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Sorimoji

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:36 pm


I'm not trying to misinform, let me make this clear.

Sorimoji

most modern French horns play at a f-pitch with a Bb pitch key, whereas both trombone and flute are concert pitch instruments, the difference only in clefs, so sheet music wise trombone is easier.

Dr Grunbun
Bass clef and treble clef is a bigger difference than just a key.
It's easier to stay in the same clef.
I meant that French Horns play at an F-pitch with a valve (fourth valve, I think) to change the Horn to Bb pitch. And while it seems hard to change clef, note names are the same on flute and trombone, also considering that Trombone's tonic happens to be the F note marked by the clef sign, it would seem easier ( in my opinion) than learning the new notes names that you were familiar with before, for both F and Bb pitch.
Sorimoji
French Horn is the only instrument to have the bell facing the back (most brass have their bells facing foward) so you often need to play louder to be heard.

Dr Grunbun
AND you do not have to play louder to be heard, horns are loud as hell on their own. I find I play much too loud most of the time. If just takes LONGER for the sound to reach the audience.
While you are able to play loud enough already, my experience tells me otherwise. I know four French Horn players, each of different ability, that have all gotten complaints by the BD about not being heard. And while I see your point about resonance issue, Pretty much all instruments get affected by this this to a certain degree, especially in large chambers or auditoriums. Now since my band doesn't rehearse in such a room, this is not such a problem until competition. In blonde_n_proud's case, I'd worry more about that if I were playing Euphonium/Baritone(there is a difference in the two).
Dr Grunbun
ALSO, Horns can play as low as BARITONE TROMBONES.

Sorimoji
though if you practice, a trombonist can reach the higher range, though I've never heard a French horn that can go low.
*Sigh* Read again, please. And unless that is a different name for either a Soprano or Alto Trombone(doubt those), Tenor(most common), Bass, or Contrabass Trombone, a baritone Trombone does not exist.
Dr Grunbun
And it is much harder to get the right notes on Horn. If your embouchre is a little messed up, or you're a little off, you can get a completely different note. On all other brass instruments, being off a little just toots out a weird squawk noise. What you need to worry about on Trombone is staying in tune in your positions, but it's just as hard to keep in pitch on horn, since it's all done with your MOUTH.
I don't understand what your problem is here, this is precisely one of the reasons I said why blonde_n_proud should play Trombone here:
Sorimoji
Trombone has a slide, so you can't just hit a key or valve and get an in tune note. You need to know where to put the slide, which can change depending on temperature, place you're playing, and the note you are playing. Having perfect pitch helps, though not required. Ultimately you need to put a note where it sounds good. Luckily, there are only seven positions, and instead of learning a combination of keys for a note, you just need to know one position for a note. When you go higher in range, you really just use the first three positions anyway. You don't need a long arm to play, though to play complex music, you need fast reflexes and/ or wrist/eye coordination
You can skip all that extra mouth-work and just do it on the slide(no, that's not a sexual joke all you perverted-minded people out there)...

Now, I would have assumed you simply misunderstood my post, Dr.Grunbun, but...
Dr Grunbun
Do some research next time. Do you even play an instrument? Are you in 8th grade, or just a trombone-thumper?

and...
Dr Grunbun

That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard.


What this is is the biggest Gaia T.O.S. violation I have ever seen. This libelous post is immature, overly aggressive, and totally uncalled for. Try talking these things out before hopping up on a soap box.
Now, before you try and lash out at me again, PM me if you think my post is factually incorrect. These posts can edited, you know.

Oh, and
Dr Grunbun
IMO: Don't play either instrument in the band anytime soon. They're hard to just pick up and start, especially from a flute. You'll get frustrated a lot. =3

Don't tell her not to switch instruments because it's too hard and she'll get frustrated! blonde_n_proud knows this already, but is clearly willing to work for it if she wants it! Shame!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:16 pm


the trombone is the perfect instrument and trombone players are perfect haha kidding (mostly) on the latter

as for your decision, it really depends on what your looking to play

if you prefer jazz or big band style music trombone is the way to go

if you prefer concert or orchestra pieces the horn gets more playing time

it also has a lot to do with what sound you want, if your looking for a higher tone go with the horn, which has a variety of mouthpieces that can effect your lower or higher pitches

the tenor trombone can play as high as the horn if the player is good but that takes A LOT of work, the tenor trombone is also very good for mid range notes

if you like the lower sounds play bass trombone it's an amazing instrument but difficult to learn because it has the 7 slide positions and 2 different thumb key attachments

for both instruments the mouth piece, the horn, and the player have a lot to do with the sound, the amount of practice required for both is tremendous so be prepared.

any questions on what horn or mouthpiece to get let me know i'll help out in any way i can biggrin

SDwrestler2008


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:43 pm


French Horn > all
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:55 pm


I'd say French Horn if your up to a challenge and trombone if your not really, I play French Horn and i have for... three years and for a year of that i was the only player so if your really self confident and opinioned you'd be a good Horn player. It is a difficult instrument to learn though . my director who taught me how to play told me that it is the hardest to play because you have to be very precise to get the correct notes, between the embechure(sp?) and fingering it gets tough no matter how simple it seems  

Mystyc_Dragon


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:18 pm


i say the horn lol
PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:32 pm


i say stick with the flute but thats just me, and if i had to choose i would choose the horn because it's the trombone is harder to march with. smile

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