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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:50 pm
"All that we see or seem, Is but a dream within a dream." Yay! I visit there all the time! The link is very helpful to others. x] heart
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:00 pm
Yeah. xd Shame on me for not finding it earlier. xd
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:34 pm
Supreme God Raito Quote: . Let me copy paste what it said about Cloud and Aeris--- Oh wait, there isn't anything. rofl LMAO. You think they'd mention her, if she were so important. ;o I agree. All the canon sources seem to be Cloud and Tifa this, and Cloud and Tifa that.Quote: She ventured into Lifestream together with Cloud. Amidst the course of him trying to ascertain his memories, they became aware of the thoughts/feelings which each other was holding. I really don't know how it gets any clearer than that. The game itself shows you this, but if you decided to ignore it... there you are. And this isn't just Tifa's feelings, it's both of theirs. Can it be any more simple?
Maybe Cloud doesn't come out with his feelings prior to this because he's afraid of Tifa still rejecting him? He is oblivious to their feelings, as the Ultimania says about the date scenes. It takes Tifa going into his mind to find these, and she's even shocked. And probably dancing around thinking, "Oh ya, I'm the winner. He loves me." XD Then she reveals hers too, and Cloud's mind is all, "Dude! Yes, that rocks. Now we can be happy together... just remember to tell Cloud IRL rather than in his mind because he's still a lil messed up, kthxbi." XP
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:04 pm
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I'm not." Well, some Cleris fans... okay most, will come up with something like...
"It says they realize their feelings. It doesn't say it's romantic feelings or even feelings about each other". rolleyes
Really. What else could these feelings pertain too? :/ How Cloud's past revolved around Tifa? How Tifa wished she had noticed Cloud's feelings sooner? How obsessed Cloud was with Tifa's promise? Hmm...
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:27 pm
That is indeed pulling at strings. When a sentence says a boy and a girl are realizing feelings that each of them were holding (or hiding), it's not up for interpretation. Either way, the feelings that are revealed are Cloud's "crush" for Tifa, and Tifa's "crush" for Cloud. There aren't other feelings being revealed... so how can they try to claim it's not romantic? XP
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:24 pm
Quote: "It says they realize their feelings. It doesn't say it's romantic feelings or even feelings about each other". Dude....that's the only thing they do, denying concrete evidence. It's like trying to say that Yuna really didn't love Tidus because she never said "I love you." (In the Japanese scene she says "Arigato.") They have to see Square say "Cloud loves Tifa" before they believe it. Then again...they'd probably say "But what if Cloud loves her as a sibling?" or something like that.....
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:08 pm
I love this line:
Quote: The present Tifa isn't just Cloud's childhood friend, but also the mother of the 'family' they were forming in Edge. Disproves all that "they are only friends" crap. XP
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:07 pm
Twindream Quote: "It says they realize their feelings. It doesn't say it's romantic feelings or even feelings about each other". Dude....that's the only thing they do, denying concrete evidence. It's like trying to say that Yuna really didn't love Tidus because she never said "I love you." (In the Japanese scene she says "Arigato.") They have to see Square say "Cloud loves Tifa" before they believe it. Then again...they'd probably say "But what if Cloud loves her as a sibling?" or something like that..... "I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I'm not." Funny thing is, the CC Ultimania states that Cloud fell in love with Tifa. But most Cleris fans have that "It's in the past so it's not really love" mindset, which is just a shame. : X
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:43 am
LunarSchemer Twindream Quote: "It says they realize their feelings. It doesn't say it's romantic feelings or even feelings about each other". Dude....that's the only thing they do, denying concrete evidence. It's like trying to say that Yuna really didn't love Tidus because she never said "I love you." (In the Japanese scene she says "Arigato.") They have to see Square say "Cloud loves Tifa" before they believe it. Then again...they'd probably say "But what if Cloud loves her as a sibling?" or something like that..... "I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I'm not." Funny thing is, the CC Ultimania states that Cloud fell in love with Tifa. But most Cleris fans have that "It's in the past so it's not really love" mindset, which is just a shame. : X Hahaha. If Ultimania stated bluntly that Cleris was meant to be, then I wouldn't debate that it's the other way around. xd
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:51 pm
Twindream LunarSchemer Twindream Quote: "It says they realize their feelings. It doesn't say it's romantic feelings or even feelings about each other". Dude....that's the only thing they do, denying concrete evidence. It's like trying to say that Yuna really didn't love Tidus because she never said "I love you." (In the Japanese scene she says "Arigato.") They have to see Square say "Cloud loves Tifa" before they believe it. Then again...they'd probably say "But what if Cloud loves her as a sibling?" or something like that..... "I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I'm not." Funny thing is, the CC Ultimania states that Cloud fell in love with Tifa. But most Cleris fans have that "It's in the past so it's not really love" mindset, which is just a shame. : X Hahaha. If Ultimania stated bluntly that Cleris was meant to be, then I wouldn't debate that it's the other way around. xd Me neither. Though I would want to know why they changed their minds and retconned all of their own text. XP
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:12 pm
Lol, they'd have to deny all the sources. xd
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:13 pm
"My heart's crippled by the vein, that I keep on closing. . . You cut me open and I~ Keep bleeding love." I can't wait for them to claim CC uncanon. =D
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:24 pm
*Sighs* I can see that happening actually.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:15 am
Who, Cleris claiming it's not canon?
Way more canon than Maiden ever will be. XD
I just love how after all these years we have concrete proof that Zack and Aeris were in love and she was in denial in FFVII. It's mind boggling that people didn't understand that when playing FFVII, or completely disregarded the connection that Cloud wants to be Zack, Zack's girlfriend starts to like him... it's there for a reason. It's there so there appears to be a LT at the beginning of the game, but then everything is explained and sorted out.
So now there's no way to claim that everything in FFVII Aeris says about Zack isn't denial. Unless you are in denial yourself. XP
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:43 pm
Hahaha, and the majority is in denial. Deep down they know that the evidence is poking at them. They want to avoid that as much as possible to the point where they refuse to play the game.
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