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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:06 am


itwasntme666
I'm talking about the anime because, Marcos gets all scared when he says he can go to where they use to live and then he said "I can't go there because two of the doctors names where rockbell"


Okay, highlight to read, peoples. In the anime, it was indeed Roy who had killed Winry's parents. During the episode when Marcoh says that he can't go to Winry's house because they have the name of Rockbell, Marcoh is saying that because he KNOWS what happened, how it happened, who did it, and so forth. He was unable to convince Basque Gran of how wrong it was for Gran to order Roy to murder the doctors, and in doing that, Marcoh feels that he is just as guilty of their death as Mustang, if not more so. Marcoh feels that he should have been able to stop the Rockbell's murders, but was unable to. He doesn't blame Roy for it, because Roy was just following orders, and Roy never enjoyed carrying out those orders. Thus, the reason he tries to commit suicide as he's trying to clean up the blood. Marcoh prevents him from killing himself, though, and Roy lets Marcoh go without telling anyone where he went.

In the manga, Scar is the one that was recently revealed as the killer of Winry's parents. Why he would kill them, we don't really know, because these doctors treated everyone, regardless of who's side you were on. Anything else we wish to see in regards to Scar being the killer will eventually show itself in the newer manga chapters, but that's about half a months time from the time I submit this post.


I hope that clarified somethings, instead of confusing you all. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:30 pm


foxy1413
kikyo98
itwasntme666
foxy1413
yes,I know that in the anime Roy killed them.But I heard that...
highlight to read:Scar killed winrys parents in the manga

Is that true? And if so can someone tell me what chapter it is in the manga,please?
Wrong it wasn't roy who killed him but marco and some of the soldiers.


You'r wrong too. it WAS roy who killed them in the anime. He was ordered to shoot both of them for helping the enemy a.k.a the ishbalans.

As for the manga...i think the person who killed them was Scar's bro. Becuz all they said was that the killer had a tattoo on his right arm....it could be his bro or Scar. But, i think it was Scar's bro, becuz when Ed said, "Do you remember those two doctors who helped you and you killed?!" Scar said, "Brother!!!" So i think it was his brother. Because before.....Scar's bro had that tattoo before also. This is me combining the anime AND the manga....so i'm not sure if i'm right...but i'm positive that it was Scar's bro.

nope highlight to read: It was Scar that killed them, I read the chapeter of the manga in which it happened.Because Winry found out and took a gun and was about to shoot Scar.And Scar said somthing like "You have a reason to shoot me,but once you shoot you will become my enemy" so it was Scar.I would give the link to the site where I found it but I forgot it,but they already reached chapter 50 on it


I read that too, but the things is...(spoiler)It's tru, Scar said, "You have a reason to shoot me, but once you shoot, you will become my enemy." He's basically saying that because he doesn't kill innocent people. He only kills state alchemists and stuff. If a person were to shoot you, you would begin thinking they're you're enemy, wouldn't you? The reason why Winry took the gun was cuz she believed what Ed shouted out, which was, "Do you remember killing the two doctors who helped you in the Ishbalan war?!?!" Basically, she just jumped to a natural and obvious conclusion. And please keep in mind, after Ed shouted out the murder of Mr and Mrs Rockbell.....Scar IMMEDIATELY thought in his mind, "BROTHER!!!" In a couple chapters before....Ed met these Ishbalans who told them about a guy in bandages who killed her parents. And all they said was the killer was a guy with a tattoo on his right arm. They said they couldn't make out his face becuz it was covered in bandages. So naturally...Ed jumped into conclusions too becuz he only knows one person that has a tattoo on his right arm. That person is Scar. He didn't know Scar's bro had the tattoo before. So in conclusion, i think it was Scar's bro who killed Winry's parents.

Once again...that[s just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:26 am


kikyo98
foxy1413
kikyo98
itwasntme666
foxy1413
yes,I know that in the anime Roy killed them.But I heard that...
highlight to read:Scar killed winrys parents in the manga

Is that true? And if so can someone tell me what chapter it is in the manga,please?
Wrong it wasn't roy who killed him but marco and some of the soldiers.


You'r wrong too. it WAS roy who killed them in the anime. He was ordered to shoot both of them for helping the enemy a.k.a the ishbalans.

As for the manga...i think the person who killed them was Scar's bro. Becuz all they said was that the killer had a tattoo on his right arm....it could be his bro or Scar. But, i think it was Scar's bro, becuz when Ed said, "Do you remember those two doctors who helped you and you killed?!" Scar said, "Brother!!!" So i think it was his brother. Because before.....Scar's bro had that tattoo before also. This is me combining the anime AND the manga....so i'm not sure if i'm right...but i'm positive that it was Scar's bro.

nope highlight to read: It was Scar that killed them, I read the chapeter of the manga in which it happened.Because Winry found out and took a gun and was about to shoot Scar.And Scar said somthing like "You have a reason to shoot me,but once you shoot you will become my enemy" so it was Scar.I would give the link to the site where I found it but I forgot it,but they already reached chapter 50 on it


I read that too, but the things is...(spoiler)It's tru, Scar said, "You have a reason to shoot me, but once you shoot, you will become my enemy." He's basically saying that because he doesn't kill innocent people. He only kills state alchemists and stuff. If a person were to shoot you, you would begin thinking they're you're enemy, wouldn't you? The reason why Winry took the gun was cuz she believed what Ed shouted out, which was, "Do you remember killing the two doctors who helped you in the Ishbalan war?!?!" Basically, she just jumped to a natural and obvious conclusion. And please keep in mind, after Ed shouted out the murder of Mr and Mrs Rockbell.....Scar IMMEDIATELY thought in his mind, "BROTHER!!!" In a couple chapters before....Ed met these Ishbalans who told them about a guy in bandages who killed her parents. And all they said was the killer was a guy with a tattoo on his right arm. They said they couldn't make out his face becuz it was covered in bandages. So naturally...Ed jumped into conclusions too becuz he only knows one person that has a tattoo on his right arm. That person is Scar. He didn't know Scar's bro had the tattoo before. So in conclusion, i think it was Scar's bro who killed Winry's parents.

Once again...that[s just my opinion.
...and your opinion is a good one, sound and logical...
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:20 pm


Aegis-Eishiki
kikyo98
foxy1413
kikyo98
itwasntme666
foxy1413
yes,I know that in the anime Roy killed them.But I heard that...
highlight to read:Scar killed winrys parents in the manga

Is that true? And if so can someone tell me what chapter it is in the manga,please?
Wrong it wasn't roy who killed him but marco and some of the soldiers.


You'r wrong too. it WAS roy who killed them in the anime. He was ordered to shoot both of them for helping the enemy a.k.a the ishbalans.

As for the manga...i think the person who killed them was Scar's bro. Becuz all they said was that the killer had a tattoo on his right arm....it could be his bro or Scar. But, i think it was Scar's bro, becuz when Ed said, "Do you remember those two doctors who helped you and you killed?!" Scar said, "Brother!!!" So i think it was his brother. Because before.....Scar's bro had that tattoo before also. This is me combining the anime AND the manga....so i'm not sure if i'm right...but i'm positive that it was Scar's bro.

nope highlight to read: It was Scar that killed them, I read the chapeter of the manga in which it happened.Because Winry found out and took a gun and was about to shoot Scar.And Scar said somthing like "You have a reason to shoot me,but once you shoot you will become my enemy" so it was Scar.I would give the link to the site where I found it but I forgot it,but they already reached chapter 50 on it


I read that too, but the things is...(spoiler)It's tru, Scar said, "You have a reason to shoot me, but once you shoot, you will become my enemy." He's basically saying that because he doesn't kill innocent people. He only kills state alchemists and stuff. If a person were to shoot you, you would begin thinking they're you're enemy, wouldn't you? The reason why Winry took the gun was cuz she believed what Ed shouted out, which was, "Do you remember killing the two doctors who helped you in the Ishbalan war?!?!" Basically, she just jumped to a natural and obvious conclusion. And please keep in mind, after Ed shouted out the murder of Mr and Mrs Rockbell.....Scar IMMEDIATELY thought in his mind, "BROTHER!!!" In a couple chapters before....Ed met these Ishbalans who told them about a guy in bandages who killed her parents. And all they said was the killer was a guy with a tattoo on his right arm. They said they couldn't make out his face becuz it was covered in bandages. So naturally...Ed jumped into conclusions too becuz he only knows one person that has a tattoo on his right arm. That person is Scar. He didn't know Scar's bro had the tattoo before. So in conclusion, i think it was Scar's bro who killed Winry's parents.

Once again...that[s just my opinion.
...and your opinion is a good one, sound and logical...


Thanks ^_^

kikyo98


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:32 pm


kikyo98
foxy1413
kikyo98
itwasntme666
foxy1413
yes,I know that in the anime Roy killed them.But I heard that...
highlight to read:Scar killed winrys parents in the manga

Is that true? And if so can someone tell me what chapter it is in the manga,please?
Wrong it wasn't roy who killed him but marco and some of the soldiers.


You'r wrong too. it WAS roy who killed them in the anime. He was ordered to shoot both of them for helping the enemy a.k.a the ishbalans.

As for the manga...i think the person who killed them was Scar's bro. Becuz all they said was that the killer had a tattoo on his right arm....it could be his bro or Scar. But, i think it was Scar's bro, becuz when Ed said, "Do you remember those two doctors who helped you and you killed?!" Scar said, "Brother!!!" So i think it was his brother. Because before.....Scar's bro had that tattoo before also. This is me combining the anime AND the manga....so i'm not sure if i'm right...but i'm positive that it was Scar's bro.

nope highlight to read: It was Scar that killed them, I read the chapeter of the manga in which it happened.Because Winry found out and took a gun and was about to shoot Scar.And Scar said somthing like "You have a reason to shoot me,but once you shoot you will become my enemy" so it was Scar.I would give the link to the site where I found it but I forgot it,but they already reached chapter 50 on it


I read that too, but the things is...(spoiler)It's tru, Scar said, "You have a reason to shoot me, but once you shoot, you will become my enemy." He's basically saying that because he doesn't kill innocent people. He only kills state alchemists and stuff. If a person were to shoot you, you would begin thinking they're you're enemy, wouldn't you? The reason why Winry took the gun was cuz she believed what Ed shouted out, which was, "Do you remember killing the two doctors who helped you in the Ishbalan war?!?!" Basically, she just jumped to a natural and obvious conclusion. And please keep in mind, after Ed shouted out the murder of Mr and Mrs Rockbell.....Scar IMMEDIATELY thought in his mind, "BROTHER!!!" In a couple chapters before....Ed met these Ishbalans who told them about a guy in bandages who killed her parents. And all they said was the killer was a guy with a tattoo on his right arm. They said they couldn't make out his face becuz it was covered in bandages. So naturally...Ed jumped into conclusions too becuz he only knows one person that has a tattoo on his right arm. That person is Scar. He didn't know Scar's bro had the tattoo before. So in conclusion, i think it was Scar's bro who killed Winry's parents.

Once again...that[s just my opinion.


I really hope that's true. cry
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:30 am


In the anime Roy killed them.

BAD ROY :beats with stick:

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Rowen McNeill

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:51 am


Flaming Envy
In the anime Roy killed them.

BAD ROY :beats with stick:
Hey, orders are orders. You don't follow them there will be somebody else to do it fore you and take your paycheck. And they may be less merciless than you would be.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:16 pm


Rowen McNeill
Flaming Envy
In the anime Roy killed them.

BAD ROY :beats with stick:
Hey, orders are orders. You don't follow them there will be somebody else to do it fore you and take your paycheck. And they may be less merciless than you would be.


Paycheck and the fact that Base Grand was a higher up, couldn't it have been concidered treason if he didn't follow his orders?

ScarXLust_Fan


Rowen McNeill

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:22 pm


BakuraFan
Rowen McNeill
Flaming Envy
In the anime Roy killed them.

BAD ROY :beats with stick:
Hey, orders are orders. You don't follow them there will be somebody else to do it fore you and take your paycheck. And they may be less merciless than you would be.


Paycheck and the fact that Base Grand was a higher up, couldn't it have been concidered treason if he didn't follow his orders?
Yes indeed. Especialy during wartime.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:07 pm


Rowen McNeill
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Rowen McNeill
Flaming Envy
In the anime Roy killed them.

BAD ROY :beats with stick:
Hey, orders are orders. You don't follow them there will be somebody else to do it fore you and take your paycheck. And they may be less merciless than you would be.


Paycheck and the fact that Base Grand was a higher up, couldn't it have been concidered treason if he didn't follow his orders?
Yes indeed. Especialy during wartime.


Roy probably didn't give a damn about his paycheck. You see, like mentioned earlier, if you were to disobey your superior officer's orders in a time of war, there's a good chance that you'll either get court martialed, imprisoned, or killed for insubordination. Roy didn't really have a choice with whether or not he could or couldn't kill Winry's parents, because if he did refuse, Gran could have Roy killed and always get someone more willing (like Kimbley) to come along and kill the Rockbell doctors for him. That, or Gran could do it himself, but I don't think that he'd want to get his hands dirty like that.

Also, despite having killed Winry's parents, this doesn't make Roy a horrible person, because it's the Rockbell's deaths that makes him decide to never, ever follow another ridiculous order again. This is where he gets part of his motivation to make things better, for everyone, so that there will never be another Ishvar or Rockbell incident again. Roy almost killed himself over this, and he honestly hated doing what he did during Ishvar. The manga gaiden 'Blue Book' gives us a more indepth glimpse of how Roy felt during Ishvar. (Keep in mind, in the manga, Hughes didn't have a desk job. Rather, he actually was out there in the field with Roy and the others.)

Also, what I really can't wait to see is how Scar ended up killing Winry's parents. Sure, Scar has killed many people (mostly from the military), but to kill civilians, especially ones that are helping his people in addition to their own, just doesn't seem like something that they'd do. I can't wait to see how this will turn out.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:27 pm


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Roy probably didn't give a damn about his paycheck. You see, like mentioned earlier, if you were to disobey your superior officer's orders in a time of war, there's a good chance that you'll either get court martialed, imprisoned, or killed for insubordination. Roy didn't really have a choice with whether or not he could or couldn't kill Winry's parents, because if he did refuse, Gran could have Roy killed and always get someone more willing (like Kimbley) to come along and kill the Rockbell doctors for him. That, or Gran could do it himself, but I don't think that he'd want to get his hands dirty like that.

Also, despite having killed Winry's parents, this doesn't make Roy a horrible person, because it's the Rockbell's deaths that makes him decide to never, ever follow another ridiculous order again. This is where he gets part of his motivation to make things better, for everyone, so that there will never be another Ishvar or Rockbell incident again. Roy almost killed himself over this, and he honestly hated doing what he did during Ishvar. The manga gaiden 'Blue Book' gives us a more indepth glimpse of how Roy felt during Ishvar. (Keep in mind, in the manga, Hughes didn't have a desk job. Rather, he actually was out there in the field with Roy and the others.)

Also, what I really can't wait to see is how Scar ended up killing Winry's parents. Sure, Scar has killed many people (mostly from the military), but to kill civilians, especially ones that are helping his people in addition to their own, just doesn't seem like something that they'd do. I can't wait to see how this will turn out.
He doesn't strike me as the 'when I get paid' type, but sometimes when you say somebody will loose their job people only get it when you say 'loose the paycheck'. Man, I really gotta read the manga...
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:34 pm


StrawberrieIceCream
Rowen McNeill
BakuraFan
Rowen McNeill
Flaming Envy
In the anime Roy killed them.

BAD ROY :beats with stick:
Hey, orders are orders. You don't follow them there will be somebody else to do it fore you and take your paycheck. And they may be less merciless than you would be.


Paycheck and the fact that Base Grand was a higher up, couldn't it have been concidered treason if he didn't follow his orders?
Yes indeed. Especialy during wartime.


Roy probably didn't give a damn about his paycheck. You see, like mentioned earlier, if you were to disobey your superior officer's orders in a time of war, there's a good chance that you'll either get court martialed, imprisoned, or killed for insubordination. Roy didn't really have a choice with whether or not he could or couldn't kill Winry's parents, because if he did refuse, Gran could have Roy killed and always get someone more willing (like Kimbley) to come along and kill the Rockbell doctors for him. That, or Gran could do it himself, but I don't think that he'd want to get his hands dirty like that.

Also, despite having killed Winry's parents, this doesn't make Roy a horrible person, because it's the Rockbell's deaths that makes him decide to never, ever follow another ridiculous order again. This is where he gets part of his motivation to make things better, for everyone, so that there will never be another Ishvar or Rockbell incident again. Roy almost killed himself over this, and he honestly hated doing what he did during Ishvar. The manga gaiden 'Blue Book' gives us a more indepth glimpse of how Roy felt during Ishvar. (Keep in mind, in the manga, Hughes didn't have a desk job. Rather, he actually was out there in the field with Roy and the others.)

Also, what I really can't wait to see is how Scar ended up killing Winry's parents. Sure, Scar has killed many people (mostly from the military), but to kill civilians, especially ones that are helping his people in addition to their own, just doesn't seem like something that they'd do. I can't wait to see how this will turn out.


I already knew that Roy wasn't a bad person, even after he killed Winry's parents. I mean, c'mon....you could see him struggling to kill them. He was like...holding the gun and giving the expression, "omg....what have i done?!!?" after he shot that.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:10 pm


kikyo98
I already knew that Roy wasn't a bad person, even after he killed Winry's parents. I mean, c'mon....you could see him struggling to kill them. He was like...holding the gun and giving the expression, "omg....what have i done?!!?" after he shot that.


Yeah, it's just that I was trying to reiterate things again. Sorry if what I said sounded wrong. sweatdrop Well, not only was he all freaking out, but he attempted suicide too... Ah, seeing Roy broken like that is so much fun. Probably because I love the angst. sweatdrop sweatdrop But what I (and everyone else) really wants to know is how Scar got around to killing the Rockbells when they were also helping his own people. It just doesn't seem right. Maybe Roy really killed them but the military uses Scar as a sort of scapegoat? Who knows...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:22 pm


I think that in the manga it was only Scar trying to protect his brother. And, Winry could get no revenge on a dead man... so he took the blame for it...

I also think that there is a small chance it will be brought up again... Winry seems to be at a calm about it now...

*shrug* But, hey, that is my opinion.

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kikyo98

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:42 pm


StrawberrieIceCream
kikyo98
I already knew that Roy wasn't a bad person, even after he killed Winry's parents. I mean, c'mon....you could see him struggling to kill them. He was like...holding the gun and giving the expression, "omg....what have i done?!!?" after he shot that.


Yeah, it's just that I was trying to reiterate things again. Sorry if what I said sounded wrong. sweatdrop Well, not only was he all freaking out, but he attempted suicide too... Ah, seeing Roy broken like that is so much fun. Probably because I love the angst. sweatdrop sweatdrop But what I (and everyone else) really wants to know is how Scar got around to killing the Rockbells when they were also helping his own people. It just doesn't seem right. Maybe Roy really killed them but the military uses Scar as a sort of scapegoat? Who knows...


Well...like i said before....it may not be Scar...they only said that the killer had bandages on his face, and they could only make out a tattoo on the right arm. Maybe the killer was like...goin crazy or something...

Xx_Hawkeye_xX
I think that in the manga it was only Scar trying to protect his brother. And, Winry could get no revenge on a dead man... so he took the blame for it...

I also think that there is a small chance it will be brought up again... Winry seems to be at a calm about it now...

*shrug* But, hey, that is my opinion.


Yay!!! Someone else who thinks it's Scar's bro who killed Winry's parents!!!
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