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Zurine

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:06 pm


edit: You guys dissapoint me.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:28 pm


Zurine
edit: You guys dissapoint me.


Seconded.

Aevey


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:34 pm


Keziah Rose
Zurine
edit: You guys dissapoint me.


Seconded.


Aaaand thirded. I won't even bother. rolleyes
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:52 pm


Aw. I'm sad that Zurine, Knola and Kizzy are disappointed. ;3;

Just to shimmy back to the pseudo-topic, I'd say in general men are more physically agressive, whereas women have a tendency towards "subversive" tactics. I'm nt saying that out of prejudice, just observation.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:25 pm


Mitsh
Aw. I'm sad that Zurine, Knola and Kizzy are disappointed. ;3;

Just to shimmy back to the pseudo-topic, I'd say in general men are more physically agressive, whereas women have a tendency towards "subversive" tactics. I'm nt saying that out of prejudice, just observation.


Thank you for making a legitimate point. Men tend to be violent (physically), women tend to use emotional or financial abuse. The reason for this is, of course, men are generally physically stronger than women. This isn't some feminazi bias, this is just a physical fact.

I worked at a domestic violence shelter, and the number of male victims was almost nonexistent. When someone calls the cops, and they come in on a scene, they usually drag off the person without a bunch of bruises all over them. No bias there. It's not hard to figure out who's more beat up after a fight.

You'll have to excuse me for laughing at people when they say there's an unfair bias in favor of women while we are all living in a patriarchal society. Women are a lot of things, but we're hardly in control of the culture and the government. If we were, we wouldn't be making 80% of what men make, and we wouldn't live in a culture where our looks are the most important thing that can give us value as romantic partners or even human beings.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:46 pm


The worlds going to end?!?!

*hides under a rock*

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:49 pm


Knola
Mitsh, yeah I know. xd

Thatcher was the leader the author of the comic book V For Vendetta had in mind when writing the thing. Point is, she scared everybody, so no one would attack the UK under her watch.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:06 pm


MikeeBoi1029
Knola
Mitsh, yeah I know. xd

Thatcher was the leader the author of the comic book V For Vendetta had in mind when writing the thing. Point is, she scared everybody, so no one would attack the UK under her watch.


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Oh gawd.

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Dorian Requiem

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:18 pm


Knola
Keziah Rose
Zurine
edit: You guys dissapoint me.
Seconded.
Aaaand thirded. I won't even bother. rolleyes

Well, the points made are like saying that studies have shown females 'raping' (survey people had a definiton) males has been on an increase in the last several years. It may be true technically (circumstances omitted and ignored), but its like spitting in a pool, and then throwing the pool into the ocean, it doesn't measure up. Mind you, I find any arguements about sexes is about as cyclically idiot as most arguements about religions. My favorite is 'abrahamic relgions' vs 'pagans'. "They killed and burned some of us over the last hundred years." "Well, we fed them to the lions before that." Even with technical correctness, theres falsified and/or cover-up information which just detracts from the whole arguement.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:53 pm


Dorian Requiem

Well, the points made are like saying that studies have shown females 'raping' (survey people had a definiton) males has been on an increase in the last several years.


Um...weird question, but how DOES a woman rape a man? sweatdrop

Men rape men often...but the physical logistics of a woman raping a man don't make very much sense, unless it's a sort of...date rape where the man is aroused but doesn't want it, and the man is also physically weaker than the woman (or tied up)?

OH WAIT I got it. Most likely, they're cases where the woman is a lot older and the male is like 13 or something. That would make sense.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:03 pm


You people don't make me proud
You people don't dissapoint me
You all have given me something to finally love in life... Seriously...

Most of you all who participated in the stupid banter and bashings of the opposite sex completely sicken me. It's so beautifully idiotic and chaotic, it's sickening. I love you all.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:25 pm


Knola
Dorian Requiem

Well, the points made are like saying that studies have shown females 'raping' (survey people had a definiton) males has been on an increase in the last several years.


Um...weird question, but how DOES a woman rape a man? sweatdrop

Men rape men often...but the physical logistics of a woman raping a man don't make very much sense, unless it's a sort of...date rape where the man is aroused but doesn't want it, and the man is also physically weaker than the woman (or tied up)?

OH WAIT I got it. Most likely, they're cases where the woman is a lot older and the male is like 13 or something. That would make sense.

Yeah, I think it included statuatory rape, and then mixing chemicals amoung other things. I've always thought the later would have a chance of killing a guy, but I haven't found anything extensive. There one more way that comes to mind as being obvious, but I find it debatable for if it would fit the serveys rape definition technically. I don't think it would be good to persue this particular offshoot for more then a couple posts at risk of some uptight person alerting an uptight (Gaia wide) mod.

Dorian Requiem


Khalida Nyoka

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:31 pm


Knola
If we were, we wouldn't be making 80% of what men make,


EDIT - I'd like to apologize to everyone for the previous version of this post (if you saw it). There are some things that are natural hot-buttons for me, and this particular "statistic" happens to be one of them. Not a good excuse, but at least it may help people to understand why I was so... angry sounding.

That is a highly biased statistic. The subject is discussed by John Stossel in his book "Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity."

In short, the reason men make more money than women is a matter of priorities.

Men place a higher priority on making money, and as such will do extremely difficult, labor intensive work (or anything else, for that matter) so long as the paycheck is nice and high.

The vast majority of women prefer to have a job that is flexible, which inevitably leads to lower wages. When you do less hours of work, or when you need the ability to do less hours of work, you make less money.

It is not a matter of gender bias or sexism. Men make more because they choose to, and women make less because it isn't the top item on their list.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:02 pm


Khalida Nyoka
Knola
If we were, we wouldn't be making 80% of what men make,



That is a highly biased statistic. The subject is discussed by John Stossel in his book "Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity."

In short, the reason men make more money than women is a matter of priorities.


Do you know how this statistic is made? They take people in the same job positions, with the same amount of education and experience. The only difference is gender. The pay gap appears even at starting wages, before either person can work a single day to show what their priorities are. If that isn't discrimination, I don't know what is. The only reason women make less is because people like you make that very generalization that women aren't able to commit to work as much as men are.

Men do not work harder than women; even women who don't even have children or marriages and who make work their top priority STILL hit a glass ceiling. I know it may come as a shock to you, but the world isn't fair.

By the way, books on politics are most likely to be full of crap, hate to tell you.

You think it sucks having one little "biased" statistic thrown in your face? Please. I'd hate to see you survive in my shoes; the whole world is biased against me. I'm a good sport though. wink

Funny how the wage gap closes or widens every several years. I guess women's priorities all just shuffle around and we women all magically change our work priorities at the same exact time. Maybe use a little logic next time instead of swallowing whatever you read.

This is The Real Statistic

"This is true even though women receive better evaluations than men on average and have longer job tenure..." --Guess your argument falls flat.

Asherah Delphinia


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:18 pm


Everyone knows that the world is going to end because we want to throw 50 megaton firecrackers at each other. We can't stop squabbling over land and deities long enough to look at the big picture.

What we *need* is an apocalypse of some kind, in my opinion.

EDIT: Whoa. I think by not reading the entire topic I completely missed something. That said, the world is obviously going to end because of people arguing over a statistic.
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