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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:21 pm


WatersMoon110
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Conservatives in the UK are loved or despised depending on where you live. I live in the north of England. This is where the coal mines were situated until the conservatives closed them all down because it was cheaper to buy coal from abroad. This left most villages and towns in the North with no income as there were literally almost no other industries in the North at that time. When the miners struck the conservative leader ordered the police to break the strike in any way possible. The police turned the leaders of the strikes upside down into the burning barrels of oil they were using to keep themselves warm, killing them. The party and leader have never apologised for ordering this and since then there are towns in England where Jesus could be running for the conservatives as MP and he wouldn't get in.
Wow - that's a horrible thing to have happened.
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I will as such always hold a grudge against the conservatives because they have maintained what they did was ok to this day and my family were badly affected during that time. If I dislike them with a good reason I don't see that as discimination.
I find that understandable, but somewhat irrational (no offense meant). I can see where you would hold a grudge, but obviously most conservatives weren't involved with that action - it's a little like hating all chickens because one attacked you when you were little (which took me years and years to get over). It was only a few people who made that horrible, horrible choice - and it is unlikely that any of them would ever be a potential adoptive family.


Oh I agree with you. I understand that those people are gone, but it's like a phobia as you said, where it is difficult to forget something for which no closure was gotten.

I would be somewhat saddened if any of my children were UK conservatives today, because I dislike their policies of taxing people based upon people per house rather than size/value of house which means poor families in small houses pay more than rich families who can afford many houses. I wouldn't min so much, after all some of their policies I agree with, like keeping our currency, I'm fond of pound sterling.

It's just the handing over of a child bit I have issues with. I mean, who would be able to hand a child over to someone whose views were in their opinion morally wrong? I know morals aren't absolute and they certainly aren't correct for everyone, but they are correct for me, and I would still feel that I wasn't doing my best for the child. If I thought that they could raise it better then chances are I'd have their veiws myself. It's very difficult for a human being to put those irrational emotions aside, even when we know they are irrational.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:23 pm


Point didn't go over so well. Restartign in a new thread.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:26 pm


Anardana
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I believe it was an attempt to keep from derailing the other thread.

Edit: I believe this because I asked him not to derail the thread, so please, take it up with me, not with Tiger. It's not meant as a sling at any individual. If it was, it probably would have been posted in the extended discussion subforum where Anardana would be unable to defend her statement.



I still think it was blatantly rude to quote my post in there when there was nothing stopping him writing a purposeful OP himself on the subject. As far as I can see my quote in there holds no purpose other than as an example of what he disagrees with.
Well, miyo quoted divine as the start of another topic, why is that okay? Or isn't it? Yes, it matters to me that you're offended. It's not inconsequential at all, but no one had any ill intentions to slight you. Would you rather he just leave your name out, and take one part of the quote, out of context? If you would, please take that up with him, or if you think he can't be unbiased, ask Waters, or another mod of your choosing, but please believe me when I say, there was no ill intention meant towards you as far as I can tell.

Also, I used the word "discriminating" because it's the wording you used when you said you never claimed that you weren't discriminating against people you strongly agree with, not because I think you do or because I think it's discriminating to disagree with someone. I'm sorry if this has caused confusion, and again, I did not mean at all to offend you.

Waters: I understand that, but that wasn't where I had a problem. I don't care if people prefer to seek people who are like themselves to raise their children, it was more the implication that otherwise the child will grow up to be closed-minded that made me do a doubletake. I think the same is true with Pyro, though I'm not 100% sure since I'm not him.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:31 pm


Is it bad of me to post in a closed thread?

Anyway - I sort of started a thread about open adoption to address the "would you want someone of your values raising your biological kid" idea. Hopefully, it won't offend anyone!

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