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 Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:44 pm
...birds creep over tin roofs, like criminals with tap shoes... .::Agnostic/pastafarian::.
Im all for evolution, i like the Darwin man.
I think we at this day don't have the tools, equipment or mind to understand what the creation of everything was. Maybe we will someday.
I have a hard time committing to a religion, because they are so alike. To me they are just spawning of each other. And theres nothing i like less then fanatics. Ive always had a hard time believing something created everything. The different stories about the creation of Man and Woman was the first thing that set me off as a child.
I kinda like the chaos we live in today, and i like to think that my life isnt controlled or predetermined by anything/someone.
...stain the glass with windows, extortionate and cold stare...
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:52 pm
***i'm REALLY sorry if i offend any one. as i will also say later i'd rather just let everyone be and i'm only stateing my veiws on this issue and related topics i've heard discussed before***
i believe in evolution. i believe that the evedence we see is real and not something put here to test one's faith.
Q: Should schools be allowed to teach creationism alongside evolution as part of their science curriculum?
A: NO NO NO NO. that is for the church to teach. scince classes can discuse and dibate the issue and state FACTS ONLY my bio class talked about evoulution, my teacher gave us the facts but never insisted we had to believe them. it is not for the schools to teach unless they are a privat catholic (or what ever religion there may be) school. public and nonreligious private schools should leave that to the parents and church.
it's a shame that even today there are people who can not accept that some people have different beliefs than themselvs. i know someone like this and needless to say we don't talk or make eye contact. and not only because we have different veiws but because she was rude, and critizised my friends and family's belifes (and other things happened but i won't get into that).
i've even heard ridiculous stuff from churches how they will tell the kids in sunday school that dinos did exist but they died in the great flood.....ok how come there's NO mention of them in the bible....don't tell me it's "not important enough" the dions were massive i mean don't you think SOMEONE would menthin getting trampled or cities being knoked down or something. i just think that some people have gone a little too far to try and make everyone happy. it never works....no matter what you try you can not please everyone....
.......i just don't understand why everyone can't let everyone else be the way they want to be. let everyone make their own dissions......
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:14 pm
I'm creation all the way.
Let me explain. Everything has a creator; buildings are created by construction workers, babies come from their parents etc. Nothing comes from nothing. Look at everything around you that was not put here by man look at trees and animals and water, it is all way to amazing and brilliant to have just popped up. There is intelligent thought behind it...it all works too well together. But my belief goes further than God said it and so it was. It is my sincere belief that God gave us free will, I don't believe I ate an apple this morning because God thought it was a better choice than pop-tarts, I believe that he gave us free will and if we will ourselves to change physically than we can.
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:50 pm
I don't see why they're against each other. I believe that creation and evolution work together. Let me explain. While religion class and the bible talk about one aspect of the world science works on a completly opposite part of the world. Religion is about explaing the faith and belief based point of view. One part of the human psyche. Science and evolution work on the physical/percievable point of the world. They both work together to explain the world to us humans who really are just overdeveloped monkeys. As Einstien once said religion without science is blind, science without religion is lame.
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:31 am
I don't think evolution goes hand in hand with creation.
I do believe animals adapt and change over time,
as the theory puts forth,
but to say that these changes are the "origin" of the species
is a little far fetched.
And, as a side note, the more I study carbon dating
and the assumptions made about the equilibrium of carbon isotopes in the atmosphere
I feel it's just a farce.
Carbon dating can't be accurate past 10,000 years without fudging the numbers a little.
Research it a little, you'll see the holes in logic and reasoning.
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:06 pm
it is siad that God created man in his own form. could it be possible for that form to be a monkey and we have evolved from that form.
I lay in between because of this. everything has a creator yet the evidence of evoulution is self-evident and that is why i believe in this theory.
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:13 pm
1DAKOTA SMITH1 i've even heard ridiculous stuff from churches how they will tell the kids in sunday school that dinos did exist but they died in the great flood.....ok how come there's NO mention of them in the bible....don't tell me it's "not important enough" the dions were massive i mean don't you think SOMEONE would menthin getting trampled or cities being knoked down or something. i just think that some people have gone a little too far to try and make everyone happy. it never works....no matter what you try you can not please everyone.... The Bible was written after the dinos. if you are so keen on evoulution you should have known that. pterodactyls cant write abouot the doings of God now can they?
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:23 pm
littlemoonwolf_15 1DAKOTA SMITH1 i've even heard ridiculous stuff from churches how they will tell the kids in sunday school that dinos did exist but they died in the great flood.....ok how come there's NO mention of them in the bible....don't tell me it's "not important enough" the dions were massive i mean don't you think SOMEONE would menthin getting trampled or cities being knoked down or something. i just think that some people have gone a little too far to try and make everyone happy. it never works....no matter what you try you can not please everyone.... The Bible was written after the dinos. if you are so keen on evoulution you should have known that. pterodactyls cant write abouot the doings of God now can they? I recently read a book that claimed to refute evolution. Apparently the authors of this book believed that calling evolutionists names like atheist, facist, and communist amounted to refuting evolution. Richard Dawkins' beliefs about God may call into question his motive, but they do not negate the science. That aside, the authors also gave a limited explanation of their theory. They believe that God created every thing and that every thing that God created existed at the same time. According to this belief, pterodactyls et al and humans co-existed. So littlemoonwolf's assertation that someone should/would have recorded maurading dinosaurs knocking down buildings and squishing people is valid. Perhaps you should try explaining your position Ms Smith, instead of getting snotty with someone whose opinion differs from yours. My late employer practiced the B'Hai (unsure of spelling) faith. This faith believes in one God and that his message is brought to us by a long line of prophets from Zoroaster to Muhammed and Jesus and beyond. They also believe that when science and religion differ, religion is wrong. If I believed in religion this would be the one that I followed.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:26 pm
Oops my bad! I switched the names around. Ms Smith, please accept my apology. Your point about dinosaurs is valid. It was littlemoonwolf who came off as snotty. Mia Culpa, Mia Culpa.
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:37 pm
Well, here's a quick lesson on creationism versus evolution.
Charles Darwin created the theory of macro-evolution, the idea that one species of animal will change into an entirely different species of animal over a veeery long period of time. For example, monkeys eventually evolve into humans with analytical intelligence. He formulated this theory based on his observations of micro-evolution among finches. Micro-evolution is the idea that a 2 animals of the same species will develop different characteristics due to their environment. For example, a horse that lives in the Sahara desert will have short, light fur whereas a horse that lives in Northern Canada will have very thick, shaggy fur.
Darwin acknowledged the fact that his theory had holes. The biggest one was the lack of fossil evidence showing the process of evolution. Creationists argued that if macro-evolution was possible, then they would find fossils of animals in transitional stages. However, they hadn't at that point. Darwin only said he was confident that more fossil evidence would be discovered in the future and that it would support his theory. To date, there have been no such discoveries. Most fossil evidence actually tends to support creationism. The "Cambrian Explosion", for example, has fossils of a wide variety of species not seen in earlier periods that seemed to just pop into existence at about the same time.
My personal opinion? I don't know and I don't care. I know micro-evolution is possible and ongoing right now. But I'm not part of organized religion. I believe in God and in Jesus, but whether God created everything as it is described in the Bible, I'm not sure of. He may have, but I wasn't there, so I can't say for certain.
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:32 am
littlemoonwolf_15 The Bible was written after the dinos. if you are so keen on evoulution you should have known that. pterodactyls cant write abouot the doings of God now can they?
I Hear ThunderThe bible as we know it today was also written and processed about 800 years After jesus was (presumably) nailed to a piece of wood. So what did these authors know of jesus, what he said and did? And what was selected to be in the bible contradicts itself on some points, with all the different authors.
And what about all that that didn't even make it into the bible, the stuff that was just so far fetched even the (at that point) current Christian church felt it to be to weird?
Id say its just literature. Not the words of god.
But Theres No Rain
...stain the glass with windows, extortionate and cold stare...
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