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I mean actual warfare. Real combat situations. You very rarly see soldiers on the battlefield come to fists and knives, I'm sure it happens when that clip runs empty... but for the most part guns are the swords of the day.

Now why would the NYPD want to go and teach kids how to kill other kids?!?! Makes absolutely no sense.

I'm seriously beginning to dislike Hi-i'mafaggot. And no, I refuse to learn your name.

I live in New York, a cesspool of crime. I have been mugged with a gun before and ill tell you, owning a gun wouldnt have helped me in any way. This is because you dont know when you are going to be mugged and whe you do, you have a higher chance of getting shot reaching for your gun rather than performing a krav maga technique or best move yet, just give him what he wants. Also you have to realize that even if youi are getting mugged and you shoot the mugger and kill him all hell will be broken loose on your a** by the law, or lets say your skilled and somehow manage to grab your gun without him noticing and shoot out a knee, you still get a lawsuit, especially because he can claim he was defending himself and you were mugging him (this is if you run) so guns are a very sticky situation and in my opinion should only be brough out for war where law for the most part doesnt apply. And yes there where incidents like columbine that MA wouldnt have helped, but do you think that if there was kid with a gun there who began defending the school with his ability, that it would have made the situation better? I think not. While I agree that knowing how to use a gun is important, I dont agree thats its useful for everyday life in anyway aside from a hobby. Plus guns arent useful for many situations and cant do s**t about a mortar shell or airplane bomb. And if america was attacked in such a way where the need to know how to skillfully us an AK or SKS, it wouldnt be with a huge attack with troops, it would be done with nuclear and biological arms, then when most of those skilled people were dead then the troops would come. So I do not in anyway agree that using a gun in any place but war would help.

Of course I'm not stupid, and would never jump at the chance to shoot somebody, even if I was getting mugged... However, I am simply talking about practicality reasons. Guns are the swords of the day, and there is no reason not to be able to wield them as effectivly as practitioners of kinjitsu, kendo or fencing are able to wield swords... or any weapon for that matter.

Once again, I am not one of those gung-ho kill or be killed types... In fact I am fully against pistols outside of any use other than possibly a sidearm for bow hunting. (for the bears)

I am simply stating, if people find piece of mind in learning weapon arts, why not shooting?

"You flash your piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your a** and pull the trigger til it goes ... click"

"Thats right mon, nobody ******** with tha jesus"

If anyone knows how to handle a gun, they arn't going to let you wrestle it away from them. It may happen... and it's better then nothing if you know they are going to shoot you... but it's a long-shot... and will get you killed more often then not. Now a knife may give you a better chance, but it's still risky. Your best bet would be to brush the berrel of the gun away from you with your left hand while you slice their neck with the knife, hoping it's fast enough. Knife vs gun combat was common in ww1 and even parts of ww2. I've even heard stories of soldiers in Iraq getting a few frantic knife kills in.

I say you 2 fight to the death.