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 Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:42 pm
Um Lunar you do know that is completely made up right. O__O; There are no such interviews that have ever said that EVER. They just made up some crap as evidence
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:17 pm
.[.pink.spider.]. Um Lunar you do know that is completely made up right. O__O; There are no such interviews that have ever said that EVER. They just made up some crap as evidence  Really? They one hundred percent made it up? Wow, I wonder why they would do something like that. X_X That's a little delusional/weird. I was wondering why they said Nomura didn't like Aeris, when in other interviews he's mentioned the staff liking Aeris, which he thought it was okay to enhance her beauty in CC. xD Not to mention, what he says about her in KH and the inclusion of her in Tactics. I think Nomura likes all of his characters, though.
And yeah, that part about him getting sick of Aeris to replace her with Tifa--- wow. Nomura was talking with Kitase, and they agreed to kill off Aeris, though they were originally going to kill off Barret. XD They said Aeris would have more of an impact though, and that it would be best if she had died instead. It doesn't mean they didn't like her. :/
And, what about Yuna? She didn't have long hair. :/ And Garnet actually cuts her hair half-way through the game. What's THAT supposed to imply? rofl
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Truthiness3x4 Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:53 am
Garnet was Amano's character, not Nomura's. But yar, people who say Nomura didn't like Aeris tickle my funny bone.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:54 pm
*hits self in head* I should've realized that. xD~
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:39 pm
Haha. You should these the far limits some Clotis do to make up stuff. Like there was this one site that had such a pretty Clerith layout and looked very pro Clerith but once you red their essays and looked closely you'd notice that they were very mocking and fake. : O Just like that "cleris book of knowledge" What a waste of their time and effort.
And Nomura said in an interview that he was most like Sora, not Cloud.
Loveless is a piece of lies made to attract fans who are clueless and take what loveless as fact without knowing it. : ]
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:01 pm
Actually, Loveless has interesting theories and actually provided some facts that I didn't know before. Of course, I did spot a few errors here and there, but they weren't radical. It's harsh to say that it's all a piece of trash since it's nothing like the "piece of trash" the Cleris invented="Destiny Fulfilled."
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:55 pm
.[.pink.spider.]. GIGGLESNORT Those Cleeto forums... Are really insane. Who goes that freakin far, to measure, draw, and DIAGRAM hentai?! Lmao. For cereal, though. HENTAI and DIAGRAMS . The DesFul forums. Seriously. Their members draw and write the stuff. Quote: Have you seen these Forums? Nice people, (lmao not really) and they can't see two sides of things because of how not outside the box they think. They are trapped in the land of fanboy fantasies and their own sexual desires~ rofl Careful when throwing stones. You might just break your own windows. Quote: O__O okiez anyways now that I got that out the way... I really dont see teh point of this thread. I could, if I wanted post countless loads of entertaining garbage from Loveless and good ol' Strifeheart, but what good does that do you know? : ] It's pointless to judge other peoples posts considering you dont know them. : / And what does laughing at somebody's opinion do? Make you feel better? I really dont get it because it's not like they are "omgmytheoriesaredefact" everyone has their own opinions. I myself think that whole "aerithinthethreesomething" is quite silly but to deny Aerith's presense is quite common. She doesnt need to be laying next to them to show she is there! rofl I dont really see that as a cloti scene either considering its actually just Aerith healing them. It's not just Aerith healing them. It's Aerith looking after THEM. As in the both of them. Quote: and at this: Quote: Addendum: Interesting bit of Trivia- the name of the piece for the gondola ride is "Interrupted by Fireworks", and there's only one of the four who actually does get interrupted by fireworks. It ain't Aerith. Wasnt Tifa about to confess her feelings? So that was "interrupted by fireworks" I believe. : ] Plus like you say it's all about Cloud right and I didnt really feel the love. wink And yet, it was the only one of the four where Cloud even acted interested in the conversation, and he wanted to know what she was about to say. Besides, you think the north crater sequence is C/A, so I think that gives us a good benchmark of your analytical abilities.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:17 pm
Ryushikaze .[.pink.spider.]. GIGGLESNORT Those Cleeto forums... Are really insane. Who goes that freakin far, to measure, draw, and DIAGRAM hentai?! Lmao. For cereal, though. HENTAI and DIAGRAMS . The DesFul forums. Seriously. Their members draw and write the stuff. Quote: Have you seen these Forums? Nice people, (lmao not really) and they can't see two sides of things because of how not outside the box they think. They are trapped in the land of fanboy fantasies and their own sexual desires~ rofl Careful when throwing stones. You might just break your own windows. Quote: O__O okiez anyways now that I got that out the way... I really dont see teh point of this thread. I could, if I wanted post countless loads of entertaining garbage from Loveless and good ol' Strifeheart, but what good does that do you know? : ] It's pointless to judge other peoples posts considering you dont know them. : / And what does laughing at somebody's opinion do? Make you feel better? I really dont get it because it's not like they are "omgmytheoriesaredefact" everyone has their own opinions. I myself think that whole "aerithinthethreesomething" is quite silly but to deny Aerith's presense is quite common. She doesnt need to be laying next to them to show she is there! rofl I dont really see that as a cloti scene either considering its actually just Aerith healing them. It's not just Aerith healing them. It's Aerith looking after THEM. As in the both of them. Quote: and at this: Quote: Addendum: Interesting bit of Trivia- the name of the piece for the gondola ride is "Interrupted by Fireworks", and there's only one of the four who actually does get interrupted by fireworks. It ain't Aerith. Wasnt Tifa about to confess her feelings? So that was "interrupted by fireworks" I believe. : ] Plus like you say it's all about Cloud right and I didnt really feel the love. wink And yet, it was the only one of the four where Cloud even acted interested in the conversation, and he wanted to know what she was about to say. Besides, you think the north crater sequence is C/A, so I think that gives us a good benchmark of your analytical abilities. Lol, and I wasn't exactly "feeling the love" In Cloud and Aeris's date scene.
"I want to know you."
"What?... I'm right here."
"No, I want to know the real you."
"...."
THE BONDING OF TWO HEARTS~ <--sarcasm-->
^More like, random plot extra that shows how Aeris feels.
After the ride, Cloud doesn't ask what Aeris meant. But, after Tifa says
"Cloud I...."
After the ride ends, Cloud asks Tifa what she meant. And, interuppted by fireworks? That's cute, and it shows who's scene may... be more "canon". She was so close to saying her feelings, but she was interuppted. x']
What about when Cloud is about to fall into Aeris's church in the beginning of the game?
Tifa: Cloud don't die! There is so much I have to tell you...
Cloud: Tifa... I know...
Come ON now. Tifa I know "you love me" or "I have so much more to tell you too". What else COULD it mean? Sorry I randomly brought this up, but most Cleris fans CLAIM this scene is NOT romantic. =giggle= This is the perfect reinactment of how I feel about the "Cleris" date scene: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KnZy_VdVLrE&feature=user
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:06 pm
Yeah! That scene where Cloud was just about to fall I found really touching. And dang it! I can't watch that little clip you put up Lunar! gonk I promised myself that this Lent I would give up watching everything and reading manga! crying
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:20 pm
Me too! <3
Awe, you do lent too? D:>
Watch it right afterwards! You'll get a kick. Though, if you've ever seen "FFVII:About Random Battles", you might've seen it already. :'D But, that's a crazy thing to give up. I'd never make it! XD
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:46 pm
I'm beginning to regret it though. xd I don't know how I'm resisting pressing that "youtube" icon on my toolbar....gosh, so tempting.
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:00 pm
Lol, I should have been active while pink.spider was around. I would have loved to get into a debate about CloTi and Cleris.
Ever wonder, why of all the date scenes in FFVII, why was Tifa and Cloud's the only one with that interruption of fireworks? Correct me if I'm wrong.. as I haven't dated anyone besides Tifa, my source informs me of this though. Why would they make a BIG effort in making that one scene?
Tifa wasn't supposed to confess. And Cloud wanted to know what she was going to say but.. if Tifa says 'Forget it.' Well, there's no getting that out of her now.
Diagrams and charts, LOL. That is just too much. I have read some Cleris sites (just for the curiosity of it) about their star signs. PLEASE, people are we that desperate to determine somebody's match through star signs?!
And how would they determine that by measurements? Numerology? OH. My. God. Give me a break. That's just too funny. rofl And all their symbolism about rain that connects heaven and earth.
They're too biased to notice Tifa. If Cloud was heaven, Aeris is rain, Tifa would be earth. See? Rain connects Heaven and Earth. =P
Oh, and Cleris fans aren't trapped in their fangirl fantasies and their own romantic desires? Why else would they be so eager to hang on to the "dream" Dream meaning Aeris. Meaning, Aeris IS dead. Meaning, there's no way for them to be together physically anymore. Spiritually? PLEASE.. >_> Angel? and the Mako Soldier?
Look, Nomura killed off Jessie, then killed off Aeris. Aeris was meant to be sacrificed to save the Planet. That was that. She did her part but she's not the main heroine anymore.
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:41 pm
Hear hear! I agree that Cleris fans are just way too romantic; they think way too idealistically rather than actually consider the obvious facts. This leads to overanalysis and outright ridiculousness.
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:24 pm
"Love is not consolation. It is Light." Actually, I'm a super big romantic. *_* But I love analyzing the facts, too. I like to use emotions in debates, but that is not the only thing I use. You simply must use facts when you are trying to prove something. The thing about facts is that they are solid truths, that cannot be argued against.
Fact: This text is pink.
Some-one could say, "No, your text is red" and it would be wrong.
A lot of Cleris fans do this. xD Maybe that is a bad example. -ahem- Cleris fans tend to enforce their own opinions to CHANGE the facts, is what I'm getting at.
That whole star thing is FUN to joke around about, but to use in actual debates? Nonsense. Invalid. Some of them do tend to over-analyze. I hate when they compare games like Kingdom Hearts to Cloud and Aeris. Such as,
"Kairi and Sora are together, because Nomura wanted to prove Cloud and Aeris!!"
No. Nomura wanted to prove the love of Sora and Kairi. >_>
(*COUGH* or in my world, Riku and Sora.)
Not only are Kairi and Sora more like Cloud and Tifa anyways, but just because a pairing is SIMILAR to a pairing you like, doesn't mean they were based off of that pairing.
That's like saying the clown fish is Cleris. rofl
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:30 pm
Lol, I'm quite the romantic too, but what I mean by overly romantic, I mean they are more idealistic, not accepting the cold hard facts.
Speaking of pink and red....in Destiny Fulfilled, they said that Aeris actually wears "red" because pink is just a shade of red. Then they go on about that it's Japanese symbolism about destined love and etc...
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