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Ebony Shade

Romantic Seeker

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:28 pm


Nikiana has already got you going in the right direction on your concepts. Just thought I'd help by stating that essences are normally things that are contradicting, as in they are not acting as they should. Like shadows that exist without a caster or fire that continues burning even though it's trapped in a vile with no access to oxygen to keep it going.

But there are other essences that just exist and normally wouldn't at all and could be considered metaphorical in a sense. Like Mouse's Cloud of Despair or the Visual Fairytale essences. I hope this helps you in fine tuning your essences.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:44 pm


*nods* That does! I was looking at the other Fel essences and guess I just didn't get quite a good enough grasp on what they are. I will work on that, though, and hopefully get the essences updated soon. Thank you for taking the time to take a look, Ebony, and to post your suggestions, I really appreciate it! ^^

lanimari


Nikiana

Sparkly Hoarder

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:14 pm


Yeah, I know the coyote and wolf are different, just giving you a heads up, since they are similar in ways.

*is with you on the torturing = amusing stuff* I do mean things to my characters a lot... XD

And, hey, I'll check in here from time to time to see if you've updated stuffs.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:45 pm


*nods* Thank you. ^^

xD I'm glad I'm not the only one, then!

Thank you, I'd really like that - helpful criticism and tidbits are always welcome. ^^

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Updates
*Changed Voiceless Wind to Voiceless Gale and adjusted its description to suit. Will elaborate on that more later, when its not about time for me to go to bed. xD

*Removed Still Water from Fel Essence list.

*Adjusted the description for Cold Steam, as per suggestions. Will elaborate more on it later, when its not bedtime.

*Added Unwavering Sand essence idea. Ravina came up with the name, I came up with the description.

*Added a question in regards to a possible 'bleeding stone' or 'crying stone' fel essence concept to the Fel Essence post.

lanimari


X Purple--Platypus X

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:01 am


Fel Essence Questions

Would a Bleeding Stone or Crying Stone be permitted? I realize that there is a stone in real life that when you grind at it and your sweat mixes with it, it will look as though your hands are bleeding, but what about a stone that actually...excretes a liquid as if it were alive? Or is that not considered an essence? (Sorry if that's a bad question, I'm new to this and just trying to figure everything out. <3)
Yes, I personally see no problem with a bleeding stone, in fact I think it's quite interesting. Although some body type fell essences are frowned upon.. Best person to ask would be Mouse. |:

Is Unburning Fire a permitted Essence, depending on how its written, or would that be considered too close to anything currently at Lab 305?
I'm sure it qualifies as a fel essence.. But there are already quite a lot of fire based essences in existence and in the mini semi-custom contest recently contestants were advised against using fire or ice essences. >__>
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:58 am


Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions, Platy. I will have to direct my question to Mouse, then, to be sure.

*nods* If there's a ton of those already and people were told not to use it, then I'll scratch it from the list. Thank you! ^^ <33

lanimari


X Purple--Platypus X

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:22 am


Concept
The Raeven


Idea o1
Fel Essence: Voiceless Gale
I'm really quite fond of this idea. A storm that doesn't make any noise, it's certainly interesting. However, a word of warning. Tsu already owns a raevan created from a fel essence of a storm; eye of the storm. (you can check out the full description in the gallery) So make sure you keep the visual idea different to Tsu's... Your actual concept is different enough to be allowed (imo, other's may protest) and although similar there are other concepts that are also similar to another that have been allowed, for example Mouse's cloud of dispair and Tooaya's pieces of cloud.
Soul: Coyote
Ah~ I like this soul. I think not only should it have quite interesting design elements but it fits pleasantly with your fel essence.. My only concern has already been mentioned as they could be perceived too close to the already quested Wolf... >__>
Name: Anoki
Gender: Male
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Personality: Being without a voice, Anoki has gathered quite the talent for being an animated conversationalist. Often the boy will act out what he wants to say, rather than just using sign language as he was taught after discovering that he was a mute. He tends to be a bit rough on others, simply because of his own disability and his displeasure at having it. Therefore he is prone to behave in an angry or hurtful manner when he feels that he'd being patronized, lead on, or otherwise teased or berated. More often than not, though, he is a very active and friendly guy that enjoys just 'hanging out' or playing tricks on people. Given that he does have no voice, he can sneak up on people easily, so long as he remembers to step quietly as he doesn't have a problem with accidental snickering at the amusement of sneaking up on someone. This is, therefore, one of his favorite things to do to people.
I'm quite interested to see who you pull this off, you've got to be a pretty good writer to be able to convey intricate body language. But I'm sure if you're confident you'll do fine. :B
Unfortunately for his guardian, Anoki also has the tendency to hold grudges against people for long periods of time. This can make him slightly unbearable at times, but once you get to know him and he trusts you well, you'll see a completely different side of him that is full of grins and pats on the back (and the occasional impromptu hug).
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:32 pm


Voiceless Gale - I'll have to look at eye of the storm later, it gave me a broken link message. sweatdrop

I'm hoping, though, that since Voiceless Gale is a silent, but very strong wind it won't conflict with any current essences. A gale can exist without the fury of the storm, so I will definitely have to work on wording that visual idea so that it will work out. (There have been known to be 80mph winds at random on the cliffs on the drive to Anchorage from Fairbanks, which was kind of where I got the idea from. Definitely need to work on fleshing out my concepts more, though.)

Coyote - *nods* I'm hoping it won't be seen as too close...if it is, though, I will find another animal to work with. One that hopefully hasn't already been done. 3nodding There's another very vocal dog, its an Egyptian one, I can't recall its name, though. It howls and yips rather than barks. sweatdrop

I hope if I do this concept I do well with him not having a voice. I've RPed as a wolf before, and had people amused that he "talked" without talking. So I think with some practice I could do well with it.

*goes to work fleshing things out*

lanimari


lanimari

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:28 pm


Updated

Tweaked the three Fel Essences I already had some more, changed Cold Steam to Wandering Steam. Also added a new Fel Essence of Rippled Stone. (May change that to Undulating Stone...)

Will work on the actual Raeven concepts some tomorrow if I have time. ^^
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:22 pm


Voiceless Gale - It works well enough, but doesn't interest me too much. >u>; Sorry.

Wandering Steam - Oooh, this one's nifty. A combination with the right soul would help bring it out more, I think. c:

Unwavering Sand - Okay, I just LOVE this one. @3@ I can safely say this is the one I like most out of your ideas - it's both simple and very interesting, and sounds like it would be a lot of fun to play with.

Rippled Stone - This is neat, but not my favorite one? ouo I mean, it works, but it doesn't grab my attention too much.


Quote:
Would a Bleeding Stone or Crying Stone be permitted? I realize that there is a stone in real life that when you grind at it and your sweat mixes with it, it will look as though your hands are bleeding, but what about a stone that actually...excretes a liquid as if it were alive? Or is that not considered an essence? (Sorry if that's a bad question, I'm new to this and just trying to figure everything out. <3)

Kyou is the final authority on this, but I think this would be a pretty neat idea. O___O Go for it!


Okay, so you got some really good ideas up so far. I personally like the coyote soul, but that's because I associate it with Coyote from Navajo folklore and that would just give the Raevan one hell of a personality! XD The stargazer lily is lovely, too - it would definitely be a wonderful addition to our small collection of Raevans with plant souls.

cibarium

Noob


lanimari

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:02 pm


Voiceless Gale - *laughs* That's all right, its not really my favorite, either. Except for pairing up with the Coyote, but that's really just for amusement more than anything else. sweatdrop I'll have to see if I can't make it more interesting, if not, I'll probably drop it from the essences list. <3 Thank you! ^^

Wandering Steam - *nods* I'm still debating on either coyote or lily to pair it up with, but I'm still not sure how it'd work out with either of them. sweatdrop

Unwavering Sand - Yay! I'm glad you like this one, its taken me a while to get it so that I like it. ^^ Still not sure what soul it would work best paired up with, either...

Rippled Stone - *nods* I'll have to see if I can't make it more attention-grabbing, then. ^_^

Crying or Bleeding Stone - *nods* I'll have to work it out as a Fel Essence, then. ^^ Thank you! <3

*nods* I associate the Coyote with folklore, as well. My Uncle used to send me books on native folklore so that I would pay attention to that small part of my heritage, and that's where the idea for the Coyote soul came from. 3nodding (Its also because I happen to have somehow earned the nickname Little Coyote from some native friends of mine. xD;; )

Stargazer Lily - Its my favorite flower, so I'm glad you think it'd make a good addition. ^^ I just need to figure out what essence to pair it with to really make it an outstanding idea and not just there to look pretty. xD 3nodding

Thank you for the feedback, Mouse, I really appreciate it and will definitely work to improve on some things. ^^
PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:39 am


Finally, some updates have happened!

This Fel Essence has been added:
Crying Stone - Stones are solid things that neither bleed nor cry, yet there is one stone that has been found to excrete salty liquid reminiscent of tears. To the touch it is both solid and sure in your hand, but when pressure is applied, the stone begins to 'cry', leaving your hand went with a slight sheen of liquid. The more pressure applied to the stone, the more liquid it excretes. In rare moments, it has also been found that the stone will 'cry' when around someone who is especially sad, or something bad has/will soon happen. The emotion surrounding that, however, must be especially strong before the stone will excrete anything. Reasons for this peculiarity have not yet been found.

Fiach's profile has been updated and more or less completed.
A new Raeven idea has also been added, though its bare bones stuff just like the first idea. sweatdrop


lanimari


lanimari

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:10 am


Been ages since I did any updates...but I'm getting back to work on this quest now. 3nodding

Removed:
-Voiceless Gale & Rippled Stone from the Fel Essences List.
-Anoki's personality, am re-working it to be more suitable to his new combination of Unwavering Sand/Coyote.

Added:
+ 3 new Raeven ideas.
> Crying Stone/Fire Opal
> Wandering Steam/Stargazer Lily
> Unwavering Sand/Fire Opal

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:56 pm


Finally settled on a guardian and posted a roleplay sample with him. Also working on tidying up and finalizing the quest thread for crit. c:

lanimari


Tnau

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:32 am


Soul Ideas

I don't know why but I feel like someone has questing a similar animal o.O I'd have to check, but hey if it's available keep it up! I know I told you I loved the stargazer lily idea. I'd a really pretty flor and I like it -alot-. I don't think your fire opals are a really good soul idea, they're kind of boring as souls and I'm not even sure you can use them because they don't have souls? But you'd have to check that.

Fel Essences

Your wandering steam and unwavering sand sound kind of boring, there's nothing really special about them. Your crying stone on the other hand has potential. I thought at first it was a sponge, but then I read the end of the description and found it really neat smile

Guardian

Your guardian seems to be fine, except I think his personality might be too long. In sales they have to be 250 words so you might want to check in with that smile I see you don't have his history written down either, there's also a word limit for that in sales so yea, check those up. But I like him, he sounds interesting and unique biggrin
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