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Beretta Grimm

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:04 am


Excuse me if I come off as rude, but Duae; who are you? I can't find your post in the introduction thread, is Duae your username on DoA as well?

You sound a bit biased, and a bit like you're in here to try to start a fight - your posts aren't debatable, they're accusative and not in relation to the subject.

While DoA may be flawed and some of it's functions not fitting to everyone's tastes, it is the biggest western ABJD forum, with a gargantuan database of information, and they're mostly kind to new members, incredible much?! There are strict "non-bitching" rules there, but that also means people can actually navigate and learn about the hobby without having to deal with other people's pointless internet drama.

And, just for the record, society also exists only because of the people in it, but that doesn't mean they don't have to respect laws and rules, even if they disagree with them.

I might just be ranting at a wall, but something about the way you expressed those opinions really struck a nerve in me, and I apologize if I appear to be victimizing you out of thin air. Just as you demand of Elle I would like for you to explain your views in some other way than snide one-liners.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:21 am


Beretta Grimm
Excuse me if I come off as rude, but Duae; who are you? I can't find your post in the introduction thread, is Duae your username on DoA as well?

You sound a bit biased, and a bit like you're in here to try to start a fight - your posts aren't debatable, they're accusative and not in relation to the subject.


Duae is my username everywhere, DoA, Resinality, BJDIllusion, etc. I also was not meaning to come off as rude, simply to state facts. The banner ad information is what I got when a friend went to sign up for ad space and stopped when she saw the prices, and forwarded the information on to me. No it's not really debatable because go, get information on signing up for banner ad space and you get that info.

Also I was just trying to fully understand the 'lower quality' thing. What are they judging as the quality that is lower? Just a general 'low quality' sounds scary and like a good debate point, but it doesn't actually mean anything unless you can explain. Is it that the packaging is lower quality? The customer service? There are lots of points to judge BJDs on.

Beretta Grimm
While DoA may be flawed and some of it's functions not fitting to everyone's tastes, it is the biggest western ABJD forum, with a gargantuan database of information, and they're mostly kind to new members, incredible much?! There are strict "non-bitching" rules there, but that also means people can actually navigate and learn about the hobby without having to deal with other people's pointless internet drama.


They also start drama, like the time the mod made the pro-KKK banner as a joke.


Beretta Grimm
And, just for the record, society also exists only because of the people in it, but that doesn't mean they don't have to respect laws and rules, even if they disagree with them.

I might just be ranting at a wall, but something about the way you expressed those opinions really struck a nerve in me, and I apologize if I appear to be victimizing you out of thin air. Just as you demand of Elle I would like for you to explain your views in some other way than snide one-liners.


I will be happy to explain. I just wanted to point out that rules mean nothing unless there are people to follow them, and that generally if a forum makes a rule that enough people disagree with, the forum suffers.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:02 pm


I'm talking about the sculpting.

I'll use this one as an example:
making this thing.

This does not apply to all the furry dolls, but not all the furry dolls are going to be off-topic.



What I don't get Duae is why you stand behind that baseless argument.
DoA is a private forum, just because it is supported partially by ads, does not give the sponsors any say in the way it's run.
And whining about how the forum is a dictatorship or the mods being unfair will not get you far. The best way to show you're unhappy is to stop going there and find a new community.
If the forum is really suffering like you say it is, then it will only truly show when the unhappy members leave for somewhere else.

But then, we are somewhere else so I will stop preaching.




I'm ducking out now.
I was really glad when I missed the anthro debate @ DoA, and I'd really rather not see this thread go the same unfortunate path.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:38 am


I don't go there anymore. I got lazy.

I do know though that they are VERY strict with their rules, as compared to some sites I've been to.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:04 pm


I don't particularly care for all of the pussyfooting you have to do on DoA, but it's really up to the mods what they want to have and don't want to have on their forum.
We're not paying for it, so we really don't have much say in the matter.

Also, the ad prices don't seem very outlandish to me. Servers are expensive.
If you also consider the amount of traffic that the person who placed the ad will probably get from DoA, they'll make the money that they spent placing the ad back in no time.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:04 pm


I don't really care much for DoA, they're really too strict on their happiness only policy, but seem to let some things go depending on how popular you are there. Their ideas of whats on/off topic is weird to say the least, but it's a forum about a specific thing, so some guidelines need to be set. It's like trying to sell snails on the Oscar fish forum I used to be part of.
I usually go there for the resources it provides everyone in the hobby. There are the databases, marketplace, and various tutorials and bits of information that you can't find anywhere else. I especially love the marketplace. Two of my dolls are second hand, and one of them is limited, so it's not like I could have gotten her straight from the company since they came out before I was into dolls. There are some things that aren't quite agreeable in there, but it's become necessary.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:49 am


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Actually, I am disappointed for a different reason.

So many links from the main stickies to a regular thread in at least 3 subforums that I've been in,( 'Larger Dolls', 'Anthro', and ESPECIALLY the 'Painting/ Customizing/ Esthetic') are DEAD! Missing, 404 errors, etc

If they delete a thread that is linked from a Sticky, they should fix it.

It seems like they NEVER update there Stickies and they are practically useless.

I am new to the bjd community, but NOT new to forums, and it makes it very difficult to not seem like a complete no0b when you STILL have to make a thread to try to find what you are looking for >_<

I have also tried the search, even the advanced Search, but there is much to be desired in that area also.

/ rant




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:35 pm


Duae
I would like to argue to common 'well it's their forum' No, it is NOT. It is their server, but it's the people who make a forum.
No no, it's their forum. If they delete the forum, all the members in the world won't do a damn bit of good.

DoA has bits I don't like, just like DoD, Resinality, and every forum seems to have bits I don't like. You can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time. That's life.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:22 am


I always figure, it you hate it THAT much, then don't go to it. That goes for all forums. people complain about Gaia all the time. It's like either leave or offer to do something about it.

While there I things I don't like about DoA, after my rant I felt much better and instead of just hating it, I think I might consider asking to help clean up the Stickies or some sort of low-level mod position over there.

As for who "makes" it, both the mods and the people make it. One without the other would just be dumb lol
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:27 pm


I'm Syryn on DoA to be honest, I've never had a problem with them, I've never been disspapointed in them, though becqause they are such a big community I do find it hard to not get noticed, but well, make friends better or feel like a tight knit community. For that I use Angels Unlimited, same user name because thats just for the UK so I find more aboiut local meets, but for news and the likes I stick with DOA

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:18 pm


I'm not dissappointed with DoA at all. I love going there but the community disappoints me. My dolls are hardly ever commented on. It's always popular molds that get attention and popluar storymakers. I get maybe 3 or 4 comments then my thread dies. I understand Dream of Doll and Dollzone may not have as "cute" a mold as say minifee. But they are still just as good to me. I guess maybe because I don't post a lot. But still, I notice people shove other companies to the side if they aren't, "cute." Everyone's perception of cute is different. I have to say a lot of people say my Dream of Doll is adoreable in person. They love him and they love my Dollzone as well. >< I just hate how ignored they are on that community.

Btw on DoA I'm StandaloneHIMFan123.
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:22 pm


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I am really supportive of them making the anthro dolls off topic. It's really getting crazy how many companies are jumping the anthro bandwagon, and a lot of times they are not as high quality as other dolls in the hobby.


That doesn't make sense to me, though. Low quality has nothing to do with the fact that they're being considered off-topic. The rules say nothing about that. AoD dolls aren't wonderful quality, either, but they're on topic. Plus the fact that just because it's becoming a bandwagon trend doesn't mean they should be considered off topic, either. I guess in a nutshell, I don't understand nor agree with your reasonings - but an opinion is an opinion, and that's yours.

Anyway - Sorry for not being here for a while. I took a bit of a break from Gaia. But as I was saying.. I really do agree with a lot of the points made here. I'll elaborate more later - I need to go to bed. XD But in a nutshell, I definitely agree with updating the stickies, the large community, the sense of being ignored, the 'yay, everything is wonderful and if you don't think so then we'll lock your thread' policy, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:44 pm


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I'm not dissappointed with DoA at all. I love going there but the community disappoints me. My dolls are hardly ever commented on. It's always popular molds that get attention and popluar storymakers. I get maybe 3 or 4 comments then my thread dies. I understand Dream of Doll and Dollzone may not have as "cute" a mold as say minifee. But they are still just as good to me. I guess maybe because I don't post a lot. But still, I notice people shove other companies to the side if they aren't, "cute." Everyone's perception of cute is different. I have to say a lot of people say my Dream of Doll is adoreable in person. They love him and they love my Dollzone as well. >< I just hate how ignored they are on that community.

Btw on DoA I'm StandaloneHIMFan123.


I adore DOD boys, they are so beautiful!
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:49 pm


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I'm not dissappointed with DoA at all. I love going there but the community disappoints me. My dolls are hardly ever commented on. It's always popular molds that get attention and popluar storymakers. I get maybe 3 or 4 comments then my thread dies. I understand Dream of Doll and Dollzone may not have as "cute" a mold as say minifee. But they are still just as good to me. I guess maybe because I don't post a lot. But still, I notice people shove other companies to the side if they aren't, "cute." Everyone's perception of cute is different. I have to say a lot of people say my Dream of Doll is adoreable in person. They love him and they love my Dollzone as well. >< I just hate how ignored they are on that community.

Btw on DoA I'm StandaloneHIMFan123.


I adore DOD boys, they are so beautiful!
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Me too! *huggles Satsuki; my H. Ducan* Then again, I love pretty much all of DOD's dolls. xD


Anyway, more on topic...
I'm Kiri_Akurei on DoA and personally I like the community. I get along well with the people there and it's a great resource for me. I get along well will people over all, so maybe I just don't see it from the same point from view, but I don't see what might be so hard about being kind and holding back a bit there. If you're annoyed with someone and want to give them a piece of your mind do it eloquently[and without attacking the other person] or not at all.
But, that's just my opinion on the matter. [And I'm not saying it at anyone in particular, just in general.]

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:07 am


All my dolls are DOD DOCs, but it does seem to me that not a lot of people even look at my threads or DOD threads unless they are newer dolls.
Where's the love for Mir? Where?

I just seem to make it a point to comment mostly on DOD threads. A lot of people say DOD is cheap and too common but I say CP molds are just as common if not more, but they get lots more veiws and comments. D:

I'm just gonna keep getting DOCs! DOD POWER!
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