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Dreadhawk

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:35 pm


4chan? I think you mean FAILchan, HA!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:02 am


Silver Vermouth
I'm reading it, but all I see is Baaaaaaw. Get off your oldfag high horse and chill out. It's attitudes like this that throw us off target. When we finish with Chanology, we can go back to trolling each other (and the furries). If /b/ doesn't want to show, they don't have to, though to be fair, we are getting a large amount of support from the *chans. You're opinions are duly noted, thank you for speaking your mind. At least we don't fair game each other (unless it's funny).

Okay, here's my point in a nutshell:

Chanology zealots: Purpose: Taking down an evil cult. Reason: The internets are serious business.

*chans, Ebaums, etc. (Anonymous): Purpose: Trolling a ripe target. Reason: The internets are not serious business.

That's what it boils down to. I don't want conflict, but there will be a reckoning if we try to keep Chanology attached to Anonymous.

@Dreadhawk: Imma bust ya aTWO new pieholes. scream

SHAMGAR LOL
Crew


The 17th Wraith

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:12 pm


SHAMGAR LOL
The 17th Wraith
SHAMGAR LOL
The 17th Wraith
I believe if we want to get it done and expose the inner working sof the church, we can't stay sporadic and unorganized. how can a bunch of people that won't organize take down something as organized as a church? yes, we may be betraying the roots of Anonymous, but it doesn't mean its in a bad way. its human nature to adapt, and thats what Anonymous is doing, we're adapting to make ourselves better. to take down an organized corporate body, we must be organized. I hate to compare it to war, but its the only thing I can think of that will work. an organized army will 9 times out of 10 beat an unorganized one. we are the guerillas(sp?), and Co$ is the organized army. we are organized against and orginization, and we can win, but we must not revert to being just sporadic groups that have no real unification other than the internet. this convention and the protests are what we need, and I believe the rest of Anonymous needs to see that this is our best course of action, not something to condemn

Actually, we do need more organization. I don't want us to be a bunch of idiots milling around with no sense of direction. But actually, less organized armies kick the s**t out of organized ones. I mean, look at the Revolutionary War.

While I see your point, I strongly feel that this is neither the best course of action nor one that meshes with the soul of Anonymous. However, I suppose what was meant to happen will happen. We shall see, my friend.


the Revolutionary War fits under what I said, the early Americans used guerilla warfare to beat the English. and it really says a lot about the rest of Anonymous if they're more worried about us not being part of them than they are about taking down the Co$, and the core philosophy of Anonymous has changed in my opinion. we used to be about doing things illegaly and just for laughs, where as now we're about seriously taking down the illegal activities of the Co$ in legal ways. I think we should all be happy we have other people that want to help, not bitching about whether we're part of the same group or not. wouldn't you rather have allies to help than fighting over whether they are the same as you?

No, you said we would be less effective as a guerrilla army. Also, it does say a lot about the rest of Anon. We're a confederation of apathetic jerks and trolls. This whole Chanology thing started because someone saw the Co$ and saw a ripe target for trolling. At the conception, none of us gave a s**t about helping people. You have taken to heart a nonexistent philosophy, and if you think Anonymous is a bunch of pussies who do things the legal way you are sorely mistaken. Anon is about destroying anyone and everyone who pisses Anon off, and you Chanology zealots sure as hell do.

Anon will never be about helping people. If it ever becomes about that, it will no longer be Anon, just a bunch of f*****t pussies calling themselves that. The real Anons will just go make another group and then destroy you all for daring to cross them.

However, it doesn't have to be that way. Anon still wants to troll the ******** out of the Co$, and it seems our goals are aligned, if not our motives. Conflict can and will be avoided if you simply realize that Anon is, was, and always will be a bunch of "bad guys" (by your standards, anyway). Otherwise, Chanology-Anon conflict will be inevitable. Don't be the one to let that happen.

@Silver: You've got me all wrong. I have not once told you not to have a Chanology convention. However, very few if any real Anonymous will attend. I do hope you fill up all 200 spots, though, and I wish you the very best of luck. Also, I never called you my personal army, and I never told you what to do. I simply alerted you to the potential consequences of your current course of action. I never claimed to be your leader, or even superior to you. In fact, your responses lead me to suspect that you are not actually reading anything I type.


ok, I concede the point, though I did not mean it the way I said now that I re-read it. I also don't see you guys as "bad guys" either, rather I see you as a bunch of people that don't suffer fools and do things for yourselves and only for others if you feel like it. hell, I'd probably be a part of you guys if I had more computer and hacker knowledge, but alas I don't. I would actually like to be part of the original Anonymous if somebody could help me figure out everything, though I doubt that will happen, because like you said, Anon is about trolling and being a general pain in the a**(no offense meant). and just because somebody wants to help somebody doesn't make them a p***y or a f*****t. helping somebody can use Anons tactics, i.e. smearing their reputation, hacking them, and so on. its what I do when people need me help with somebody bothering them

@ Dreadhawk: ya keep up the infighting and I'ma help him rip ya both new pieholes
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:19 pm


The 17th Wraith
SHAMGAR LOL
The 17th Wraith
SHAMGAR LOL
The 17th Wraith
I believe if we want to get it done and expose the inner working sof the church, we can't stay sporadic and unorganized. how can a bunch of people that won't organize take down something as organized as a church? yes, we may be betraying the roots of Anonymous, but it doesn't mean its in a bad way. its human nature to adapt, and thats what Anonymous is doing, we're adapting to make ourselves better. to take down an organized corporate body, we must be organized. I hate to compare it to war, but its the only thing I can think of that will work. an organized army will 9 times out of 10 beat an unorganized one. we are the guerillas(sp?), and Co$ is the organized army. we are organized against and orginization, and we can win, but we must not revert to being just sporadic groups that have no real unification other than the internet. this convention and the protests are what we need, and I believe the rest of Anonymous needs to see that this is our best course of action, not something to condemn

Actually, we do need more organization. I don't want us to be a bunch of idiots milling around with no sense of direction. But actually, less organized armies kick the s**t out of organized ones. I mean, look at the Revolutionary War.

While I see your point, I strongly feel that this is neither the best course of action nor one that meshes with the soul of Anonymous. However, I suppose what was meant to happen will happen. We shall see, my friend.


the Revolutionary War fits under what I said, the early Americans used guerilla warfare to beat the English. and it really says a lot about the rest of Anonymous if they're more worried about us not being part of them than they are about taking down the Co$, and the core philosophy of Anonymous has changed in my opinion. we used to be about doing things illegaly and just for laughs, where as now we're about seriously taking down the illegal activities of the Co$ in legal ways. I think we should all be happy we have other people that want to help, not bitching about whether we're part of the same group or not. wouldn't you rather have allies to help than fighting over whether they are the same as you?

No, you said we would be less effective as a guerrilla army. Also, it does say a lot about the rest of Anon. We're a confederation of apathetic jerks and trolls. This whole Chanology thing started because someone saw the Co$ and saw a ripe target for trolling. At the conception, none of us gave a s**t about helping people. You have taken to heart a nonexistent philosophy, and if you think Anonymous is a bunch of pussies who do things the legal way you are sorely mistaken. Anon is about destroying anyone and everyone who pisses Anon off, and you Chanology zealots sure as hell do.

Anon will never be about helping people. If it ever becomes about that, it will no longer be Anon, just a bunch of f*****t pussies calling themselves that. The real Anons will just go make another group and then destroy you all for daring to cross them.

However, it doesn't have to be that way. Anon still wants to troll the ******** out of the Co$, and it seems our goals are aligned, if not our motives. Conflict can and will be avoided if you simply realize that Anon is, was, and always will be a bunch of "bad guys" (by your standards, anyway). Otherwise, Chanology-Anon conflict will be inevitable. Don't be the one to let that happen.

@Silver: You've got me all wrong. I have not once told you not to have a Chanology convention. However, very few if any real Anonymous will attend. I do hope you fill up all 200 spots, though, and I wish you the very best of luck. Also, I never called you my personal army, and I never told you what to do. I simply alerted you to the potential consequences of your current course of action. I never claimed to be your leader, or even superior to you. In fact, your responses lead me to suspect that you are not actually reading anything I type.


ok, I concede the point, though I did not mean it the way I said now that I re-read it. I also don't see you guys as "bad guys" either, rather I see you as a bunch of people that don't suffer fools and do things for yourselves and only for others if you feel like it. hell, I'd probably be a part of you guys if I had more computer and hacker knowledge, but alas I don't. I would actually like to be part of the original Anonymous if somebody could help me figure out everything, though I doubt that will happen, because like you said, Anon is about trolling and being a general pain in the a**(no offense meant). and just because somebody wants to help somebody doesn't make them a p***y or a f*****t. helping somebody can use Anons tactics, i.e. smearing their reputation, hacking them, and so on. its what I do when people need me help with somebody bothering them

@ Dreadhawk: ya keep up the infighting and I'ma help him rip ya both new pieholes


Lol, I'm not fighting anyone, simply watching from the sidelines as I've always done.
I lurked 4chan for 5+ years.
Was there when it began, was there when it died, 3 times.
Even talked to mootykins over the phone.

As for the argument here, tl;dr.

Dreadhawk


The 17th Wraith

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:35 pm


whatever, I just hate infighting. it never serves a purpose and it always harms
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:11 pm


Yeah. I'm mainly concerned about keeping the Anonymous name attached to Chanology. You know I love you guys, though.

SHAMGAR LOL
Crew


The 17th Wraith

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:21 pm


is it cause we're good for teh lulz?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:53 pm


Yeah.

SHAMGAR LOL
Crew


The 17th Wraith

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:00 pm


at least we're good for something XD
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:17 pm


You're all for graet justice. Don't get discouraged.

SHAMGAR LOL
Crew


The 17th Wraith

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:26 pm


I'm not, its just hard to keep my morale up when the closest place to me to protest is 4 hours away and I don't have any money to do anything else
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:34 pm


So be on Enturbulation helping get protest vids on YouTube. There's something for everyone.

SHAMGAR LOL
Crew


The 17th Wraith

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:40 pm


I've been meaning to go, so nows as good a time as any
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:04 pm


Not bad, but you can't beat Lulzcon for sheer awesomeness.

Cyanide Tastes Bad


Death_Tap
Captain

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:35 am


Lulzcon. There's a distinct right to that.

Oh, and watch out for May 5th.

On TV.

Hopefully.

If not, it will be in the papers.

Anon is taking srs bisness to Serious Business.

I wish I could say more, but that's all I'm allowed to give out. Just prepare for epic... pwnage.
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