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Fauxlorne

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:13 am


I'd like to point out - If we are talking about fantasy - isn't anything possible?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:56 am


Well, I know it's fantasy but let's not get crazy about it either. You know? I mean, is it just me or are there things that wouldn't be possible even IN fantasy? rolleyes

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Fauxlorne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:07 am


- I suppose it depends what level of fantasy. Plus - you have the whole idea of reality being stranger then fiction. Things being based on something else... all kinds of variables working to and fro!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:14 am


Umh, I somewhat agree with Fauxlorne, its true its fantasy, so technically - even if you do base the breeds on biological facts - it will still be fictional.

We all rely on some stereotypes of the way these creatures supposed to act \ look, when a single fantasy writer can just re-write the creatures biology as he wishes, becayse they're not real. It depends on the more popular descriptions of breeds that for some reason everyone chooses to follow. I think this concerns all fantasy beings. Elves wouldn't look like elves unless someone had decided them to be that way, and the rest followed.

And yet, since vampires, by definition, are dead, its unlikely for them to feed off dragons. Hehe, now I got carried away with this.... it just hit me in some stories I've read dragons' blood can symbolize eternity[most dragons are immortal], but in others its deadly. Interesting... User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show. What WILL happen to a living corpse after drinking dragon blood? lol. This is completely surreal. I guess it will just kill the critter, long silent death.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:32 am


I guess it's just me then, he-he. sweatdrop

I see yer point though. The first person who imagines something new tends to be seen as a visionary, and it gets to be popular then everybody has to stick to that if they want to write about the subject. One can only wonder what new kinds of races or breeds we'll get to see in the future. I want to make new kinds too and I've done so once or twice. mrgreen

And that's what Mel and I thought about vampires feeding off dragons. I guess we weren't alone on that one, eh? rolleyes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:39 pm


*oh* I like it! Vampires drinking from dragons! What about unicorns?!

If a vampire drinks from a Jedi does their midichlorian count go up!?

rofl - I'm a little loopy today...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:28 pm


A vampire unicorn? I never thought about that one! neutral

That's a bit odd and I'd like to ask George Lucas what he thinks could happen, he-he.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:42 pm


There's another thing it'sm uch more believable with something like a unicorn, or a pegauses(sp?) because they're bassiclly just mutated horses xd

Anyway to explain: In many stories vampires feed of the blood of animals rather than humans. A horse is an animal. Unicorns have the same basic-biological structure as horses. So it would not be so unbelievable for a vampire to suck the blood of a unicorn?

If a unicorn was bitten by a vampire would it not contract porphyric hemophilia/vampires desease/ vampirism? If it did then that would be a weird sight indeed: a unicorn attacking animals for their blood neutral

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:16 pm


Wow, I never did an "I hate crossbreeds" rant in here...

Not that its much of a rant... it's basically that. And without reason. It just tastes funny in my mouth. (I think it has to do with an immense dislike for half-elves... minus of course if we are talking about Tolkein's work, then they are most likable...)

... anyways... wouldn't the nature of the unicorn and vampire make them unmixable?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:16 pm


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There's another thing it'sm uch more believable with something like a unicorn, or a pegauses(sp?) because they're bassiclly just mutated horses xd

Anyway to explain: In many stories vampires feed of the blood of animals rather than humans. A horse is an animal. Unicorns have the same basic-biological structure as horses. So it would not be so unbelievable for a vampire to suck the blood of a unicorn?

If a unicorn was bitten by a vampire would it not contract porphyric hemophilia/vampires desease/ vampirism? If it did then that would be a weird sight indeed: a unicorn attacking animals for their blood neutral

In my opinion, the vampirism doesn't take over unless the victim also takes in the blood of the vampire.

Besides, why would a humanoid creature want to procreate with a creature that's completely unlike itself? An intelligent being like a vampire isn't going to even try to turn an animal which is far less intelligent than it.

It's like a dog mating with a cat, or a horse mating with a cow. It just DOESN'T happen. Only the minds of the sick and twisted think having a bit of fun with an animal would think something like that up. The only reason why elves and humans will procreate together is because they're of the same kind of physical structure and intelligence. Are we now going to have a theory about how elves can procreate with deer or something?

This is why I HATE the concept of centaurs. How the **** would a human and a horse even DO such a thing? WHY would they do such a thing? And to be perfectly honest I don't think human sperm would work in a horse, or a horse's sperm work in a human (besides with the fact that centaurs are part horse, there's no way a human female could do it), it's UNIMAGINABLE and completely impossible. Who's to say that vampirism would work on an animal anyway? In my opinion it may just kill the animal or drive it insane.

I don't mean to sound harsh or crude if I do but it had to be said.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:42 pm


Point taken, though I still disagree. It is most likely coming from the fact that from my view the vampires blood would not have to enter the creature in order for it to turn. I think of it as a vampire trying to feed on something to keep itself alive rather than trying to turn somethign into a vampire... Even if it wouldn't want to, that still isnt my point. My point was COULD SUCH A THING EXIST? NOT WOULD.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:10 pm


Actually, a vampire dragon sounds like a not-so-implausible alternative to a Dracolich to me. Of course, that assumes the dragon is sentient and has a desire to live forever. Becoming a vampire would not be such a bad way of going about it. It sounds like a pretty good monster for an epic-level D&D campaign, to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:16 pm


I agree with Berz, especially if it's like a dragon similar to the one seen in that "Dragonheart" movie that could talk with the voice of Sean Connery.
I think a dragon might want to turn vampiric but, would it work? neutral
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:27 am


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I agree with Berz, especially if it's like a dragon similar to the one seen in that "Dragonheart" movie that could talk with the voice of Sean Connery.
I think a dragon might want to turn vampiric but, would it work? neutral

In my opinion, if a dragon vampire was created in the same way Dracula came about, then perhaps. Not a humanoid vampire biting a dragon. Ever tried to bite an alligator with its skin still on? Even a person with sharp pointed fangs wouldn't get very far. Dragon skin is meant to be EXTREMELY thick and when you think about a 19-20ft alligator which has thick skin and compare it to a lizard that's 100 or more feet long, you're talking the impossible. You couldn't really cross a dragon vampire with a person because...well, being bitten by a dragon on the neck or any limb is going to kill (and I mean literally kill, not just "kill" as in the slang term used for extreme pain).

If a dragon became vampiric in the same way that Dracula became a vampire, and then went around biting others of its kind then perhaps there would be some clarity. However, I hate the concept with a vengeance and would never read anything of the likes.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:43 pm


Good point Mel! I failed to see the ramifications of it but now that you've mentioned them, it seems impossible to have a vampire dragon in any kind of fantasy. Well, at least in the way you mentioned of a vampire having to bite a dragon to turn them or something. The thing is, could a dragon ever be as wise and intelligent to know how to turn vampiric in the first place?

Say, has anyone ever heard of a half human, half lion? Or how about a half elf, half lion? Could one of these crossbreeds be interesting to read about?
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