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 Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:22 pm
-Sunset Wahine- Just remember there is a difference between joy and happiness. HAppiness come from THIS WORLD and IT'S PLEASURES. Joy comes from a Supernatural touch through Christ. Being crucified with Christ is simply a means of dying to your self and old things have past away. umm was that meant to answer my above question about what happens when you get uncrusiffied because that didn't really answer my question.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:25 pm
-Sunset Wahine- And well we are cursed through Adam and Eve's mistake. But Adam and Eve were human. God didn't want us to be made into ROBOTS. Quote: what do you mean? are you saying Adam and Eve were Robots? Also remember that the Gospel is straightforward. It shows you your sins and all your wrongdoings. It convicts and brings shame. It sure brought shame to me, only Jesus can bring a change! And I just love God. Quote: Well Yea I pretty much know that remember my post about conducting research on evangelism.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:27 pm
Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Just remember there is a difference between joy and happiness. HAppiness come from THIS WORLD and IT'S PLEASURES. Joy comes from a Supernatural touch through Christ. Being crucified with Christ is simply a means of dying to your self and old things have past away. umm was that meant to answer my above question about what happens when you get uncrusiffied because that didn't really answer my question. Well alright. If you mean uncrucified as to going back into sin, then sin can eat us alive. To turn your back on God is to go your own way. You're either for God or against God. Once you turn away from God, your soul is open to the devil.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:31 pm
Let me say this I'm not saying these things because I'm an anti-religionists or because I have some sort of hatred toward christianity, but just things I've experienced, and have come to understand through deep thinking.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:32 pm
Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- And well we are cursed through Adam and Eve's mistake. But Adam and Eve were human. God didn't want us to be made into ROBOTS. Quote: what do you mean? are you saying Adam and Eve were Robots? Quote: I mean that God didn't want us to be controlled like Robots in everything we do. We learn our own lessons sometimes, which is a good thing. One bad decision may lead to another. Also remember that the Gospel is straightforward. It shows you your sins and all your wrongdoings. It convicts and brings shame. It sure brought shame to me, only Jesus can bring a change! And I just love God. Quote: Well Yea I pretty much know that remember my post about conducting research on evangelism.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:33 pm
-Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Just remember there is a difference between joy and happiness. HAppiness come from THIS WORLD and IT'S PLEASURES. Joy comes from a Supernatural touch through Christ. Being crucified with Christ is simply a means of dying to your self and old things have past away. umm was that meant to answer my above question about what happens when you get uncrusiffied because that didn't really answer my question. Well alright. If you mean uncrucified as to going back into sin, then sin can eat us alive. To turn your back on God is to go your own way. You're either for God or against God. Once you turn away from God, your soul is open to the devil. Tell me does the Bible really say your for GOD or against GOD? and also this would ultimately mean hell then right?
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:37 pm
Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Just remember there is a difference between joy and happiness. HAppiness come from THIS WORLD and IT'S PLEASURES. Joy comes from a Supernatural touch through Christ. Being crucified with Christ is simply a means of dying to your self and old things have past away. umm was that meant to answer my above question about what happens when you get uncrusiffied because that didn't really answer my question. Well alright. If you mean uncrucified as to going back into sin, then sin can eat us alive. To turn your back on God is to go your own way. You're either for God or against God. Once you turn away from God, your soul is open to the devil. Tell me does the Bible really say your for GOD or against GOD? and also this would ultimately mean hell then right? In that term I meant you are either of the world or of God.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:41 pm
-Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Just remember there is a difference between joy and happiness. HAppiness come from THIS WORLD and IT'S PLEASURES. Joy comes from a Supernatural touch through Christ. Being crucified with Christ is simply a means of dying to your self and old things have past away. umm was that meant to answer my above question about what happens when you get uncrusiffied because that didn't really answer my question. Well alright. If you mean uncrucified as to going back into sin, then sin can eat us alive. To turn your back on God is to go your own way. You're either for God or against God. Once you turn away from God, your soul is open to the devil. Tell me does the Bible really say your for GOD or against GOD? and also this would ultimately mean hell then right? In that term I meant you are either of the world or of God. That makes more sense, however you still did not answer the last part of my question?
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:44 pm
Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Just remember there is a difference between joy and happiness. HAppiness come from THIS WORLD and IT'S PLEASURES. Joy comes from a Supernatural touch through Christ. Being crucified with Christ is simply a means of dying to your self and old things have past away. umm was that meant to answer my above question about what happens when you get uncrusiffied because that didn't really answer my question. Well alright. If you mean uncrucified as to going back into sin, then sin can eat us alive. To turn your back on God is to go your own way. You're either for God or against God. Once you turn away from God, your soul is open to the devil. Tell me does the Bible really say your for GOD or against GOD? and also this would ultimately mean hell then right? In that term I meant you are either of the world or of God. That makes more sense, however you still did not answer the last part of my question? Well, yeah. If you don't have Jesus, you can't make it toHeaven. It's about Jesus' love. It's not about doing good or what...
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:46 pm
John 12:25 (Whole Chapter)
The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
John 15:19 (Whole Chapter)
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:49 pm
James 4
Submit Yourselves to God
1What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you? 2You want something but don't get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God. 3When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
4You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. 5Or do you think Scripture says without reason that the spirit he caused to live in us envies intensely?[a] 6But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says:
"God opposes the proud
but gives grace to the humble."
Hoped this helped.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:50 pm
-Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Well alright. If you mean uncrucified as to going back into sin, then sin can eat us alive. To turn your back on God is to go your own way. You're either for God or against God. Once you turn away from God, your soul is open to the devil. Tell me does the Bible really say your for GOD or against GOD? and also this would ultimately mean hell then right? In that term I meant you are either of the world or of God. That makes more sense, however you still did not answer the last part of my question? Well, yeah. If you don't have Jesus, you can't make it toHeaven. It's about Jesus' love. It's not about doing good or what... Okay a couple more questions So then it could be said that once you accept Jesus there's a point where you could loose him or really choose not to follow him to the latter end and wined up in the Inferno correct? Also what do you mean it's about Jesus' love care to elaborate more on this?
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:55 pm
Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Well alright. If you mean uncrucified as to going back into sin, then sin can eat us alive. To turn your back on God is to go your own way. You're either for God or against God. Once you turn away from God, your soul is open to the devil. Tell me does the Bible really say your for GOD or against GOD? and also this would ultimately mean hell then right? In that term I meant you are either of the world or of God. That makes more sense, however you still did not answer the last part of my question? Well, yeah. If you don't have Jesus, you can't make it toHeaven. It's about Jesus' love. It's not about doing good or what... Okay a couple more questions So then it could be said that once you accept Jesus there's a point where you could loose him or really choose not to follow him to the latter end and wined up in the Inferno correct? Also what do you mean it's about Jesus' love care to elaborate more on this? Through God's love comes the fulfillment of salvation. Hell is just a consequence of our sins. We choose to live in sin and rebel against God's promises for our lives. In hell, we are forever seperated from God our Savior. And yes, it is possible to lose your salvation and relationship with God by going farther and farther away from Him. The more we sin, the colder and harder our hearts get.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:56 pm
-Sunset Wahine- James 4 Submit Yourselves to God 1What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you? 2You want something but don't get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God. 3When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. 4You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. 5Or do you think Scripture says without reason that the spirit he caused to live in us envies intensely?[a] 6But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."
Hoped this helped.not really, I already got the part about the whole you being with the world and being against GOD thing.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:58 pm
-Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- In that term I meant you are either of the world or of God. That makes more sense, however you still did not answer the last part of my question? Well, yeah. If you don't have Jesus, you can't make it toHeaven. It's about Jesus' love. It's not about doing good or what... Okay a couple more questions So then it could be said that once you accept Jesus there's a point where you could loose him or really choose not to follow him to the latter end and wined up in the Inferno correct? Also what do you mean it's about Jesus' love care to elaborate more on this? Through God's love comes the fulfillment of salvation. Hell is just a consequence of our sins. We choose to live in sin and rebel against God's promises for our lives. In hell, we are forever seperated from God our Savior. And yes, it is possible to lose your salvation and relationship with God by going farther and farther away from Him. The more we sin, the colder and harder our hearts get. Can you support this with concrete scriptures...then again I've also seen evidence that say otherwise I guess you really don't know till you reach the end of the race huh? EDIT: I have a question what about the ones that don't know or aren't sure, please when you answer provide logical explanation if you don't mind. Not that I'm saying you can't be logical mind you but a wall of scriptural text by itself, I believe, won't help me to fully grasp what your saying.
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