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Bromisto

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:04 am


This is difficult to say. For example, you cannot be "you are what you do" Because a person could have a good heart but not make right decisions. Or make a desision in the correct way. Even though they had good intentions. But if you say that "You do what you are" is generalizing that you are born good or you are born evil. So which is it? Or maybe we are born as clay and we are molded into what we are as we grow.

Which raises more questions.

Does our environment effect us on what we become? Does religion effect us? What about society?

Possibly.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:26 am


Bromisto
This is difficult to say. For example, you cannot be "you are what you do" Because a person could have a good heart but not make right decisions. Or make a desision in the correct way. Even though they had good intentions. But if you say that "You do what you are" is generalizing that you are born good or you are born evil. So which is it? Or maybe we are born as clay and we are molded into what we are as we grow.

Which raises more questions.

Does our environment effect us on what we become? Does religion effect us? What about society?

Possibly.


I say yes, in almost every aspect of who we is determined by how we are raised and the effects that surround us.

Socrates in Disguise
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Invictus_88

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:38 am


Socrates in Disguise
I say yes, in almost every aspect of who we is determined by how we are raised and the effects that surround us.


Self-fulfilling prophesy.

Boy lives in run-down Indian slum born of a drug-addict abusive mother and a father who steals partly to support the family but mostly to keep himself drunk.

a) Boy ends up as a drug-addict and a mugger. Killing people so he can afford his next fix. But hey, it was inevitable. Bad breeds bad.

b) Boy is repulsed by it all and is driven by his surroundings into the spiritual safe-ground of the pristhood where he devotes himself to helping children escape the dangers of slum-life.

Well; my, that looks jolly difficult to disprove. But that doesn't stop it being groundless.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:18 am


Invictus_88
Socrates in Disguise
I say yes, in almost every aspect of who we is determined by how we are raised and the effects that surround us.


Self-fulfilling prophesy.

Boy lives in run-down Indian slum born of a drug-addict abusive mother and a father who steals partly to support the family but mostly to keep himself drunk.

a) Boy ends up as a drug-addict and a mugger. Killing people so he can afford his next fix. But hey, it was inevitable. Bad breeds bad.

b) Boy is repulsed by it all and is driven by his surroundings into the spiritual safe-ground of the pristhood where he devotes himself to helping children escape the dangers of slum-life.

Well; my, that looks jolly difficult to disprove. But that doesn't stop it being groundless.

You have an excellent point so I will withdrawl my previous statement. While in some cases that "the apple doesnt fall far from the tree" is true, man is also stubborn in creating his own path rather then following the wretched one of those that concieved us. Can you accept that reality Invictus?

Socrates in Disguise
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Invictus_88

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:48 pm


Socrates in Disguise
Invictus_88
Socrates in Disguise
I say yes, in almost every aspect of who we is determined by how we are raised and the effects that surround us.


Self-fulfilling prophesy.

Boy lives in run-down Indian slum born of a drug-addict abusive mother and a father who steals partly to support the family but mostly to keep himself drunk.

a) Boy ends up as a drug-addict and a mugger. Killing people so he can afford his next fix. But hey, it was inevitable. Bad breeds bad.

b) Boy is repulsed by it all and is driven by his surroundings into the spiritual safe-ground of the pristhood where he devotes himself to helping children escape the dangers of slum-life.

Well; my, that looks jolly difficult to disprove. But that doesn't stop it being groundless.

You have an excellent point so I will withdrawl my previous statement. While in some cases that "the apple doesnt fall far from the tree" is true, man is also stubborn in creating his own path rather then following the wretched one of those that concieved us. Can you accept that reality Invictus?


Oh certianly, it's a truism really..
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