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 Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:52 pm
I am bi-polar, with emphasis on the depressive part, I do have mild manic episodes. I know that St John's Wort helps with the depression, but does anyone know what can calm the manic?
@wolfen26
Since I am bi-polar, I find if I am having a manic attack, NA flute is what I need to help slow me down, even slow beats of a drum will agitate me. However, on the other hand, when I am depressed, both types of music can help lift me, Strange Huh?
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:23 pm
eek Eep. So much information! >_< Someday I've got find more patience to read all of this. I've realized that physical health and mental health directly affect each other. I'm such a idiot. xp Should have seen that sooner.
Anyway, I'm taking Zolaf or something like that. Medication. Anti-depressants. But I hope I never come to depend on it, because my mom cancelled all appointments with my psychiatrist because a pharmacist told her that the psychiatrist was only increasing my doses so that I'd come to depend on it and would have to keep going back to the psychiatrist. Not sure if that's true, but I'm just glad to be rid of that woman. >_< She scare me.
I have so many mood swings, and sometimes I just feel tired after a whole day of doing... nothing very strainful, but maybe the point is that I should move around more. Social interaction is helpful to mental health, but uh... How are you supposed to socialize with anyone if everyone your age keeps treating you like you're either younger than them or too innocent to be involved in their conversations? stressed Quote: I am bi-polar, with emphasis on the depressive part, I do have mild manic episodes. I know that St John's Wort helps with the depression, but does anyone know what can calm the manic? @wolfen26 Since I am bi-polar, I find if I am having a manic attack, NA flute is what I need to help slow me down, even slow beats of a drum will agitate me. However, on the other hand, when I am depressed, both types of music can help lift me, Strange Huh?
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:21 am
Granny E I am bi-polar, with emphasis on the depressive part, I do have mild manic episodes. I know that St John's Wort helps with the depression, but does anyone know what can calm the manic?
@wolfen26
Since I am bi-polar, I find if I am having a manic attack, NA flute is what I need to help slow me down, even slow beats of a drum will agitate me. However, on the other hand, when I am depressed, both types of music can help lift me, Strange Huh? Nah, not so strange, everyone is different. I also listen to flute music too, just for relaxing. I just run it as background noise quite a bit.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:18 am
I'm curious as to how much self-diagnosis and an aversion to modern pharmacology plays in our mental health problems? Is having a mental health issue the current in vogue thing or are we just more aware of such things?
I've been depressive for as long as I can remember. Once had a psychiatrist say that my behavior was the result of wanting a boyfriend, at 12 years old. Yeah..
I fit the DSM requirements for clinical depression but I've never been properly evaluated. Most people aren't aware of it either because I have such a strong will to display what society perceives as normal and healthy. It's when I'm alone or at night before I fall asleep that everything gets dark.
I also have social anxiety. I don't do well with new people or large groups or people in general. I can learn roles well and when I talked about this once with a coworker she was shocked because I displayed such confidence at work. However it's a simple script of greeting the customer, asking if they need anything else, taking their money, giving change, and saying thank you.
I dunno. There's more anxieties and deeper psychological issues that really require the need of a therapist. So far I manage decently with the tried and true defense mechanism of repression. yay repression.
How do you reconcile what you suspect or know about your mental state with how well (or unwell) you are capable of masking said problems? When you think about it, social interaction is just a series of elaborate scripts so if you can master that then you can hide anything in theory. Even a mental health crisis.
Some days I want to tell people that I feel like I'm going crazy, in a very literal sense. But I don't and the feeling passes.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:00 pm
onicoe How do you reconcile what you suspect or know about your mental state with how well (or unwell) you are capable of masking said problems? When you think about it, social interaction is just a series of elaborate scripts so if you can master that then you can hide anything in theory. Even a mental health crisis. Some days I want to tell people that I feel like I'm going crazy, in a very literal sense. But I don't and the feeling passes.
I know of 3 others in my family that have the same illness, and suspect that several others either have it or had, it. There have been several suicides my my family, including 2 sisters, (1 was 12 yrs old) a brother, and a niece. I myself had attempted, so has my remaining sister and brother (I guess that my family is proof that mental illness can be hereditary)
I can now, after 20years, hide most of my problems, if I can't, then I literally hide, I stay at home and will not even go out in public. but like you said, the feeling passes.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:36 pm
My family also has a history of suicides.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:51 pm
onicoe My family also has a history of suicides. Ouch. sad I had a troubled childhood (who didn't?) and of coursed had affected me in my adulthood. I have voices in my head, and unfortunately one of those voices was my mother. She disappeared when I started taking fish oil. *whee!* Now I just my regular voice with some guest appearances. (Anyone interested in what it's like, please read Gerald's Game by Stephen King.) I had self esteem, guilt, family and other random issues. I said enough was enough and actually went to see a registered psychologist who specialized in EMDR. (I was lucky that I had benefits from work to cover the costs.) It took about a year (6-10 sessions) and I have to say the one hour sessions were the most beneficial times of my life. EMDR is the most amazing technique. The website tells of the traditional way of doing it with the hands/fingers, but I normally got to use two small vibrating discs which are held in my hands. I can't say how well this works. I would walk in with, let's say, Evil Mother, and with the EMDR and 50 minutes later - cured. Seriously. Though, it does depend on the individual. The psychologist did mention it can take some individuals years to even reach the EMDR stage and then there's people like me that just want to let go. So, I'm now a well rounded individual. :3 My own two cents on mental health issues is that I feel that too many people need to have the "label". I remember growing up that I felt that I needed to belong to a religion. That I need to say I was "X Religion" or I wasn't complete. I have a feeling that society is a bit like now with diseases. There's too many pills for too many things. I feel that the spotlight needs to be more on the nutrition you get from food and how much real exercise you get. I think a lot of what ails us these days could easily be fixed by eating right and getting a good sweat.
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:09 am
That is true. We're currently living in the most sedentary generation along with consuming lots of mass marketed "food".
I think it could also be that we're quite honestly spoiled. With technology, health advances (death isn't so in-our-faces anymore), the world.. We live in a bubble that promises every quick fix to perfection and instills that expectation so when our lives fail in any degree there's great distress and mental strain...
I think in the past people were either labeled insane or simple attributed whatever they felt to their lot in life (class, circumstances, fate, etc).
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:57 am
I was watching a video in American History last week that I found particularly enthralling: it was looking at the "founding fathers" from a human point of view (as opposed to the popular thought that they were all geniuses or something) and it said that most of them probably suffered from what would today be seen as terrible mental illnesses. A good handful of them were called bipolar, John Adams was called outright manic depressive, three or four wrote extensively about suicidal thoughts, lots of them were alcoholics (water spread innumerable diseases so alcohol was pretty much the only long-lasting drink), and more than a few illegitimate children were said to be fathered. A lot of the "brilliant" people in history who had radical thoughts and discovered things we use today were mentally "ill". It makes me wonder if we'd be quite so advanced had they had access to all these medicines and such..
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:25 pm
Artistic Mystic I was watching a video in American History last week that I found particularly enthralling: it was looking at the "founding fathers" from a human point of view (as opposed to the popular thought that they were all geniuses or something) and it said that most of them probably suffered from what would today be seen as terrible mental illnesses. A good handful of them were called bipolar, John Adams was called outright manic depressive, three or four wrote extensively about suicidal thoughts, lots of them were alcoholics (water spread innumerable diseases so alcohol was pretty much the only long-lasting drink), and more than a few illegitimate children were said to be fathered. A lot of the "brilliant" people in history who had radical thoughts and discovered things we use today were mentally "ill". It makes me wonder if we'd be quite so advanced had they had access to all these medicines and such.. You have to wonder how much truth is in a video like that. These supposedly "mentally-challenged" individuals established a government that has been continuously in existence longer than any other on the earth today. They figured out how to make it work so well that people still come here---and are happy to stay. Perhaps it was because they didn't need to label themselves, or make excuses for who they were or what they did or did not have. They knew that their world was what they made it, and that in the final analysis they were responsible for their government, their families, their businesses, their whole personal world. There was no one to blame but themselves if the planting wasn't done, the doors weren't locked on the store, or a day's riding in the rain left them with pneumonia. They were personally responsible for everyone and everything that they cared about. There was no time to have a bad day, or whine about things that weren't right. I think that is the main difference between them and us. We are too far removed from many of the activities that sustain daily life. We lack their sense of independence and personal responsibility because, relatively speaking, we are no longer personally responsible for our own survival. It has become too easy to turn to someone else to solve our problems for us. It is true that "the more you do, the more you CAN do." I have certainly experienced this in my own life. That doesn't mean that you don't need a break now and then, but a break is just that. You can sit and wish things were different, or you can get up and make them different. I'd rather do something constructive.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:07 pm
sunsetsmile It is true that "the more you do, the more you CAN do." I have certainly experienced this in my own life. That doesn't mean that you don't need a break now and then, but a break is just that. You can sit and wish things were different, or you can get up and make them different. I'd rather do something constructive.
Heck yes. That's something that got me down for the longest time, until I realized that moping wasn't going to fix anything. Now that my attitude's better, it makes me sad that so many people I know just sit around and complain instead of fixing things. I can give advice all I want but I can't really help unless the person wants help.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:09 pm
sunsetsmile I got really tickled at my stepmother. She and dad have a small truck that they use around their place, and it needed a new engine. So she bought one on Ebay, and put it in HERSELF!!!! She had just gone through chemotherapy for uterine cancer, after having surgery---she wasn't even leaving their house without a wig yet, but she put in that engine! biggrin biggrin biggrin OOps, I forgot---she is 70 years old! blaugh heart
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:16 pm
pirhan I have voices in my head, and unfortunately one of those voices was my mother. She disappeared when I started taking fish oil. *whee!* Now I just my regular voice with some guest appearances. (Anyone interested in what it's like, please read Gerald's Game by Stephen King.) Really? I have 'voices' in my head to. The voices usually sound like my own voice but sometimes it sounds like hissing voices. They tell me to do bad things... I'm too stubborn. They should of picked someone else. I have quite a family history of 'paranormal issues' so there's really nothing I can do about it. (On family history, I also mean extended family. There's been physical attacks by unseen things. Windows/doors have opened and closed by themselves..rapidly.. I've seen things that shouldn't be there. Especially Civil war soldiers which seem a little displaced in NY.) Some of those things though have led to some of my current mental habits. For example, I have to go to bed before 3:00am. I'm paranoid over little things. etc.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:15 pm
luulamax pirhan I have voices in my head, and unfortunately one of those voices was my mother. She disappeared when I started taking fish oil. *whee!* Now I just my regular voice with some guest appearances. (Anyone interested in what it's like, please read Gerald's Game by Stephen King.) Really? I have 'voices' in my head to. The voices usually sound like my own voice but sometimes it sounds like hissing voices. They tell me to do bad things... I'm too stubborn. They should of picked someone else. I have quite a family history of 'paranormal issues' so there's really nothing I can do about it. (On family history, I also mean extended family. There's been physical attacks by unseen things. Windows/doors have opened and closed by themselves..rapidly.. I've seen things that shouldn't be there. Especially Civil war soldiers which seem a little displaced in NY.) Some of those things though have led to some of my current mental habits. For example, I have to go to bed before 3:00am. I'm paranoid over little things. etc. My voices are not paranormal. I did wish they were a bit more interesting. :3
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