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Gravechylde
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:04 pm


My Hollow
Gravechylde
My Hollow
Woah, woah, woah, yes I did. In your eyes stupid, quite possibily, but there is no WAY I am going back on that statement.

Unleashed had already released 5 albums before Amon Amarth released their first album.

LYK I TOTALLYHAD NO IDEA. Oh wait, I did. They were releasing legit death metal, then started hiding behind the viking themes.

How did they rip off Amon Amarth though? They were doing it first.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:09 pm


Gravechylde
My Hollow
Gravechylde
My Hollow
Woah, woah, woah, yes I did. In your eyes stupid, quite possibily, but there is no WAY I am going back on that statement.

Unleashed had already released 5 albums before Amon Amarth released their first album.

LYK I TOTALLYHAD NO IDEA. Oh wait, I did. They were releasing legit death metal, then started hiding behind the viking themes.

How did they rip off Amon Amarth though? They were doing it first.

AA's Thor Arise demo came out the same year as Unleashed's Across the Open Sea.

My Hollow
Captain


Gravechylde
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:12 pm


My Hollow
Gravechylde
My Hollow
Gravechylde
My Hollow
Woah, woah, woah, yes I did. In your eyes stupid, quite possibily, but there is no WAY I am going back on that statement.

Unleashed had already released 5 albums before Amon Amarth released their first album.

LYK I TOTALLYHAD NO IDEA. Oh wait, I did. They were releasing legit death metal, then started hiding behind the viking themes.

How did they rip off Amon Amarth though? They were doing it first.

AA's Thor Arise demo came out the same year as Unleashed's Across the Open Sea.

That demo wasn't actually released. But then again it's more likely they both got the theme from Bathory.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:19 pm


Gravechylde
My Hollow
Gravechylde
My Hollow
Gravechylde
My Hollow
Woah, woah, woah, yes I did. In your eyes stupid, quite possibily, but there is no WAY I am going back on that statement.

Unleashed had already released 5 albums before Amon Amarth released their first album.

LYK I TOTALLYHAD NO IDEA. Oh wait, I did. They were releasing legit death metal, then started hiding behind the viking themes.

How did they rip off Amon Amarth though? They were doing it first.

AA's Thor Arise demo came out the same year as Unleashed's Across the Open Sea.

That demo wasn't actually released. But then again it's more likely they both got the theme from Bathory.

That I can agree with, But Unleashed was death band through and through (still is) but with your normal death metal lyrics. I still say they are a ripoff.

My Hollow
Captain


Gravechylde
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:23 pm


My Hollow
Gravechylde
My Hollow
Gravechylde
My Hollow

LYK I TOTALLYHAD NO IDEA. Oh wait, I did. They were releasing legit death metal, then started hiding behind the viking themes.

How did they rip off Amon Amarth though? They were doing it first.

AA's Thor Arise demo came out the same year as Unleashed's Across the Open Sea.

That demo wasn't actually released. But then again it's more likely they both got the theme from Bathory.

That I can agree with, But Unleashed was death band through and through (still is) but with your normal death metal lyrics. I still say they are a ripoff.

Even the first two albums had some Viking (or at least battle) themes.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:25 pm


question: does it matter?

answer: not really

MegaTherion777


Digital Malevolence
Vice Captain

Greedy Bloodsucker

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:56 pm


My Hollow
Digital Malevolence
My Hollow
Death metal their later material is about vikings and honor and mostly anti-Christian themes and Christ bashing. Wow, they are so cool. rolleyes

I realy see no point in them headlining, they aren't folk or viking metal. I think the headlining spots should be reserved for folk/viking/pagan metal bands. Not some barely recognizable death metal band with a few references to vikings because that's the kvlt thing to do now.
Oh, thats why I haven't heard of them...I hope they add at least one decent band to the list.

But yeah, thats like the concert I'm going to on Saturday, its called "twilight of the thunder god tour" with Amon Amarth, Ensiferum, Belphegor and The Absence. So pretty much Death Metal featuring a Viking Metal band! the concert I'm going to on friday sounds worse then that one though...

Just yet another Amon Amarth rip off.
Ah.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:58 pm


ashlander_alpha
Digital Malevolence
Oh, thats why I haven't heard of them...I hope they add at least one decent band to the list.

But yeah, thats like the concert I'm going to on Saturday, its called "twilight of the thunder god tour" with Amon Amarth, Ensiferum, Belphegor and The Absence. So pretty much Death Metal featuring a Viking Metal band! the concert I'm going to on friday sounds worse then that one though...

Saw an ad for this concert and had to scoff at the band list. They've no right to invoke the thunder god's name with a lineup like that. rolleyes
I agree, they could have at least added another Folk Metal band to the list...a good Folk Metal band.

Digital Malevolence
Vice Captain

Greedy Bloodsucker


The War Starter

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:39 am


AMON AMARTH ARE BATHORY RIP OFFS THEY DID IT FIRST LOLOLOL
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:42 am


MegaTherion777
question: does it matter?

answer: not really

no it doesn't, but it's a ridiculous statement to call them ripoffs because some other band does the whole viking theme, when they've established their sound and made their name before amon amarth even came into conception, AND they've touched on viking themes on nearly ALL of their albums, including the first few before amon amarth's demo.

The War Starter


MegaTherion777

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:44 am


The War Starter
MegaTherion777
question: does it matter?

answer: not really

no it doesn't, but it's a ridiculous statement to call them ripoffs because some other band does the whole viking theme, when they've established their sound and made their name before amon amarth even came into conception, AND they've touched on viking themes on nearly ALL of their albums, including the first few before amon amarth's demo.
it's music. if you like it, fine, if you dont, fine. who gives a flying ******** who ripped off who, or who didnt rip off who?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:29 pm


MegaTherion777
The War Starter
MegaTherion777
question: does it matter?

answer: not really

no it doesn't, but it's a ridiculous statement to call them ripoffs because some other band does the whole viking theme, when they've established their sound and made their name before amon amarth even came into conception, AND they've touched on viking themes on nearly ALL of their albums, including the first few before amon amarth's demo.
it's music. if you like it, fine, if you dont, fine. who gives a flying ******** who ripped off who, or who didnt rip off who?

it's more that i don't want anyone being led to believe that Unleashed are a rip-off of Amon Amarth because it just simply isn't true.

The War Starter


MegaTherion777

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:51 pm


The War Starter
MegaTherion777
The War Starter
MegaTherion777
question: does it matter?

answer: not really

no it doesn't, but it's a ridiculous statement to call them ripoffs because some other band does the whole viking theme, when they've established their sound and made their name before amon amarth even came into conception, AND they've touched on viking themes on nearly ALL of their albums, including the first few before amon amarth's demo.
it's music. if you like it, fine, if you dont, fine. who gives a flying ******** who ripped off who, or who didnt rip off who?

it's more that i don't want anyone being led to believe that Unleashed are a rip-off of Amon Amarth because it just simply isn't true.
...but does it matter whether it's true or not? my point is who cares if they did or did not rip off amon amarth, it's music and the only thing that matters is whether you enjoy them or not.

furthermore, what's with all this talk of "ripping off" other bands? if a band comes out with a sound you like, and your band develops a similar sound, that's not ripping off. that's a tribute. it's called being influenced. all bands are influenced by and pay homage to other bands. compare pink floyd's first album with the beatles early works. early pink floyd has a very early-beatles-ish sound to them, but it's not a ripoff, its just the manifestation of influence. same thing with stevie ray vaughn and jimi hendrix - there's a clear hendrix influence in SRV's work, but that doesnt mean he ripped hendrix off. early misfits didn't rip off the ramones but were paying homage to their greatness. i'm NOT meaning to suggest that unleashed was influenced by amon amarth, idk what they sound like and am not interested enough to find out. but what i am asking is how come, nowadays, if anyt two bands have even a slightly similar sound, one ripped the other off? it's called taking influence from one another.

tl;dr - it doesnt ******** matter who ripped who off or if any ripping off took place, what matters is whether it's enjoyable.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:15 pm


it matters when there is no ripping off at all! there is no tribute being paid here! the whole unleashed and amon amarth correlation is completely wrong and ridiculous! that's my point man. if you can't see that, then wtf dude?

The War Starter


MegaTherion777

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:34 pm


The War Starter
it matters when there is no ripping off at all! there is no tribute being paid here! the whole unleashed and amon amarth correlation is completely wrong and ridiculous! that's my point man. if you can't see that, then wtf dude?
obviously you didnt read my first and third paragraphs (or the latter half of the second). the second paragraph was an attack on the whole idea of "ripping off" - i think it's stupid to accuse any band of ripping off another band. the FIRST and THIRD paragraphs were directed towards anyone debating whether a ripping off occurred. IT DOESNT MATTER. IT'S NOT WORTH ARGUING ABOUT - JUST LISTEN TO THE ******** MUSIC IF YOU LIKE IT AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN DONT LISTEN TO IT. STOP ACTING LIKE 8 YEAR OLDS, ARGUING ABOUT WHO RIPPED OFF WHO. IT DOESNT MATTER WHO DID WHAT, WHAT MATTERS IS WHETHER YOU ENJOY THE MUSIC. that's what's the ********. damn, how many ******** ways do i have to say it?
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