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MegaTherion777

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:47 pm


ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL swedish black metal. talk2hand
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:40 am


MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL swedish black metal. talk2hand

Even Bathory?

Gravechylde
Vice Captain


My Hollow
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:45 am


Gravechylde
MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL swedish black metal. talk2hand

Even Bathory?

He loves Bathory, FLAW!

I, on the other hand, am ashamed that viking metal came from this band.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:30 pm


Gravechylde
MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL swedish black metal. talk2hand

Even Bathory?
bathory is the exception that proves the rule.

also, most elitists argue that 1st wave != true BM. i was referring exclusively to 2nd and 3rd wave bands

MegaTherion777


kacisko
Crew

Demonic Raider

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:27 pm


Ah yes.... Bathory is the one band I'm ashamed of. Disliking religion is one thing. But screaming "you know what Jesus" is totally unacceptable. And that's what they did in at least one concert. Heard it on radio (how they aired that in a Polish radio station is a different story).
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:42 pm


kacisko
Ah yes.... Bathory is the one band I'm ashamed of. Disliking religion is one thing. But screaming "you know what Jesus" is totally unacceptable. And that's what they did in at least one concert. Heard it on radio (how they aired that in a Polish radio station is a different story).
how DID they air that on a polish radio station? i mean they banned gorgoroth from the country for simply having people "crucified" on stage, and that's hardly as blasphemous.

MegaTherion777


kacisko
Crew

Demonic Raider

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:44 pm


MegaTherion777
kacisko
Ah yes.... Bathory is the one band I'm ashamed of. Disliking religion is one thing. But screaming "you know what Jesus" is totally unacceptable. And that's what they did in at least one concert. Heard it on radio (how they aired that in a Polish radio station is a different story).
how DID they air that on a polish radio station? i mean they banned gorgoroth from the country for simply having people "crucified" on stage, and that's hardly as blasphemous.
Don't ask me. It's a strange country.

Anyway, with the Gorgoth it was the problem of camera men getting offended by the situation and filing a report. They were recording the gig. If my mind doesn't fail me, that is.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:21 pm


kacisko
MegaTherion777
kacisko
Ah yes.... Bathory is the one band I'm ashamed of. Disliking religion is one thing. But screaming "you know what Jesus" is totally unacceptable. And that's what they did in at least one concert. Heard it on radio (how they aired that in a Polish radio station is a different story).
how DID they air that on a polish radio station? i mean they banned gorgoroth from the country for simply having people "crucified" on stage, and that's hardly as blasphemous.
Don't ask me. It's a strange country.

Anyway, with the Gorgoth it was the problem of camera men getting offended by the situation and filing a report. They were recording the gig. If my mind doesn't fail me, that is.
yeah, i just was pointing out how gorgoroth got banned for something that was debatably less blasphemous than what bathory said, so i'm surprised the bathory thing didn't get them in trouble or something

MegaTherion777


kacisko
Crew

Demonic Raider

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:24 pm


MegaTherion777
kacisko
MegaTherion777
kacisko
Ah yes.... Bathory is the one band I'm ashamed of. Disliking religion is one thing. But screaming "you know what Jesus" is totally unacceptable. And that's what they did in at least one concert. Heard it on radio (how they aired that in a Polish radio station is a different story).
how DID they air that on a polish radio station? i mean they banned gorgoroth from the country for simply having people "crucified" on stage, and that's hardly as blasphemous.
Don't ask me. It's a strange country.

Anyway, with the Gorgoth it was the problem of camera men getting offended by the situation and filing a report. They were recording the gig. If my mind doesn't fail me, that is.
yeah, i just was pointing out how gorgoroth got banned for something that was debatably less blasphemous than what bathory said, so i'm surprised the bathory thing didn't get them in trouble or something
As far as I udnerstood the Bathory gig was not in Poland. It was just some recording they aired in the radio station.

And with Gorgoth... well... should they crucify a dressed man - it would be all fine. But if I'm not mistaken these were naked chicks.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:32 pm


kacisko
MegaTherion777
kacisko
MegaTherion777
kacisko
Ah yes.... Bathory is the one band I'm ashamed of. Disliking religion is one thing. But screaming "you know what Jesus" is totally unacceptable. And that's what they did in at least one concert. Heard it on radio (how they aired that in a Polish radio station is a different story).
how DID they air that on a polish radio station? i mean they banned gorgoroth from the country for simply having people "crucified" on stage, and that's hardly as blasphemous.
Don't ask me. It's a strange country.

Anyway, with the Gorgoth it was the problem of camera men getting offended by the situation and filing a report. They were recording the gig. If my mind doesn't fail me, that is.
yeah, i just was pointing out how gorgoroth got banned for something that was debatably less blasphemous than what bathory said, so i'm surprised the bathory thing didn't get them in trouble or something
As far as I udnerstood the Bathory gig was not in Poland. It was just some recording they aired in the radio station.

And with Gorgoth... well... should they crucify a dressed man - it would be all fine. But if I'm not mistaken these were naked chicks.


ah, i see. still, it's surprising it got played.

with gorgoroth, there were an equal number of nude guys as chicks. it wasnt some sexual thing, but you're probably right the problem was with the nudity.

MegaTherion777


Shadowlit Facade

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:04 pm


MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL MOST 2nd wave swedish black metal. talk2hand

Fix'd.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:38 pm


ashlander_alpha
MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL MOST 2nd wave swedish black metal. talk2hand

Fix'd.
i challenge you to name one good swedish BM band - either 2nd or 3rd wave.

MegaTherion777


Shadowlit Facade

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:06 pm


MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL MOST 2nd wave swedish black metal. talk2hand

Fix'd.
i challenge you to name one good swedish BM band - either 2nd or 3rd wave.

Naglfar, Diabolical Masquerade, Dark Funeral, Ancient Wisdom, Vinterland...
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:47 pm


ashlander_alpha
MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL MOST 2nd wave swedish black metal. talk2hand

Fix'd.
i challenge you to name one good swedish BM band - either 2nd or 3rd wave.

Naglfar, Diabolical Masquerade, Dark Funeral, Ancient Wisdom, Vinterland...
dark funeral is worse than marduk. naglfar is listenable, but not good black metal. diabolical masquerade sounds like dimmu borgir meets incipit satan (while i like gorgoroth, this album is absolute crap). ancient wisdom needs to get rid of the keyboards - it ruins the atmosphere. with both of the previous two bands, they put too much emphasis on melodies to be good black metal - the atmosphere disappears.

vinterland (at least in their earlier stuff) is the only band that managed to incorporate thier keyboards into the general atmosphere in a good manner. just enough melody to be "melodic" but not enough to detract from the raw atmosphere. however, their later stuff seems to depart from this, which is unfortunate. so now we have two good swedish black metal bands, bathory and vinterland

MegaTherion777


Shadowlit Facade

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:57 pm


MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
MegaTherion777
ashlander_alpha
I have one word: Marduk.
ALL MOST 2nd wave swedish black metal. talk2hand

Fix'd.
i challenge you to name one good swedish BM band - either 2nd or 3rd wave.

Naglfar, Diabolical Masquerade, Dark Funeral, Ancient Wisdom, Vinterland...
dark funeral is worse than marduk. naglfar is listenable, but not good black metal. diabolical masquerade sounds like dimmu borgir meets incipit satan (while i like gorgoroth, this album is absolute crap). ancient wisdom needs to get rid of the keyboards - it ruins the atmosphere. with both of the previous two bands, they put too much emphasis on melodies to be good black metal - the atmosphere disappears.

vinterland (at least in their earlier stuff) is the only band that managed to incorporate thier keyboards into the general atmosphere in a good manner. just enough melody to be "melodic" but not enough to detract from the raw atmosphere. however, their later stuff seems to depart from this, which is unfortunate. so now we have two good swedish black metal bands, bathory and vinterland

So, basically, your definition of good BM boils down to "Keyfags off my genre, pl0x." rolleyes

Regarding Dark Funeral: Yeah, I know they're lacking in originality and are rather heavy on the melody, but at least they're listenable.
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