now I can understand why flying planes has lost its romanticism, anyone can learn to fly these days. However space travel, and many other things like science should still have this appeal, and yet it doesn't.

We've simply become too obsessed with instant gratification, and this troubles me deep inside when I think about it...

I don't care if kids act like kids, what bothers me most about that article is that everything seemed lost to him... All he could think about when meeting the most powerful man in the world and a dude who was sitting in one of the most amazing building projects ever were video games.

That's what deeply bothers me about all this. Sorry for the rant.

Now this I 100% agree with. People have been taking many things science has given us. All they care is that they have it and that it works. There could be only one person who understands how the product they love works, and it wouldn't phase them; They wouldn't see it as important that other people understand so this product doesn't just disappear if that one person would have croaked.

Another thing that troubles me is people's ignorance to science. Someone actually told me "There is more and more proof for the Bible and less and less proof for science everyday." Not just Evolution, not just the Big Bang, but SCIENCE. The methodology used to understand the reality around us by observing, testing, and explaining empirical evidence! All of this while typing on a result of science!

This may be a result of poor science education. People don't understand difference between scientific theories that have evidence to support them by means of observation and testing, and the layman's theory where you just pull an idea out of your a**. The latter would mean any "scientist" could come up with a theory and put it in text books.

Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory = Bad Science. Germ Theory, Cell Theory, Atomic Theory, Chromosome Theory of Heredity, etc = Good Science. I don't understand how you can be crazy for denying one accepted theory among scientists(for example Atomic Theory), and be open-minded for denying another(Evolution).

I don't know why, but my generation doesn't seem to think they can trust in the scientific method and believe in their religion at the same time.


Yeah, I agree with all of this.
Just another reason I like being Catholic. We're cool with science, just not cloning and embronic stem cell research.

On that note: never could figure out how to fly a kite. They always crashed & never last more than a second or two above ground...

Well cloning doesn't necessarily have to be a whole body. Cloning individual organs is being looked into, and that would eliminate the need to look for someone with the same blood type and tissue for organ transplants as well as drastically reduce the chance of the body rejecting the organ; Nothing like an organ made of cells with your DNA, huh?

But yeah, I understand where you're coming from. I mean the Pope has even acknowledged that evolution could be possible. Methodists I notice tend to be open-minded too. A lot of my friends are at least.


My Student Catholic Bible even says that evolution helps proves God's existance more than it doesn't.

That's odd my Bible School told us that Evolution only proves that humans came from Monkeys therefore we are Monkeys.

It was in Spanish and of course I think she knew better...
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