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Naomi Tinuveil

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:16 am


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Step 1) Identify the problem. In my class, my friend knew this girl who, from her looks, he wouldn't know she was a satanist.

That's impossible, you can't tell someone is a satanist just buy their looks. That's called stereotyping and I belive that is really rude. Just because someone has a taste in dark clothing does not mean their "evil" or "satanic".

this is true. dark clothing is in no way representative of someone's beliefs. However, there are many people who wear occult-like symbols (whether they believe in such ideals or not) and don't understand the power of these symbols.

True! And that is what we pagans call "Fluff Bunny Syndrome." Or posers if you will, true some people have to start somewhere, but what really gives paganism & wicca a bad name are those kid that go watch the Craft and Read books by Silver Ravenwolf (aka silver ravenfluff) and think they know everything about witchcraft, they go around dressing in black and wearing big pentacles. -_-; it gets really annoying, I wish that other religions could see that they ARE NOT the what paganism & wicca are, those are posers, just as I'm sure christianity has people they don't want as their figure heads (( ::cough:: George W Bush ::cough:: ))

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But, just as this girl, there are "secret," or "undercover" ones. When there is a demon around, the Holy Spirit will tell you. You will feel it in your heart.

You sound more like your refering to Vampyres than Satanists. lol

lol I really have no clue about "vampyres" but my only advice on this is to be careful when it comes to "feelings." I don't if any of you have seen this diagram before buuut:
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Fact drives the train, which directs faith, which in turn directs feelings. Feeling is not leading the train correct? If it was, it would imply that our feelings=facts. The train can run with or without the caboose. In the same way as Christians we do not depend on feelings but on the word of God (IE: the fact)
... I'm sorry if that was somewhat jumbled sweatdrop

No that makes sense, though while feelings can not always conquere fact, when what we are "told" is "Fact" turns out to be just someone elses opinion?! I have trouble believing in the bible for the fact that is was
1) written by Man
2) parts of it are left out and locked in the vatican.
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Step 2) Bind the demon. You cannot cast a demon out without binding it. If not binded, the demon will resist your power. I will explain the whole idea of this at the end.

Step 3) Rebuke the demon. Now, when you rebuke the demon, you MUST PRAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS. There is great power in that name.

Now, here is what you do. Once you have identified the problem, you must pray and expel the demon in this form:

"Demon, I bind you and I rebuke you IN THE NAME OF JESUS."


I see I see . . . using the Egyptian method of using names of power. I won't argue with you on every single detail of your "exorcism" because you've left one too many open ends. Dealing with demons is serious business and should be left to people who have studied and worked in the field . . . .or from what I've seen old catholic priests. sweatdrop ((j/k))

I deeefinitely agree on this. You should never be attempting to perform an exorcism (or casting out demons) on your own. Demons are very powerful, and often we underestimate the power they have. Naturally they are not nearly as strong as God, however, many are stronger than we are. After all, as sinners, we are essentially weak. Without all the information you should never step into battle unprepared.

3nodding Though I believe that it is Humans that make themselves weak, not everyone is, if God flows through everything, including us, then we are granted help from god when we ask for it. But yes, never step into battle unprepared. ^__^ couldn't of said it better myself.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:36 pm


Oh for crying out loud! rolleyes

Naomi... I do adore your supportive comments. confused

I don't like how you doubt EVERYTHING and make it seem as if we're making a conspiracy of Christ. Watch less Da Vinci Code. And if you want to know about the Catholic way of casting demons, ask a Priest who takes care of the issue because an internet site, no matter how linked with the Christian faith can't explain in in definitions. Niether can you with wikipedia. Or comparing everything to your views.

Not everyone can do exorcism. A Priest who is gifted can cast them out. Ask a Priest who is has the gift- he knows better than we do. So, if you want to take care of 'dead ends' ask a Priest. It's not that hard to do. stare Don't look to support from a mix of people. We won't go out of our way to please you, or make you hear the reply you like.

Members, I don't want to be viewed as...well...'mean' or anything, but I really...some of these comments are absurd.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:21 pm


They are the experiences of someone who does not share the same beliefs as us. I'm sure she thinks some our responses are just as absurd. But our opinions do not change the facts, and when can we say that we always know that facts. The closest thing we have to fact is our knowledge and experiences, and most of us don't share these. The best we can do is share what we know, and come up with a conclusion from the new facts that we learn.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:52 am


But also, if you don't know what you're talking about, it's best not to come up with 'conclusions' that aren't very good- or apply everywhere.

Everyone can have an opinion, but no matter what your experience is, it's best not to sum up things all together. There is a wide variety of followers, so if it comes from a Catholic etc. perspective, we should ensure to putting exactly that. I'm sure a lot of things are the same, but not everyone knows things that say, a Priest would. So we should be careful in regards to our replies that could confuse, or give people the wrong ideas. smile

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:26 pm


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Oh for crying out loud! rolleyes

Naomi... I do adore your supportive comments. confused

I don't like how you doubt EVERYTHING and make it seem as if we're making a conspiracy of Christ. Watch less Da Vinci Code. And if you want to know about the Catholic way of casting demons, ask a Priest who takes care of the issue because an internet site, no matter how linked with the Christian faith can't explain in in definitions. Niether can you with wikipedia. Or comparing everything to your views.

Not everyone can do exorcism. A Priest who is gifted can cast them out. Ask a Priest who is has the gift- he knows better than we do. So, if you want to take care of 'dead ends' ask a Priest. It's not that hard to do. stare Don't look to support from a mix of people. We won't go out of our way to please you, or make you hear the reply you like.

Members, I don't want to be viewed as...well...'mean' or anything, but I really...some of these comments are absurd.


Truth be told I've never "watched" the Di Vinci Code, and I got about halfway through the book before I tossed it aside because, quite frankly, it was pure crap. I love how you so opening assume to know what the hell I'm thinking?!?! Your as bad as me xd I only explain the rules of exorcism, because I grew up catholic, and I used to talk with Father Gallagher all the time, he was like grandfather to me. As for wikipedia, I dont' go there, I've never found a use yet that took me to such extremes as to gather information from such a blatantly false website. So, don't assume so much.

And as for gaining support, I dont' need support, and quite frankly, you dont' have to like me. XP if you think this is a popularity contenst, your much mistaken. And while my comments to this thread may be absurd to you, the thread is just as absurd . . . so if your looking for an argument, your really not gonna get one. You really need to take a chill pill before your head explodes. 3nodding
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:08 pm


I've actually tried this once. It really did work.

It happened when my parents were fighting. Very typical in my house, so I wasn't so surprised. Then I suddenly felt a huge fear that my dad was going to harm my mom. It was kind of weird because I was kinda of already use to them fighting so much.

I remember how to cast demons out. I've knew this for a very long time.
I pray to God in tears in my eyes."in Jesus name!" After and suddenly they stopped and herd nothing. I felt even more scared...then I came out of my room and everything was fine as though nothing had happened.

Then on the next day my mom told me when she left me off to school She told me. "When I was fighting with your father I suddenly had this feeling of hugging him. Even though I was very angry at him. So I did, he hugged me back and we stopped fighting. That day I realized how much power god had. I got overjoyed when I herd what she said.

He knew my fear and the love I had for my parents.
I thank him so much.

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ProVeritas

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:46 pm


Ah yes, exorcism, always a fun topic. The whole thing about an exorcism is that you need to first identify the possessing demon. This can take weeks, even years to accomplish. Then you can begin the rite. The length of time it takes depends on the strength of the demon, and the persons willingness to let go. This is why even after having a demon cast out by say a preacher, or group of people, a demon can come back, sometimes stronger. It takes patience and diligence when dealing with the darkness. An exorcism beyond what you saw in the exorcist. If you wanna see what a real one would be like, watch the Exorcism of Emily Rose.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:39 pm


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Ah yes, exorcism, always a fun topic. The whole thing about an exorcism is that you need to first identify the possessing demon. This can take weeks, even years to accomplish. Then you can begin the rite. The length of time it takes depends on the strength of the demon, and the persons willingness to let go. This is why even after having a demon cast out by say a preacher, or group of people, a demon can come back, sometimes stronger. It takes patience and diligence when dealing with the darkness. An exorcism beyond what you saw in the exorcist. If you wanna see what a real one would be like, watch the Exorcism of Emily Rose.


I think one thing people forget is that you have to have some place for the Spirit/Demon to be Exorcised "to". You can't just make it vanish into thin air. I suppose going from a christian stand point you could send it back to the depths of hell. But from any experience or life story I've encountered, you can't send something somewhere unless you have a place to send it. (Unless of course you prefer the Konstantine-Approach of trapping things in mirrors, but I believe that comes from Egyptian mysticism.)

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