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 Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:33 pm
Ceribri However, RTD is responsible for quite a few mediocre/bad scripts. The second series of Queer as Folk. A couple of scenes in the last episode of The Second Coming and that's about it. Maybe one day he'll write a bad Doctor Who script.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:08 pm
Hairy Priest On the other hand, the new Cybermen are waaaaay too wussy. A whole army of 'em can't even scratch four uppity Daleks. And their heads have this weird tendency to spontaneously explode...
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:52 am
Richard_Swift Ceribri However, RTD is responsible for quite a few mediocre/bad scripts. The second series of Queer as Folk. A couple of scenes in the last episode of The Second Coming and that's about it. Maybe one day he'll write a bad Doctor Who script. Ahh, everybody writes a bad script sometimes :3 I've no doubt he will one day.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:59 pm
RainbowJellyBaby Richard_Swift Ceribri However, RTD is responsible for quite a few mediocre/bad scripts. The second series of Queer as Folk. A couple of scenes in the last episode of The Second Coming and that's about it. Maybe one day he'll write a bad Doctor Who script. Ahh, everybody writes a bad script sometimes :3 I've no doubt he will one day. Actually, since writing that post I've remembered there has been one RTD Who script I haven't liked - The Runaway Bride. So hopefully that was his one, and the rest can all stay up to his usual standard! smile
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:30 am
Richard_Swift Ceribri However, RTD is responsible for quite a few mediocre/bad scripts. The second series of Queer as Folk. A couple of scenes in the last episode of The Second Coming and that's about it. Maybe one day he'll write a bad Doctor Who script. *cough*Love And Monsters*cough*
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:22 pm
tennantsbutterfly Richard_Swift Ceribri However, RTD is responsible for quite a few mediocre/bad scripts. The second series of Queer as Folk. A couple of scenes in the last episode of The Second Coming and that's about it. Maybe one day he'll write a bad Doctor Who script. *cough*Love And Monsters*cough* *cough* Philistines*cough* wink
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:12 pm
Richard_Swift, I'll have to disagree, the Runaway Bride had a good script, but many have a problem with Tate. But I thought she was hilarious in that episode. Feel free to disagree.
As for tennantsbutterfly, Love and Monsters was quite brilliant, I am shocked that some people do not like that episode, it's one of the best in Series 2. Again feel free to disagree.
On the Evolution matter, I personally enjoyed Daleks in Manhattan. On the other hand it took quite a few viewings to even some-what like it's second part. So there's my opinion. mrgreen
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:12 am
Dr. Demented Richard_Swift, I'll have to disagree, the Runaway Bride had a good script, but many have a problem with Tate. But I thought she was hilarious in that episode. Feel free to disagree. I think the script had a few great moments (mostly those where Russ was channeling Cornell again wink ) but didn't really have the sort of cohesion it needed to be proper 'event' telly like his previous Christmas special had been. I think it trusted too much to that exhilarating special effects sequence and to Catherine Tate, whom I don't enjoy myself. Donna ought to be given a fair chance as a companion though. Russ is a very self-critical writer, and I don't think he'd be bringing her back if he wasn't sure that there was a way to develop the character past the perceived problems. And Tate's comedy career may be a bit rubbish, but lets face it, so was Jon Pertwee's and he did alright once he was in role. Consider every word ever I utter to come with a 'feel free to disagree' tag. smile Dr. Demented As for tennantsbutterfly, Love and Monsters was quite brilliant, I am shocked that some people do not like that episode, it's one of the best in Series 2. Again I'm not alone! smile For me then I think it's only The Girl in the Fireplace that betters it in Season 2.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:15 am
My favourite revived monsters have to be the Macra cos I really, really didn't see them coming.
On the 'Love And Monsters Debate' I liked it through most of the story up until the monster revealed himself. I just really didn't like the monster and I didn't like Peter Kay playing him, even though Peter Kay has done some great comedy in his time. But a comedian in a fat suit is just not my sort of Who.
The actual group and the away-from-Doctor story worked really well though.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:05 am
I'd agree with Roobarb - that monster was ridiculous. And... she gets turned into a paving slab?!
Anyway, I'm going to go for the cybermen. The original cybermen were great (I've only seen Earthshock, though), but I thought the new ones were quite sinister in a way that tinfoil costumes can't ever be.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:02 pm
Dr. Demented Love and Monsters was quite brilliant, I am shocked that some people do not like that episode, it's one of the best in Series 2.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:56 pm
Crumpet Lord Dr. Demented Love and Monsters was quite brilliant, I am shocked that some people do not like that episode, it's one of the best in Series 2.
I echo your sentiment, Crumpet Lord. 3nodding
However, despite however bad/good it may be, I couldn't help but notice one thing that I didn't see in any other episode of the new season.
They mention Torchwood, of course. But.. they also mention Bad Wolf, and here's the kicker: Saxon is mentioned too.
In one scene, the Torchwood files on the Doctor and Rose were given to the LINDA group.
In the exact same scene, The Bad Wolf virus is mentioned to have wiped out most of the information on Rose (go figure).
And: if you pause the screen when Kennedy is holding the newspaper with his alien appendages, you can see that the headline says "Saxon 64% up in polls" (or something to that effect)
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:50 am
Reading all of theses "good script or bad script" comments has got me thinking.
Is there really a "bad script"? Methinks it's based mainly on opinion. For instance, some say that Castrovalva, 5th's first episode was tremendously good, and although I thoroughly enjoyed it, I couldn't help thinking that it could have been better. It may have just been Adric's acting, but... wink
Also, 6th's episode Timelash, frequently acknowledged as being "weakly scripted, with uninspiring sets". To be honest, most of his seasons are downtrodden, but I haven't seen a 6th Doctor story that I haven't enjoyed.
As for the new series, I'm glad they managed to keep up the great scripts through nearly every episode of the first two series', and most of the third. I don't think there's really a script that should be thought of as putting Doctor Who to shame. It's only if there's a noticeably terrible script, i.e, written to the standard of a 5 year old on a sugar high (no sarcastic references to 10th's personality, thanks whee ) that I'd say "That was a Doctor Who episode with a terrible script".
Just thought I'd let myself be known, of course :3 Care to give us your views, anyone? mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:42 am
I think there's a mix up between good scripts, good stories, good monsters and good acting.
A lot of people don't like the stories of certain episodes. That doesn't mean they were badly written, just the story didn't appeal. With 'Love and Monsters' it was the monster I didn't like, the script and acting were both good... the story wavered a bit at the end with the paving slab.
I'd say there are very few bad scripts in Doctor Who... though you get occasional cheesy scenes. I used to find the 7th Doctor stuff not bad exactly but weird. I always thought that what people said, especially Ace and the Doctor, didn't sound quite like something they would actually say... though the words were great and probably read fine on paper.
Also, I'm not a fan of the mix of David Tennants acting with the scripts they give him, especially the hyperactive bits. But some people love him for that... so I can't really claim it's bad.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:09 am
ROOBARB-- I know what you mean 3nodding I've met a few stories that just didn't appeal to me. The actors were good, and the script was thoughtfully written, but I didn't enjoy the story as much as I could have.
I mean, I've only seen one 7th Doctor episode, called Ghost Light. Sadly, it didn't appeal to me at all. I can't help but wish that my viewing of the 7th Doctor was pushed off better with an episode that I enjoyed.
n_n Attitudes towards certain Doctors are unique with everyone 3nodding I mean, my favorite Doctors are, in the lead, 6th, then 5th, and 8th. I'm not a huge Tom Baker fanatic at all, and quite frankly, I don't understand the huge amazement in his character. I know that he's the best know Classic Series Doctor, but in my opinion, he's overrated. Doesn't mean I don't value the opinion of other Doctor Who Fans, though. :3
I'm happy that they've managed to retain Doctor Who's good name. mrgreen
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