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 Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:34 pm
AriaStarSong Perhaps you could post a picture of this ideal Paint horse, so that those of us who are seeing him as short-backed and straight-legged could more easily compare the two? The APH should have stock type conformation, with a broad chest and well muscled hindquarters. PH's should be strong-boned, but should also possess refinement in the head and neck. Do you realize that this horse is still growing? Most horses do look awkward when they are young. 
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:59 pm
Everybody has said b/c he's YOUNG its hard to tell. READ the other posts
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:26 pm
Sotoria Everybody has said b/c he's YOUNG its hard to tell. READ the other posts
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:10 pm
Roll your eyes all you want you know Im right, however most of the time young studs sont grow as fast as a gelding and alot of things (like long pasterns) He can't just "grow out of"
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:59 pm
Sotoria Roll your eyes all you want you know Im right, however most of the time young studs sont grow as fast as a gelding and alot of things (like long pasterns) He can't just "grow out of" An ideal pastern slopes at a 45 degree angle in the front leg, 50-55 degree angle in the back leg. Long, sloping pasterns are more than 3/4 the length of the cannon bone... Short, upright pasterns are less than 1/2 the length of the cannon bone... Figure 2A. Correct, good bone. Figure 2B. Pastern too straight. Figure 2C. Pastern too long and flat, angle different than foot, "coon-footed." Figure 2D. Calf-kneed, short, straight pastern. Figure 2E. Buck-kneed or over on the knee. Figure 2F. "Tied in" or fine bone below the knee. The horses pasterns are anything but long.
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:52 pm
I think he's pretty cute. I'd like to see him again in a few years when he's more mature and filled out. The big negative things I can say about him are his short neck (which will probably always be the case, thats a very typical stock horse neck), longish front pasterns (I'd rather see steeper pasterns on a young horse, those tend to flatten out more), his steep and short hind end, and he has a bit of a ewe neck. He could grow into/out of all these things, though i think its unlikely that his neck and haunches will improve much. He sure has nice coloring though. I'd say he's lacking in muscle now as a 2 year old if he has halter lines, but i dont know many lines by names, so i dont know.
He can only be registered APHA. He can't be AQHA or JC because he is a paint. QHs can breed into (as in, registered as breeding stock for) paint, QH, and ApHA, because QH is the base/a similar type to those breeds. TB can go into paint and QH too, but not the other way around. You can't have a pinto QH, because thats esentially what the APHA registy was created for, QHs of color. It's a one way street.
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:50 am
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:12 am
Brat_and_a_half I think he's pretty cute. I'd like to see him again in a few years when he's more mature and filled out. The big negative things I can say about him are his short neck (which will probably always be the case, thats a very typical stock horse neck), longish front pasterns (I'd rather see steeper pasterns on a young horse, those tend to flatten out more), his steep and short hind end, and he has a bit of a ewe neck. He could grow into/out of all these things, though i think its unlikely that his neck and haunches will improve much. He sure has nice coloring though. I'd say he's lacking in muscle now as a 2 year old if he has halter lines, but i dont know many lines by names, so i dont know. He can only be registered APHA. He can't be AQHA or JC because he is a paint. QHs can breed into (as in, registered as breeding stock for) paint, QH, and ApHA, because QH is the base/a similar type to those breeds. TB can go into paint and QH too, but not the other way around. You can't have a pinto QH, because thats esentially what the APHA registy was created for, QHs of color. It's a one way street. "You can't have a pinto QH, because thats esentially what the APHA registy was created for, QHs of color. It's a one way street." He can be duel registered in APHA and AQHA. "A good horse is a good horse, regardless of its color. And while color can be a major asset, a lack of color does not limit your opportunity for success with the American Paint Horse Association (APHA). Not all foals will have flashy color patterns, but APHA’s wide array of programs are open to all APHA-registered horses." This was taken off the APHA website, it says a similar thing in the AQHA website. So basically a solid horse can be registered in the APHA, and a paint horse can be registered in the AQHA.
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:16 pm
I like spoted horses because they have shapes on them. Like this one has Australia on his arm.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:59 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:53 pm
Figure 2B. Pastern too straight. Figure 2C. Pastern too long and flat, angle different than foot, "coon-footed." Figure 2D. Calf-kneed, short, straight pastern. Figure 2E. Buck-kneed or over on the knee. Figure 2F. "Tied in" or fine bone below the knee. If you think that horse has pasterns like the one seen in C then I would question your vision.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:41 pm
They still look long to me. Not as long as C, maybe, but longer than A. They're also not dropped as much as C, but he's still young, so that could happen with time. I knew a mare whose pasterns had fallen so far that they were almost horizontal. I highly doubt she was born like that.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:43 pm
OMG I want to strangle you. I said kinda NOT IS! And look at the angle, theres a chance they'll grow flatter if not up.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:18 pm
Sotoria OMG I want to strangle you. I said kinda NOT IS! And look at the angle, theres a chance they'll grow flatter if not up. Haha wow. "They still look long" I don't see a "kinda" in that sentance. Gunther's still look the same as when he was a baby just every part of him is bigger now.
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