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Grim Weeper Vi

Phantom

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:05 pm


shouldnt trust turtles at all
they rip things apart @_@ we have a red eared slider
destructive little gal XD

yeah it is small compared to the other fish
and i mean slow down till you can provide them with bigger homes. the 80 gallon would actually be better for the knife fish and the other big fish should have a few hundred gallons

you should really try to formulate communities that will work the best for the whole time...shouldnt get anything that will be too small with the other fish so they become food. try not to mismatch ya know?

then what are you gonna do with the smaller fish? sounds like it would end up being expensive...buying more tanks to upgrade or hold more fish
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:33 pm


naaaaaaah
just one more and it will be 250
and i dont have to buy fish that will match
the more fish i raise the more experience i get
raise a knife and bring it back to be sold to someone that doesnt want to do the raising part
i could get 5 fish and raise them till they are grown and take care of them till they die or i can raise 50 make some money out of it and find out all kinds of info
raising fish is fun to me some people like looking but i dont just wanna look i wanna raise
its wierd but these are my kids for now
and the turtle is red ear ahhhhh
tiny little thing though only an inch right now and isnt eating....makes me sad
i hope it doesnt die sad

WhiteJared


gonebananas07

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:32 am


Um I saw an arowana at the zoo once. It was a huge tank and the fish looked quite happy but a 20 gallon surprised
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:47 pm


oh really?
wat country do you live in?

WhiteJared


Grim Weeper Vi

Phantom

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:19 am


what does it matter what country? i live in the US and i have seen arowanas in zoos and aquariums. they are HUGE fish and should be cared for properly (and probably zoos and aquariums are the only places that can properly care for them with the HUGE tanks they have)

i think i am done posting here...i hope your fish find good homes when you sell em...i feel a little sad that you would would sell your fish back after caring for them...you should also get the RIGHT kind of experience...sure raising many fish will give you general fish experience (feeding, water change ect) but it wont give you the right experience as far as bio types, matching up fish temperaments, size, feeding habits ect.

That fish max size is 4 feet if you take proper care of it. Any smaller measuremts for aquariums is because regular home aquariums are never as good as the wild.That fish needs room to swim and a few hundred gallons won't cut it not even 700 gallons is big enough.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:26 pm


Happy Skittles Lizzy
oh but do you know nothing of puffers XD they are SO AMUSING and cute! they could never be boring. heart and some fish NEED to be in species tanks or else it just gets crazy @_@

i like themes. my big tank (55g) is labyrinth fish (mostly betta...about 10 females and 1 male...and one random wild type betta that i THINK is betta falx...the pet shop people didnt even know they had it XD)
the two biggest fish are a pair of pearl gourami
and then i have a pair of honey gourami and a pair of killifish and a chocolate gourami which isnt doing to hot (hardest gourami to care for) and i think only one kuhlli loach now

not to mention the 8 males in separate tanks
and now my puffers (once i set the tank up which i should do now XD )


Off topic here, but even in a tank that large, it isnt good to mix genders and wilds together, and most bettas don't get along to well with other labyrinth fish. and in a 55 its overstocked, the pearls should have their own 35-55g. Just my 2 cents,I've been in the hobby for quite some time...

MYlittleADDICT


MYlittleADDICT

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:36 pm


WhiteJared
naaaaaaah
just one more and it will be 250
and i dont have to buy fish that will match
the more fish i raise the more experience i get
raise a knife and bring it back to be sold to someone that doesnt want to do the raising part
i could get 5 fish and raise them till they are grown and take care of them till they die or i can raise 50 make some money out of it and find out all kinds of info
raising fish is fun to me some people like looking but i dont just wanna look i wanna raise
its wierd but these are my kids for now
and the turtle is red ear ahhhhh
tiny little thing though only an inch right now and isnt eating....makes me sad
i hope it doesnt die sad


wow, ok, most people buy/breed fish because they enjoy having them around and raising them and caring for them all their lives. Unless your an actual breeder or supplier, I don't thing raising and selling is a good idea, especially mixing Flowerhorns with ANYTHING. They're cute and pretty, yes but aggressive as hell and they get huge, along with the Arowana. and that RES, is probably not going to make it, most people who get them on a whim aren't successful at raising them from that small, and they need a lot of care even when the get big, that's why I won't venture into the aquatic turtle hobby, I'll stick to fish... But seriously.. You need to thing before you buy things like that. I want a Flowerhorn, yes, but my 55g isn't any where near big enough for one to live and grow in so I'm WAITING, tell I get a larger tank, not just going " Well its small now, so ill move it when it gets bigger. " well my friend, there are these things called STUNTING and ORGAN COMPACTION that make most educated fish enthusiasts wait, and put the fishes health and welfare first. This happens during the fishes gowning proses when it's small, and in turn it will not grow to its potential size and just give it an over all unhealthy life.. Fun huh?? yeah its happening to your fish at this very moment.

my suggestion?? upgrade.. now.
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 9:40 am


SpookyMushroom
Happy Skittles Lizzy
oh but do you know nothing of puffers XD they are SO AMUSING and cute! they could never be boring. heart and some fish NEED to be in species tanks or else it just gets crazy @_@

i like themes. my big tank (55g) is labyrinth fish (mostly betta...about 10 females and 1 male...and one random wild type betta that i THINK is betta falx...the pet shop people didnt even know they had it XD)
the two biggest fish are a pair of pearl gourami
and then i have a pair of honey gourami and a pair of killifish and a chocolate gourami which isnt doing to hot (hardest gourami to care for) and i think only one kuhlli loach now

not to mention the 8 males in separate tanks
and now my puffers (once i set the tank up which i should do now XD )


Off topic here, but even in a tank that large, it isnt good to mix genders and wilds together, and most bettas don't get along to well with other labyrinth fish. and in a 55 its overstocked, the pearls should have their own 35-55g. Just my 2 cents,I've been in the hobby for quite some time...


and so have i. i have been keeping specifically betta for over 5 years and have had my current set up for over 9 months. i also am keeping a reef tank with much success.
and they are all perfectly fine my fish. no parameter problems (0 ammonia nitrites and nitrates) and no aggression problems. all are healthy and growing and even exhibiting breeding behavior all the time. fish dont breed if they arent happy and healthy.

the one inch of fish per gallon rule is a myth. you look at bioload.

Grim Weeper Vi

Phantom


MYlittleADDICT

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:10 pm


Finally some one who doesn't look at me like a retard when I say inch per gallon is bs, however, I wasn't going by inch per gallon, I was going by swimming room and territory room, I'm sure you know already that most anabantoids are usually pretty territorial and I think a 55 may be to small for all that you have to have comfortable territories.

And breeding behavior means nothing, if they can mass produce bettas on farms, with minimal care and improper husbandry, and throw them at chain pet stores a mile a second. care quality means nothing when producing animals.

I'm not trying to start drama, I'm just saying that, yeah, its doing fine now, but things will eventually go down hill..

I've been keeping fish for a little over 7 years and I specialize in bettas, wilds and splendens.
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:56 pm


To the OP: You're gonna need a heck of a lot bigger tank for that arowana. Well, more like a pool. They get big. Same with the flowerhorn. Either stop buying more fish, or get some bigger tanks set up. Ideally, do both.

To the one with the 55g anabantoid tank, you're setting yourself up for disaster with taht male in there.

RosenKrieger223


MYlittleADDICT

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:59 pm


RosenKrieger223
To the OP: You're gonna need a heck of a lot bigger tank for that arowana. Well, more like a pool. They get big. Same with the flowerhorn. Either stop buying more fish, or get some bigger tanks set up. Ideally, do both.

To the one with the 55g anabantoid tank, you're setting yourself up for disaster with taht male in there.


not only just a male, but also a random wild mixed with splendens too..
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:32 pm


@ the OP, I agree with everyone, you need a larger tank. Technically you can keep the arrowana in what you have it in right now, but later you'll need something larger. What if 10 years from now you don't HAVE the money/space to keep it. What then? Always buy the tank it will need as an adult first when you have the chance, otherwise, don't get the fish.

@Happy Skittles Lizzy, you say your 55 is all bettas? What kind of bettas? Betta Splendens? I hope not. D: I've seen a few betta tanks with males/females mixed together and none work out in the long run. Why are you trying to keep them together anyway? It's against their nature. Your tank will go downhill, they will kill each other eventually. It may not happen tomorrow, it may not happen a year from now, but it will happen. Some b. splendens are more mellow than others, true, but that doesn't mean they can be housed together like that. (with the exception of sorority tanks.) Do you have any pics of the suspected wild betta? I'd like to see it, if I saw it I could identify it for you. You seem to know a pretty good deal about fish, and it disappoints me that you'd have a tank set-up like this.

Vicky Chai Tea


MYlittleADDICT

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:40 pm


Vic, it isn't all bettas, she has gouramis and some killies too I believe.
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:43 pm


@ Spooky

Oh gosh. D: I was so peeved about the bettas, I forgot about that. Gouramis aren't compatable with bettas by any means, they're both territorial fish. You should know that.

Vicky Chai Tea


Grim Weeper Vi

Phantom

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:46 am


i have been keeping tanks like this for YEARS

female betta splendens with one male splenden
the wild female is a falx betta she gets along fine with everyone else.
the honey gourami do their own thing and the pearls do their own thing and the killis do their own thing

i have never seen a missing scale or ripped fins and if you ever see pics from me with a betta that LOOKS like it has ripped fins its a female crowntail

the betta and gourami pay NO ATTENTION to each other at ALL
AND the betta do not fight ever. and i mean they NEVER fight. no lip locking or anything. the only one who ever does anything is the male betta and all he does is like a 2 second flare up at a female when she is close by. thi tank has been set up like this for a LONG time and some of the betta i have have been together for years. betta and gourami are no where as mean as people think they are...they got this bad reputation that i have NEVER seen... i have NEVER seen the aggression i hear others tell me about when keeping a betta with anything.

they all eat they are all healthy they even sleep in little huddles together at night. and they are not babies or anything that might behave like this for protection. they are all adults.

maybe the betta i find are just much more peaceful than what everyone else seems to find

i have been keeping specifically betta for a little longer than 7 years in community tanks like that (and keeping fish in general for WAY longer than that)...its the only kind of freshwater tank i like and i wouldnt keep getting larger tanks and setting them up the same way if they didnt work. and no i dont get larger tanks because of aggression issues. i get larger tanks because i would like to have some more and you cant really fit a whole lot of fish in a 10 gallon tank.
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