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 Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:58 pm
HistoryWak Arvis_Jaggamar HistoryWak Sucks for the people who put money into it. Oh, who gives a crap about them? Those people have money to burn. When do you guys think we'll see a Microsoft Blu-Ray add-on for the 360? Toshiba is already working on their own Blu-Ray player. I mean the everyday people who bought players and movies and such. Not the companies. I don't have sympathy for them or any for that matter. talk2hand Oh. ... Well, good. And yeah, it sucks for the consumers, but there never should have been a format war to begin with. The products were not all that different, they both did the exact same thing, the only difference being that one was cheaper (in every aspect of the word) and simply less capable. HD DVD's main weakness was that it was obsolete the second it was released. If the consumer (or movie studio, for that matter) had done the research, they wouldn't necessarily be saddled with a dead format. As someone who, all Sony bias aside, simply cannot fathom why anyone anywhere would ever prefer HD-DVD to Blu Ray, I have a hard time feeling sorry for these people.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:17 pm
Wait a minute, Toshiba is also putting out a Blu-ray player as well?
That, oh, THAT is the icing on the cake. mrgreen
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:17 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:19 am
rofl That's going in my sig.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:24 am
Scary how well an animated gif so completely sums up this stupid format war. Excellent work, SuperJawes! mrgreen
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:18 am
I don't feel bad for any consumer who bought HD DVD.
Those people got a lesson.
You should always do research before you reach for your wallet.
And in this case, research meant 5 minutes with Google.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:15 am
Arvis_Jaggamar Scary how well an animated gif so completely sums up this stupid format war. Excellent work, SuperJawes! mrgreen Actually, excellent work StumbleUpon... And I still have gotten no work done!
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:46 am
Ace Paladin I don't feel bad for any consumer who bought HD DVD.
Those people got a lesson.
You should always do research before you reach for your wallet.
And in this case, research meant 5 minutes with Google. True but that just shows once again I have more of a heart than you. wink I still feel bad regardless. Anyway, no one should have been buying anything until the war was over. Even though one was clearly better than the other, anything could have happened to make either one of them win or lose. I said from day one people shouldn't be buying HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players (PS3 excluded) or movies until the war is over. But there are people who want to be on top with the new tech when it comes out before they know whether or not it will take hold. They must have the newest gadget out there. I'm the type of consumer who won't jump into something new till I know it's not going to go obsolete very shortly. Do you agree? PS: Just because something is technologically better don't mean it should win or does win. In this case it did win. There have been other format wars in the past in which the more technological format lost. For example the Hi-Fi CD format war of DVD-Audio and SACD with also HDCD. I actually own all three of these different formats. The main difference between HDCD and the other two are it's smaller bit rate and cheaper price. You need a certain player to get full advantage of SACD and it is quite expensive. I like HDCD best. I can actually hear a sound improvement over regular CDs without using a special player and it costs the same price as a regular CD and you don't need a special player. It even holds double the songs as a regualar CD. Yet it don't have as much storage as a SACD. SACD won the war between them and DVD-A. There's as HDCD releases as SACDs (but are released as CD-hybrids. Neither one has taken over for CD. They all co-exist right now. I personally find HDCD to be most practical out of them even though others rival it in technology. Practicality is just as important if not more important than being technologically better. In this case with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray it wasn't really an issue..
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:22 pm
HistoryWak Ace Paladin I don't feel bad for any consumer who bought HD DVD.
Those people got a lesson.
You should always do research before you reach for your wallet.
And in this case, research meant 5 minutes with Google. True but that just shows once again I have more of a heart than you. wink I still feel bad regardless. Anyway, no one should have been buying anything until the war was over. Even though one was clearly better than the other, anything could have happened to make either one of them win or lose. I said from day one people shouldn't be buying HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players (PS3 excluded) or movies until the war is over. But there are people who want to be on top with the new tech when it comes out before they know whether or not it will take hold. They must have the newest gadget out there. I'm the type of consumer who won't jump into something new till I know it's not going to go obsolete very shortly. Do you agree? PS: Just because something is technologically better don't mean it should win or does win. In this case it did win. There have been other format wars in the past in which the more technological format lost. For example the Hi-Fi CD format war of DVD-Audio and SACD with also HDCD. I actually own all three of these different formats. The main difference between HDCD and the other two are it's smaller bit rate and cheaper price. You need a certain player to get full advantage of SACD and it is quite expensive. I like HDCD best. I can actually hear a sound improvement over regular CDs without using a special player and it costs the same price as a regular CD and you don't need a special player. It even holds double the songs as a regualar CD. Yet it don't have as much storage as a SACD. SACD won the war between them and DVD-A. There's as HDCD releases as SACDs (but are released as CD-hybrids. Neither one has taken over for CD. They all co-exist right now. I personally find HDCD to be most practical out of them even though others rival it in technology. Practicality is just as important if not more important than being technologically better. In this case with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray it wasn't really an issue.. Wak, let me ask you this....how can there be a war when there are no soldiers? If there are no consumers buying either...both formats fail. One has to have advantage in sales for the "war" to be over. The consumers ultimately decide the outcome just like soldiers do wars.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:46 pm
Canis Lupus the LoneWolf HistoryWak Ace Paladin I don't feel bad for any consumer who bought HD DVD.
Those people got a lesson.
You should always do research before you reach for your wallet.
And in this case, research meant 5 minutes with Google. True but that just shows once again I have more of a heart than you. wink I still feel bad regardless. Anyway, no one should have been buying anything until the war was over. Even though one was clearly better than the other, anything could have happened to make either one of them win or lose. I said from day one people shouldn't be buying HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players (PS3 excluded) or movies until the war is over. But there are people who want to be on top with the new tech when it comes out before they know whether or not it will take hold. They must have the newest gadget out there. I'm the type of consumer who won't jump into something new till I know it's not going to go obsolete very shortly. Do you agree? PS: Just because something is technologically better don't mean it should win or does win. In this case it did win. There have been other format wars in the past in which the more technological format lost. For example the Hi-Fi CD format war of DVD-Audio and SACD with also HDCD. I actually own all three of these different formats. The main difference between HDCD and the other two are it's smaller bit rate and cheaper price. You need a certain player to get full advantage of SACD and it is quite expensive. I like HDCD best. I can actually hear a sound improvement over regular CDs without using a special player and it costs the same price as a regular CD and you don't need a special player. It even holds double the songs as a regualar CD. Yet it don't have as much storage as a SACD. SACD won the war between them and DVD-A. There's as HDCD releases as SACDs (but are released as CD-hybrids. Neither one has taken over for CD. They all co-exist right now. I personally find HDCD to be most practical out of them even though others rival it in technology. Practicality is just as important if not more important than being technologically better. In this case with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray it wasn't really an issue.. Wak, let me ask you this....how can there be a war when there are no soldiers? If there are no consumers buying either...both formats fail. One has to have advantage in sales for the "war" to be over. The consumers ultimately decide the outcome just like soldiers do wars. True, it's a shame they spent the money for nothing. There was no way of knowing for sure who was going to win. They basically took a risk. Both sides took a risk because anything could have happened.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:50 pm
HistoryWak Canis Lupus the LoneWolf HistoryWak Ace Paladin I don't feel bad for any consumer who bought HD DVD.
Those people got a lesson.
You should always do research before you reach for your wallet.
And in this case, research meant 5 minutes with Google. True but that just shows once again I have more of a heart than you. wink I still feel bad regardless. Anyway, no one should have been buying anything until the war was over. Even though one was clearly better than the other, anything could have happened to make either one of them win or lose. I said from day one people shouldn't be buying HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players (PS3 excluded) or movies until the war is over. But there are people who want to be on top with the new tech when it comes out before they know whether or not it will take hold. They must have the newest gadget out there. I'm the type of consumer who won't jump into something new till I know it's not going to go obsolete very shortly. Do you agree? PS: Just because something is technologically better don't mean it should win or does win. In this case it did win. There have been other format wars in the past in which the more technological format lost. For example the Hi-Fi CD format war of DVD-Audio and SACD with also HDCD. I actually own all three of these different formats. The main difference between HDCD and the other two are it's smaller bit rate and cheaper price. You need a certain player to get full advantage of SACD and it is quite expensive. I like HDCD best. I can actually hear a sound improvement over regular CDs without using a special player and it costs the same price as a regular CD and you don't need a special player. It even holds double the songs as a regualar CD. Yet it don't have as much storage as a SACD. SACD won the war between them and DVD-A. There's as HDCD releases as SACDs (but are released as CD-hybrids. Neither one has taken over for CD. They all co-exist right now. I personally find HDCD to be most practical out of them even though others rival it in technology. Practicality is just as important if not more important than being technologically better. In this case with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray it wasn't really an issue.. Wak, let me ask you this....how can there be a war when there are no soldiers? If there are no consumers buying either...both formats fail. One has to have advantage in sales for the "war" to be over. The consumers ultimately decide the outcome just like soldiers do wars. True, it's a shame they spent the money for nothing. There was no way of knowing for sure who was going to win. They basically took a risk. Both sides took a risk because anything could have happened. Touche. Even then, LG still plans on continuing to make hybrid Blu-ray/HD-DVD players...so that's something good for HD-DVD consumers.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:52 pm
Whoo..I don't care really. Blu-Ray is really the future for gaming now. More space = less discs and more game. They could make MGS4 into an epic two Blu-Ray discs game. Whoo all those cut scenes. Yum. <3
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:12 pm
Well, guys. I found this to be interesting. Um,yeah. I voted just regular DVD. You don't always get that option. gonk
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:16 am
l Xera Kaiba l Whoo..I don't care really. Blu-Ray is really the future for gaming now. More space = less discs and more game. They could make MGS4 into an epic two Blu-Ray discs game. Whoo all those cut scenes. Yum. <3 I hate an overabundance of cut scenes. talk2hand When I can press start to bypass them I do. xD
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:20 am
HistoryWak l Xera Kaiba l Whoo..I don't care really. Blu-Ray is really the future for gaming now. More space = less discs and more game. They could make MGS4 into an epic two Blu-Ray discs game. Whoo all those cut scenes. Yum. <3 I hate an overabundance of cut scenes. talk2hand When I can press start to bypass them I do. xD Reminds me of the cutscenes in Super Paper Mario. They hive no purpose at all. Oh, yeah. I rented Super Paper Mario, and I'm not impressed.
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