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 Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:28 pm
Soleq I believe it was the President''s firm duty to stand out on the shoreline with a giant towel to block Katrina. Any less and I disapprove of his leadership abilities.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:35 pm
I had a good friend that lived in new orleans. we always told each other our problems, and we had a lot. I wonder if he is still alive.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:38 pm
I am a victim of this storm, so I thought I should chime in with my 2 cents.
I am from Gulfport, Mississippi (one of the hardest hit areas from this storm), and it's horrible. I mean horrible.
I was lucky enough that me and my husband and our children were actually in Alabama when the storm hit, but all my friends and family were still in Gulfport along with ALL of my worldly possessions. We were in the process of moving from MS to AL when the storm hit. Everything I ever owned was being stored with a moving company until we found a good place in AL. But during the storm, the roof of the building housing everything I owned came off, so all my things were ruined.
So, eventhough me and my family are safe and we have a house, we have NOTHING to go in it. No furniture, no dishes, no beds, no clothes, no nothing all because of the storm. And sadly, there are hundreds more in my same situation if not worse.
Thankfully, my stuff was insured, so I'll be able to eventually replace everything that was lost, but some things I'll never get back, like my children's baby pictures or the little outfits they wore home from the hospital when they were born. It's very depressing.
The Red Cross and the local Hurricane Disaster Relief warehouse has helped us out, so it's not all bad. We were finally able to get dishes and pots and pans and such. But it's a long way from what we had.
I have been back to Gulfport twice since the storm hit. I went to check on my family and friends and my stuff. All my friends and family are physically ok, but they all sustained property damage.
Also it's just very depressing to see what has happened to my hometown. To drive around and see places that I hung out at as a teen destroyed maybe never to be rebuilt. It's like having your whole past erased overnight.
But, on the bright side, things are beginning to look up in Gulfport. Many people have their electricity, phone, and water back. So things are beginning to improve, but it will take some YEARS to rebuild along the beach (the MOST devestated area in Gulfport, Biloxi, Bay St. Louis, and Waveland).
I also spent a lot of my time in my teenaged years in New Orleans partying my a** off, and to see what's happened there is just mind-warping. Thankfully No one I knew in NO was hurt, but so many people died and lost everything.
Anywho, that's my opinion and experience with the hurricane for what it's worth. I did take some photos of the hurricane damage in my hometown, I'll post them up ASAP.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:44 pm
I haven't had time to really read all the responses but from what I heard, the people had time to evacuate, some just thought that they could wait it out though. I'm not saying they deserved what happened cause its aweful but they should have left. It would have been hard I'm sure, memories, friends, unsurity and fear. I may have had trouble leaving without packing up my stuff first. I wish I could help more.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:46 am
badloki I am a victim of this storm, so I thought I should chime in with my 2 cents. I am from Gulfport, Mississippi (one of the hardest hit areas from this storm), and it's horrible. I mean horrible. I was lucky enough that me and my husband and our children were actually in Alabama when the storm hit, but all my friends and family were still in Gulfport along with ALL of my worldly possessions. We were in the process of moving from MS to AL when the storm hit. Everything I ever owned was being stored with a moving company until we found a good place in AL. But during the storm, the roof of the building housing everything I owned came off, so all my things were ruined. So, eventhough me and my family are safe and we have a house, we have NOTHING to go in it. No furniture, no dishes, no beds, no clothes, no nothing all because of the storm. And sadly, there are hundreds more in my same situation if not worse. Thankfully, my stuff was insured, so I'll be able to eventually replace everything that was lost, but some things I'll never get back, like my children's baby pictures or the little outfits they wore home from the hospital when they were born. It's very depressing. The Red Cross and the local Hurricane Disaster Relief warehouse has helped us out, so it's not all bad. We were finally able to get dishes and pots and pans and such. But it's a long way from what we had. I have been back to Gulfport twice since the storm hit. I went to check on my family and friends and my stuff. All my friends and family are physically ok, but they all sustained property damage. Also it's just very depressing to see what has happened to my hometown. To drive around and see places that I hung out at as a teen destroyed maybe never to be rebuilt. It's like having your whole past erased overnight. But, on the bright side, things are beginning to look up in Gulfport. Many people have their electricity, phone, and water back. So things are beginning to improve, but it will take some YEARS to rebuild along the beach (the MOST devestated area in Gulfport, Biloxi, Bay St. Louis, and Waveland). I also spent a lot of my time in my teenaged years in New Orleans partying my a** off, and to see what's happened there is just mind-warping. Thankfully No one I knew in NO was hurt, but so many people died and lost everything. Anywho, that's my opinion and experience with the hurricane for what it's worth. I did take some photos of the hurricane damage in my hometown, I'll post them up ASAP.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:28 am
ButterBalls What's up with the national guard, local government, and state government? They're mostly idiots as far as I can tell. The National Guard is alright I suppose, they're just doing as ordered. But local and state governement in southern Mississippi is now, and always has been, a bunch of morons. They're completely unorganized and many have their heads up their asses. My Dad said it took about 4 days before FEMA/local gov folks finally came out to his house and brought him any ice or water. And that was the case pretty much everywhere, and my dad lives about 7 or 8 miles inland. There was just no help for anyone for about the first 3 or 4 days. I don't know why the hell things happened like that. You'd think with all these new homeland security measures and such that were put into place after 9/11 that the government would've been a wee bit more prepared to deal with something like this, but no. It just scares me to think that if we had another massive terrorist attack, this is the "awesome" response we'd be looking forward to. neutral
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:17 pm
I feel very half anf half about the whole Kartina thing. I had no friends or family there, so I have no emtional stand point on it. All in all, I'm literally on the fence. I can say both good and bad things about everyone involved from the people to the goverment.
On one hand:
-They were given plenty of warnings and time to prepare and evactuate.
-The type of land they wer eliving on has always been prone to this kind of thing. Geologists and meterologists have been warning them for years about this kind of scenario.
On the other hand:
-I understand it is their home and most feel attached and didn't want to leave. Some even felt the hurricane wouldn't be as bad as it was.
-Some had no where else to go and didn't want to leave all they knew and loved.
Aftermath:
-Both local and national goverments (from the N.O mayor all the way up to Bush) did not respond fast enough and wasted 5-6 days bitching over the issue of who would do what and when. To me, the people matter FIRST, then worry about the $$$ costs and whose bill it is later.
-I was kinda pissed at all the reporters being there and not helping. Especially on Weather Channel feildman in preticular stare . Do your story, that's cool, but then drop the mic and help anyway you can when a disaster is that bad.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:31 pm
I had the opportunity to sit down and talk with a couple of survivors late last week. The both lived in NO, and left 5 minutes before the mandatory evacuation order sunsetted (police were there to arrest them if they did not leave). Their house was down the road from the marina, and the levy actually touched their property line. They drove their little Honda over to Texas, and from there up to my town (in California). Once here, they got to see what their neighborhood looked like after the water receeded: just a muddy field. Some of their neighbors stayed, and those who did surely died. They pretty much lost everything, but the hardest part is now surviving the fact that their lives will never be the same. I honestly feel for those who will spend the next few years getting their lives back on track. Sure, you can say that they had plenty of warning, but when the next hurricaine is always labelled as "the big one," it's easy to second guess meterologist's assumptions.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:54 pm
Soleq I had the opportunity to sit down and talk with a couple of survivors late last week. The both lived in NO, and left 5 minutes before the mandatory evacuation order sunsetted (police were there to arrest them if they did not leave). Their house was down the road from the marina, and the levy actually touched their property line. They drove their little Honda over to Texas, and from there up to my town (in California). Once here, they got to see what their neighborhood looked like after the water receeded: just a muddy field. Some of their neighbors stayed, and those who did surely died. They pretty much lost everything, but the hardest part is now surviving the fact that their lives will never be the same. I honestly feel for those who will spend the next few years getting their lives back on track. Sure, you can say that they had plenty of warning, but when the next hurricaine is always labelled as "the big one," it's easy to second guess meterologist's assumptions. I agree, it is easy to not believe the meteorologists... especially when you've lived in this region your whole life and been through soooo many hurricanes. It's easy to get complacent and not believe that the next one is gonna be the "big one." And then there are those who have no way to leave and no place to go and no money to get there. Sure they were given warnings, but where are the poor to go? How are they to get there? Not to mention it's probably not easy for someone to leave EVERYTHING they've ever known. Evacuation is a touchy subject to me. It obviously make sense to someone who hasn't been through it to simply leave, but to many others it isn't so cut and dry. Anyways... Just thought I'd post up some of these hurricane pics since I've got them uploaded now. I took all these pics on September 17th with my digi camera. These were all taken in Gulfport, Mississippi. (Warning! They're all super huge. Sorry, but I don't have a way to crop them while maintaining good resolution) Gas Station: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1044.jpgA McDonalds that was near the beach: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1059.jpgCanned water that FEMA was handing out: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1062.jpgBeached boat: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1060.jpgLittle shopping center: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1045.jpgWhat used to be a bank and gas station: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1055.jpg
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:58 pm
I have sort of a question/queery. I know that often flood damages aren't covered by normal insurance and you need additional insurance to cover for it. So would the damage done by the hurrican be classified as flood? Or just the damage done after the levies broke? Or none of it at all. I can totally understand how terrible it would be to lose all of your worldly possisions. And no amount of money will bring most of them back but at least insurance money can rebuild homes and furnish them if it is there. Just a curiosity of mine if anyone knows or has heard.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:59 pm
badloki ButterBalls What's up with the national guard, local government, and state government? They're mostly idiots as far as I can tell. The National Guard is alright I suppose, they're just doing as ordered. But local and state governement in southern Mississippi is now, and always has been, a bunch of morons. They're completely unorganized and many have their heads up their asses. My Dad said it took about 4 days before FEMA/local gov folks finally came out to his house and brought him any ice or water. And that was the case pretty much everywhere, and my dad lives about 7 or 8 miles inland. There was just no help for anyone for about the first 3 or 4 days. I don't know why the hell things happened like that. You'd think with all these new homeland security measures and such that were put into place after 9/11 that the government would've been a wee bit more prepared to deal with something like this, but no. It just scares me to think that if we had another massive terrorist attack, this is the "awesome" response we'd be looking forward to. neutral
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:02 pm
badloki I agree, it is easy to not believe the meteorologists... especially when you've lived in this region your whole life and been through soooo many hurricanes. It's easy to get complacent and not believe that the next one is gonna be the "big one." And then there are those who have no way to leave and no place to go and no money to get there. Sure they were given warnings, but where are the poor to go? How are they to get there? Not to mention it's probably not easy for someone to leave EVERYTHING they've ever known. Evacuation is a touchy subject to me. It obviously make sense to someone who hasn't been through it to simply leave, but to many others it isn't so cut and dry. Anyways... Just thought I'd post up some of these hurricane pics since I've got them uploaded now. I took all these pics on September 17th with my digi camera. These were all taken in Gulfport, Mississippi. (Warning! They're all super huge. Sorry, but I don't have a way to crop them while maintaining good resolution) Gas Station: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1044.jpg A McDonalds that was near the beach: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1059.jpg Canned water that FEMA was handing out: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1062.jpg Beached boat: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1060.jpg Little shopping center: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1045.jpg What used to be a bank and gas station: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/badloki/Picture1055.jpg
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:09 pm
Great pics Loki. Brings things to reality knowing that you actually were there to take the pictures.
Anyway, about Chalda's question, from what I've heard the insurance companies are only paying for damages that were on the shoreline, and barely any if that. It's common for insurance not to pay out for "acts of god," i.e. earthquakes, floods, locus storms...but this is even going beyond that. You see, you often can't get flood insurance in places that often flood. Thus, people near water are out of luck. But those who aren't near water (inland), they're saying that a levy break isn't a flood, because floods occur from rivers swelling, not giant waves. Hence, the State's Attorney's office is sueing insurance companies for not paying when they're really supposed to.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:11 pm
Soleq Great pics Loki. Brings things to reality knowing that you actually were there to take the pictures. Anyway, about Chalda's question, from what I've heard the insurance companies are only paying for damages that were on the shoreline, and barely any if that. It's common for insurance not to pay out for "acts of god," i.e. earthquakes, floods, locus storms...but this is even going beyond that. You see, you often can't get flood insurance in places that often flood. Thus, people near water are out of luck. But those who aren't near water (inland), they're saying that a levy break isn't a flood, because floods occur from rivers swelling, not giant waves. Hence, the State's Attorney's office is sueing insurance companies for not paying when they're really supposed to.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:45 pm
hiya im new to the guild. and *cough* i live in Biloxi, Mississippi XD. and no i did not evacuate. and woot my house didnt get touched.
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