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Phoenix_soarys

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:58 am


you can make one...

http://www.elizabethancostume.net/custompat/

best site i've found... but don't make one if you plan on gaining or loosing a lot of weight
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:04 pm


I'd personally love to get into waist training if I had the money. Unfortunately that's a bit of a problem at the moment....saving for a trip to England. Big ammounts of money. emo

I'm a worshipper of Bettie Page and want her figure so badly. I was not gifted with an hourglass shape, so I figure I'm a good candidate. I'd never go down to any 10 inches, though. That's a bit extreme for my taste.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:34 pm


color-me-wretched
I'd personally love to get into waist training if I had the money. Unfortunately that's a bit of a problem at the moment....saving for a trip to England. Big ammounts of money. emo

I'm a worshipper of Bettie Page and want her figure so badly. I was not gifted with an hourglass shape, so I figure I'm a good candidate. I'd never go down to any 10 inches, though. That's a bit extreme for my taste.


Waist training???? What is that? Sounds interesting.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:26 am


Dice Lees
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I adore corsets, I'm making an 18th century one at the moment. I also own a few that I bought.
It gets old how some people around in my area think that if you wear a corset then you're anorexic. Which is complete rubbish.

I really want to make an 18th century corset as well. I've only ever made a Victorian (circa 1850s) corset, and it wasn't my most spectacular accomplishment. Maybe you'll share some pictures of your finished product, I'd love to see it when it's done!


I would love to share some pictures of the finished product. It'll be a while before I can, the boning is going to take a while to get. It's steel and about $30 dollars for shipping and everything.

I get most of my stuff from here: http://www.lostcoasthistpatterns.com/
It's amazing and the owner is really nice.
 

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:37 am


Lady Juliana
color-me-wretched
I'd personally love to get into waist training if I had the money. Unfortunately that's a bit of a problem at the moment....saving for a trip to England. Big ammounts of money. emo

I'm a worshipper of Bettie Page and want her figure so badly. I was not gifted with an hourglass shape, so I figure I'm a good candidate. I'd never go down to any 10 inches, though. That's a bit extreme for my taste.


Waist training???? What is that? Sounds interesting.

I would strongly advise you not to do waist training. It is bad for you as your organs are shifted to different areas in your body and compressed in order to conform to the corset shape. It makes you look skinny in the stomach, but it actually makes your chest/shoulder region look bloated.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:49 am


Oh, the corset is a good topic to talk about (pardon my english if it's not good =P).

First I want to say that, as you might know, there are different types of corsets. I know only 3 of them: the ''normal'', wich would be the most popular one; another one that, unlike the normal one, doesn't includes the chest part- it's only up to the stomach-; and another one, made for the man to use, more a belt than a corset, wich was supposed to eliminate the sexual instinct, bringing really serious healh problems. It's purpose was to tighten the waist to the point that the secondary sexual characters can not develop properly, reducing considerably the sexual instinct, which supposed more docility and dedication to studies and stuff, leaving aside all the distractions that adolescence brings. Yet it was really harmful, shaping the waist like... well, just too small, exactly like the bee's body. The back problems were extreme, and the subject, onced he's reached the 20 years of life, almost couldn't walk at all.

Something that I heard from somewhere, don't remember well if it was real or not =P yet I'm pretty sure it's true... but I'm not sure if it was a corset type =P

Just a little data, that's all =P

Oh, and I really like how the corset fits in woman's body... I don't think it's whore's clothes, I think it's pure luxury, a very aristocratic part of a dress =P




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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:11 am


one of the things I have not seen mentioned here is the difference between early corsets and latter corsets. In the early middle ages corsets were form fitting , but didn't take your waist size down more than an inch or two. It wasn't until latter and latter that the corset was re-designed to reshape your body. It really was for the same purpose as a bra at first , then it evolved , and by the Victorian times was a little more of a torture device. In the Victorian era children down to the age of 4 were strapped into training corsets and had their body's reshaped from that age on. At that point it wasn't much better than Chinese foot binding (something that arose in china and reshaped a woman's foot by misplacing the bones, these women could hardly walk). So I am a huge fan of corsets worn in the early medieval style (only cutting a few inches) , even if it is a Victorian corset.
There are strong theory's that this type of corseting actually arose from English explorers who went to and returned from Japan . These men saw mostly geisha and thought that all Japanese women were like them . This is also evident in the white face that ended up in England.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:17 am


i just read the post about reshaping,

You would have had to start reshaping at about 5 or 6 when your bones are soft,
not only that it is an extreamly painful process much akin to footbinding...

and if this dosn't look painfull, then go for the reshaping... but remember if you want kids someday ... it will be very very painfull for your ribs and such....

(warning link contains graphic picture of after effects of foot binding....)
those little circles are her toes at the bottom...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:46 pm


toadies_soarys
i just read the post about reshaping,

You would have had to start reshaping at about 5 or 6 when your bones are soft,
not only that it is an extreamly painful process much akin to footbinding...

and if this dosn't look painfull, then go for the reshaping... but remember if you want kids someday ... it will be very very painfull for your ribs and such....

(warning link contains graphic picture of after effects of foot binding....)
those little circles are her toes at the bottom...

I have known that foot binding was an extremely painful process, but I had never seen what exactly it looked like afterward. Within the biography 'Chinese Cinderella', the authors' grandmother had had her feet bound and because of this she could barely walk without causing much pain.

Side note: "During the Elizabethan era, woman tried to emulate their queen's beauty to the point of death." (Quote by Gloria Noto)
Cosmetics from the Elizabethan era were very toxic. The ideal look of a woman of that time was deep coral lips, powdered white skin, red eyelids, accents of red on the cheeks, and either red or blond hair. Such skin was a sign of nobility and delicacy. The white skin was achieved by mixing white lead and vinegar, which caused many skin problems. Obviously, later on this would also cause problems; the skin would dry up and the wearer could become poisoned.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:15 pm


Dunedien
Lady Juliana
color-me-wretched
I'd personally love to get into waist training if I had the money. Unfortunately that's a bit of a problem at the moment....saving for a trip to England. Big ammounts of money. emo

I'm a worshipper of Bettie Page and want her figure so badly. I was not gifted with an hourglass shape, so I figure I'm a good candidate. I'd never go down to any 10 inches, though. That's a bit extreme for my taste.


Waist training???? What is that? Sounds interesting.

I would strongly advise you not to do waist training. It is bad for you as your organs are shifted to different areas in your body and compressed in order to conform to the corset shape. It makes you look skinny in the stomach, but it actually makes your chest/shoulder region look bloated.

I definitely agree! Waist training is why corsets get a bad rap. It can be very bad for you health and dangerous. There were some deaths in the Victorian era involving waist training/tightlacing. It's just not a good idea.

Dice Lees


Lady Juliana

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:01 pm


Dice Lees
Dunedien
Lady Juliana
color-me-wretched
I'd personally love to get into waist training if I had the money. Unfortunately that's a bit of a problem at the moment....saving for a trip to England. Big ammounts of money. emo

I'm a worshipper of Bettie Page and want her figure so badly. I was not gifted with an hourglass shape, so I figure I'm a good candidate. I'd never go down to any 10 inches, though. That's a bit extreme for my taste.


Waist training???? What is that? Sounds interesting.

I would strongly advise you not to do waist training. It is bad for you as your organs are shifted to different areas in your body and compressed in order to conform to the corset shape. It makes you look skinny in the stomach, but it actually makes your chest/shoulder region look bloated.

I definitely agree! Waist training is why corsets get a bad rap. It can be very bad for you health and dangerous. There were some deaths in the Victorian era involving waist training/tightlacing. It's just not a good idea.


Ohhh So THATS what it is. >_. Yeeah that doesn't sounds so interesting anymore.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:35 pm


1Mrs Elizabeth Turner
Dice Lees
1Mrs Elizabeth Turner
I adore corsets, I'm making an 18th century one at the moment. I also own a few that I bought.
It gets old how some people around in my area think that if you wear a corset then you're anorexic. Which is complete rubbish.

I really want to make an 18th century corset as well. I've only ever made a Victorian (circa 1850s) corset, and it wasn't my most spectacular accomplishment. Maybe you'll share some pictures of your finished product, I'd love to see it when it's done!


I would love to share some pictures of the finished product. It'll be a while before I can, the boning is going to take a while to get. It's steel and about $30 dollars for shipping and everything.

I get most of my stuff from here: http://www.lostcoasthistpatterns.com/
It's amazing and the owner is really nice.

Ooh, I've never seen that particular site before. I'm going to have to check them out!

Dice Lees


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:00 pm


It's mostly modern day corsets that help with back problems. Ever since I starting wearing corsets, my back has been placed in the exact position it needs to be. I also have deformed ribs(this was NOT caused by the corsets...ha, didn't want to scare anyone out of wearing them) and they're always growing and causing pain, so the corsets really help with that too. ^_^ Plus they're gorgeous!! I friggin love corsets!! I always have, even as a kid. XP ha I think the love started when I got to go to an old victorian house and they let us all try on clothes from there.

I can only slightly agree with the goth/madonna/slut thing, but whenever I look at a corset I think victorian.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:36 am


Corsets look so stylish and i just love them unfortunatly i must agree with most of the guys here and say something as fancy as that was turned in something to hide inside your closed cause people lable you as a slut or depressed sad

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:11 pm


xhollybluex
Corsets are amazing, but because of recent pop culture, they've turned into a goth/Madonna accessory. So now if you wear one, you're either a depressed kid obsessed with death or you're a slut.
But I still love them for their historical value and cause they're really, really pretty... heart


I beg to differ. I wear corsets, and i'm none of those things. I may be a goth, but none of those things. I think them to be very beautiful, fashionable, and just plain fun things to wear.
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