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TurMacar

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:26 pm


ayukichan
RAPTOR948
beleive it Ayukichan, the thread still lives.

BOT: FF3 IMHO would be good on the GBASP, but with the whole touch screen and other stuff, I guess it was innevitable. if they make a DS/GB player device for the Revolution it'll make the TV function like the GBA or the DS(depending on the game programming base, single or dual screens), and would enabel the stylus function and control... talk about extreme convenience, instead of grabbing the stylus every time you need to pick something up and skipping a turn or something, use the infared eye to pick your item and still have control over the game... oh s**t! oh snap! and other such reactions that come to mind I cant say right now! I can see the innovation and convenience in the Revolutions release! *stares at Nintendo Logo with glittery eyes*


I see. Well in that case I'm keeping it updated. xd

Yes, a DS emulator for Revolution would make sense, provided you find a way to use two screens. In this case you might either have to a.) play with 2 TV's and not just one or b.) obstruct the view of one screen with another. Sorry, but it just might not be possible unless you somehow get both screens to be used on one TV..... sweatdrop


You could have it like the Gameboy Player on GameCube. Have it just display the screens and have a background filling in the empty space to the left and right....kinda like how they do screenshots of DS games in magazines with just a like separating them.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:36 am


I Macar
ayukichan
RAPTOR948
beleive it Ayukichan, the thread still lives.

BOT: FF3 IMHO would be good on the GBASP, but with the whole touch screen and other stuff, I guess it was innevitable. if they make a DS/GB player device for the Revolution it'll make the TV function like the GBA or the DS(depending on the game programming base, single or dual screens), and would enabel the stylus function and control... talk about extreme convenience, instead of grabbing the stylus every time you need to pick something up and skipping a turn or something, use the infared eye to pick your item and still have control over the game... oh s**t! oh snap! and other such reactions that come to mind I cant say right now! I can see the innovation and convenience in the Revolutions release! *stares at Nintendo Logo with glittery eyes*


I see. Well in that case I'm keeping it updated. xd

Yes, a DS emulator for Revolution would make sense, provided you find a way to use two screens. In this case you might either have to a.) play with 2 TV's and not just one or b.) obstruct the view of one screen with another. Sorry, but it just might not be possible unless you somehow get both screens to be used on one TV..... sweatdrop


You could have it like the Gameboy Player on GameCube. Have it just display the screens and have a background filling in the empty space to the left and right....kinda like how they do screenshots of DS games in magazines with just a like separating them.


Well, uh, wouldn't that make the screens a bit too small? Either that or they'd be all scrunched up like the split screens in Sonic 2..... sweatdrop

ayukichan


TurMacar

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:47 am


ayukichan
I Macar
ayukichan
RAPTOR948
beleive it Ayukichan, the thread still lives.

BOT: FF3 IMHO would be good on the GBASP, but with the whole touch screen and other stuff, I guess it was innevitable. if they make a DS/GB player device for the Revolution it'll make the TV function like the GBA or the DS(depending on the game programming base, single or dual screens), and would enabel the stylus function and control... talk about extreme convenience, instead of grabbing the stylus every time you need to pick something up and skipping a turn or something, use the infared eye to pick your item and still have control over the game... oh s**t! oh snap! and other such reactions that come to mind I cant say right now! I can see the innovation and convenience in the Revolutions release! *stares at Nintendo Logo with glittery eyes*


I see. Well in that case I'm keeping it updated. xd

Yes, a DS emulator for Revolution would make sense, provided you find a way to use two screens. In this case you might either have to a.) play with 2 TV's and not just one or b.) obstruct the view of one screen with another. Sorry, but it just might not be possible unless you somehow get both screens to be used on one TV..... sweatdrop


You could have it like the Gameboy Player on GameCube. Have it just display the screens and have a background filling in the empty space to the left and right....kinda like how they do screenshots of DS games in magazines with just a like separating them.


Well, uh, wouldn't that make the screens a bit too small? Either that or they'd be all scrunched up like the split screens in Sonic 2..... sweatdrop


I guess it could...kinda depends on the TV.....

....I'd think they would keep the size ratio's of the screens intact and let the size of the TV dictate how big they were...but I'd think on just about any TV they'd be bigger than on the DS.

...only other thing I could think of would be the screens side-by-side in letterbox format....but then it wouldn't really work when something goes from the bottom to the top screen and vice-versa....like Metroid Pinball or something.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:23 am


They'll probably think of something original..... sweatdrop

And anyway this is not focussed on Nintendo's DS to TV conversion. We should talk more about Squenix's DS and Revo decisions. 3nodding

ayukichan


TurMacar

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:16 am


ayukichan
They'll probably think of something original..... sweatdrop

And anyway this is not focussed on Nintendo's DS to TV conversion. We should talk more about Squenix's DS and Revo decisions. 3nodding


oh yea.... sweatdrop rolleyes

I like that they're remaking/rereleasing alot of the old Final Fantasys, when they originally came out I wasn't a gamer and/or was more interested in dinosaurs and being an astronaught/cowboy... sweatdrop . And since the original cartridges/discs are becoming kinda hard to find its nice to be able to pick it up for GBA/DS. 3nodding
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:29 pm


I Macar
ayukichan
They'll probably think of something original..... sweatdrop

And anyway this is not focussed on Nintendo's DS to TV conversion. We should talk more about Squenix's DS and Revo decisions. 3nodding


oh yea.... sweatdrop rolleyes

I like that they're remaking/rereleasing alot of the old Final Fantasys, when they originally came out I wasn't a gamer and/or was more interested in dinosaurs and being an astronaught/cowboy... sweatdrop . And since the original cartridges/discs are becoming kinda hard to find its nice to be able to pick it up for GBA/DS. 3nodding


Yeah, FFIV Advance is way superior to its FFII counterpart for a number of reasons. A better translation, for one thing, and also a few cool extras...... razz

ayukichan


TurMacar

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:34 am


ayukichan
I Macar
ayukichan
They'll probably think of something original..... sweatdrop

And anyway this is not focussed on Nintendo's DS to TV conversion. We should talk more about Squenix's DS and Revo decisions. 3nodding


oh yea.... sweatdrop rolleyes

I like that they're remaking/rereleasing alot of the old Final Fantasys, when they originally came out I wasn't a gamer and/or was more interested in dinosaurs and being an astronaught/cowboy... sweatdrop . And since the original cartridges/discs are becoming kinda hard to find its nice to be able to pick it up for GBA/DS. 3nodding


Yeah, FFIV Advance is way superior to its FFII counterpart for a number of reasons. A better translation, for one thing, and also a few cool extras...... razz


Still havn't got that one yet. I was gonna get it....but then I saw Harmony of Dissonance...and I've been getting really into Castlevania lately and it was the only portable one I didn't own....I was weak. sad

....good game though. blaugh
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:06 am


well, the entire idea with using the DS function with the revolution, it would have to be vertical for the two screens, and simulate the DS on screen, or yeah throw in some backgrounds, original ones, and ones you can create and upload/download from the WiFi internet service.

the idea of an add-on device to emulate the DS and GBA games on the Revolution would come in handy, like with the GBplayer. I understand the TV size would dictate how big the emulated screens would be, but a 15 inch monitor is bigger than 3-5 inch screens, I could understand playing a DS game on a DS player connected to my TV, using the Revolution controller for my other stuff, and sets of controls for a DS player. useing the A and B on the main controller, or even a peripheral that would simulate the DS by putting A, B, X, Y, and R on the controller, and L with Start, Select, and directional on the other part, but then again, Nintendo didnt think about putting more buttons on the controller... maybe I could submit that as a V2 controller for the Revolution. ^_^ then again, I see that using up, Down, Left, and Right on the D-pad would function on the Rev controller would function like A, B, L, and R, with Start, Select, and Home still holding their functions, just adding the Nunchuku peripheral would add a movement control item to the game. ^_^ I think they did think that far ahead... CLEVER!! *points to Nintendo*

this is why Nintendo will always be the best in the gaming market, also most dependable.

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ayukichan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:27 pm


RAPTOR948
well, the entire idea with using the DS function with the revolution, it would have to be vertical for the two screens, and simulate the DS on screen, or yeah throw in some backgrounds, original ones, and ones you can create and upload/download from the WiFi internet service.

the idea of an add-on device to emulate the DS and GBA games on the Revolution would come in handy, like with the GBplayer. I understand the TV size would dictate how big the emulated screens would be, but a 15 inch monitor is bigger than 3-5 inch screens, I could understand playing a DS game on a DS player connected to my TV, using the Revolution controller for my other stuff, and sets of controls for a DS player. useing the A and B on the main controller, or even a peripheral that would simulate the DS by putting A, B, X, Y, and R on the controller, and L with Start, Select, and directional on the other part, but then again, Nintendo didnt think about putting more buttons on the controller... maybe I could submit that as a V2 controller for the Revolution. ^_^ then again, I see that using up, Down, Left, and Right on the D-pad would function on the Rev controller would function like A, B, L, and R, with Start, Select, and Home still holding their functions, just adding the Nunchuku peripheral would add a movement control item to the game. ^_^ I think they did think that far ahead... CLEVER!! *points to Nintendo*

this is why Nintendo will always be the best in the gaming market, also most dependable.


Quite an interesting theory. smile

I'm not sure though.....wouldn't it be better to transfer one screen from the DS to the TV using Revo? I know you'll have to spend about $300 worth of both systems but that way you can keep both screens on the DS and just use one of them on the TV. Like with Kirby Canvas Curse.....just transfer the screen over and use the stylus as always.

Maybe I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I stand by my opinion for sure but I bet it's going to get turned down..... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:41 am


ayukichan
RAPTOR948
well, the entire idea with using the DS function with the revolution, it would have to be vertical for the two screens, and simulate the DS on screen, or yeah throw in some backgrounds, original ones, and ones you can create and upload/download from the WiFi internet service.

the idea of an add-on device to emulate the DS and GBA games on the Revolution would come in handy, like with the GBplayer. I understand the TV size would dictate how big the emulated screens would be, but a 15 inch monitor is bigger than 3-5 inch screens, I could understand playing a DS game on a DS player connected to my TV, using the Revolution controller for my other stuff, and sets of controls for a DS player. useing the A and B on the main controller, or even a peripheral that would simulate the DS by putting A, B, X, Y, and R on the controller, and L with Start, Select, and directional on the other part, but then again, Nintendo didnt think about putting more buttons on the controller... maybe I could submit that as a V2 controller for the Revolution. ^_^ then again, I see that using up, Down, Left, and Right on the D-pad would function on the Rev controller would function like A, B, L, and R, with Start, Select, and Home still holding their functions, just adding the Nunchuku peripheral would add a movement control item to the game. ^_^ I think they did think that far ahead... CLEVER!! *points to Nintendo*

this is why Nintendo will always be the best in the gaming market, also most dependable.


Quite an interesting theory. smile

I'm not sure though.....wouldn't it be better to transfer one screen from the DS to the TV using Revo? I know you'll have to spend about $300 worth of both systems but that way you can keep both screens on the DS and just use one of them on the TV. Like with Kirby Canvas Curse.....just transfer the screen over and use the stylus as always.

Maybe I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I stand by my opinion for sure but I bet it's going to get turned down..... sweatdrop


there's a slight problem with that idea of emulating one scren. though use of the DS would remain, it would otherwise pose as a problem to some of us who cant fully concentrate on three screens. it is why the GBA/GC connection existed, to train us to adjust to two screens. emulating the both screens would benefit gamers better than a single screen being emulated, games like Metroid Pinball, and Metroid Prime Hunters on the DS require you to use both screens, as last I checked, some games have the 3D on the touch screen, while some have the 3D on both, not just games having the better display of graphics on just one screen. it would only need to display the top screen for use with GB/A/SP/Micro game carts, playing GB games on a machine in single screen mode makes the DS function like an extra wide GBASP.

DS functions simplified.
DS cart: dual screen play.
GBA cart: single screen play.

it was something I found early on in the DS info. emulating one screen would only function proporly on the DS' ability to emulate the GBA games, but both screens would be applied for the DS standard games. it would require you to use your judgement on where the stylus pointing of the infared controller eye would be in order to use the bottom screen proporly, as use of the Revolution controller is going to prove most vital in emulating the DS on a DS player. it would suit the gaming engine to employ a self righting system for screen emulation with a DS player. meaning it would have to be capable of identifying which games use only one screen, and what games use both screens.

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stythe

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:15 pm


First off, WHoever asked about the Seiken Densetsu games being Nintendo exclusive, no.
So far, they've stated there will be a DS one, and a PS2 one.
Both fine by me.

The re-releases of older FF games is fine by me.
I don't know why you all hate the Origins version for PS1. I have it, and I always enjoyed the original. FF2 isn't very good because of the level system, but they tried a different thing, and it didn't work. No biggie.
Either way, the games were just updated to have graphics from when FF was at it's best in my opinion (namely FF4).

I haven't bothered buying any of the FF games for GBA because I've already gone out of my way to buy them when they were first re-released for PS1, but I may be FF4, just because it was always my favorite.

One last thing. Although romming is illigal, I have to admit I'm surprised no one has tried to invent a DS emulator.
It just seems like a good idea. Using the mouse in place of a stylus would be pretty cool.
Still, I guess it doesn't matter, seeing as DS is online now.
Regardless, I'd probably buy the games anyway.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:34 pm


stythe
First off, WHoever asked about the Seiken Densetsu games being Nintendo exclusive, no.
So far, they've stated there will be a DS one, and a PS2 one.
Both fine by me.

The re-releases of older FF games is fine by me.
I don't know why you all hate the Origins version for PS1. I have it, and I always enjoyed the original. FF2 isn't very good because of the level system, but they tried a different thing, and it didn't work. No biggie.
Either way, the games were just updated to have graphics from when FF was at it's best in my opinion (namely FF4).

I haven't bothered buying any of the FF games for GBA because I've already gone out of my way to buy them when they were first re-released for PS1, but I may be FF4, just because it was always my favorite.

One last thing. Although romming is illigal, I have to admit I'm surprised no one has tried to invent a DS emulator.
It just seems like a good idea. Using the mouse in place of a stylus would be pretty cool.
Still, I guess it doesn't matter, seeing as DS is online now.
Regardless, I'd probably buy the games anyway.


Same here, though why no online play for CoM? neutral

ayukichan


RAPTOR948

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:05 pm


actually since sony stole the FF series from those of us who actually respect actual gaming, it would be only fair that the Seiken Densetsu games be Nintendo exclusive. besides, last time I tried any kind of game from sony it either crashed and froze, or it got so glitchy in a certain part it became unplayable. so I'm sticking to Nintendo, I tried the rest, I'll stick with the best, and the best is Nintendo.

out of the three current gen consoles I tried, sony is putting too many actions on the analong sticks, and not enough in the buttons. Microsoft is running the sticks wrong by not proporly dividing up the features on the sticks, and Nintendo divided up the features correctly. Nintendo has always made it worth the gamers while.

I will not tolerate some ignorant a** calling nintendo "kiddy", so if you call it kiddy expect me to be at your front door to beat you with a sledgehammer!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:07 pm


RAPTOR948
actually since sony stole the FF series from those of us who actually respect actual gaming, it would be only fair that the Seiken Densetsu games be Nintendo exclusive. besides, last time I tried any kind of game from sony it either crashed and froze, or it got so glitchy in a certain part it became unplayable. so I'm sticking to Nintendo, I tried the rest, I'll stick with the best, and the best is Nintendo.

out of the three current gen consoles I tried, sony is putting too many actions on the analong sticks, and not enough in the buttons. Microsoft is running the sticks wrong by not proporly dividing up the features on the sticks, and Nintendo divided up the features correctly. Nintendo has always made it worth the gamers while.

I will not tolerate some ignorant a** calling nintendo "kiddy", so if you call it kiddy expect me to be at your front door to beat you with a sledgehammer!


That would be a lot of people, then. Good luck.

And anyway, Seiken Densetsu isn't Nintendo exclusive, but here's the catch: FF doesn't entirely belong to Sony anymore. It's on GBA and DS as well as PSP. Don't let the term remake turn you off. If the rereleases continue to be successful on Ninty's handhelds Square may eventually change its plans and go multiplatform.....

ayukichan


TurMacar

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:02 pm


stythe
First off, WHoever asked about the Seiken Densetsu games being Nintendo exclusive, no.
So far, they've stated there will be a DS one, and a PS2 one.
Both fine by me.

The re-releases of older FF games is fine by me.
I don't know why you all hate the Origins version for PS1. I have it, and I always enjoyed the original. FF2 isn't very good because of the level system, but they tried a different thing, and it didn't work. No biggie.
Either way, the games were just updated to have graphics from when FF was at it's best in my opinion (namely FF4).

I haven't bothered buying any of the FF games for GBA because I've already gone out of my way to buy them when they were first re-released for PS1, but I may be FF4, just because it was always my favorite.

One last thing. Although romming is illigal, I have to admit I'm surprised no one has tried to invent a DS emulator.
It just seems like a good idea. Using the mouse in place of a stylus would be pretty cool.
Still, I guess it doesn't matter, seeing as DS is online now.
Regardless, I'd probably buy the games anyway.


eh. I like the GBA relreleases more for the fact that they're portable. I own 4-9 for PS1....no PS2 for me...
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