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 Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:42 pm
Axel of Anime Like I said I dont claim it's true and I didn't know she was christian. I guess it all depends on how you look at it...I'm still not reading it though... You don't have to. Links to sites that discuss HP in a Christian sense. what Christians think about Harry PotterJ.K. Rowling, Inkling?Harry Potter and the Predicament of AzkabanI especially liked this piece, on JK's faith and the future of the series: Quote: She has said she is a Christian and believes in God, and that she attends church. In an interview with The Vancouver Sun, she said it suits her to keep mum about her beliefs, "because if I talk too freely about that, I think the intelligent reader, whether 10 or 60, will be able to guess what's coming in the books." It backs me up in my theory that the books are shaped to become a Chirstian Allegory, like LOTR and Narnia!
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:40 pm
Well, what I think is its OK to read them, as long as you don't belive them and you don't follow them. And I'm baptized! 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:08 am
Weirdo55 According to the Bible, Chi, since it is not a tool of God, is a tool of Satan, so yea, it is bad. Okay.... But martial arts (by which many people know about chi in the first place) is not mentioned in the Bible. Does that mean that the art of self-defense is a tool of Satan? Am not being insulting. Just wanted to know.
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:44 pm
Weirdo55 According to the Bible, Chi, since it is not a tool of God, is a tool of Satan, so yea, it is bad. so, a Screwdriver is a Tool of Satan? WE know it is not a tool of God, so it must be, right? Excluding those Blessed by the Pope.
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:51 pm
Takai_desu_yo Weirdo55 According to the Bible, Chi, since it is not a tool of God, is a tool of Satan, so yea, it is bad. so, a Screwdriver is a Tool of Satan? WE know it is not a tool of God, so it must be, right? Excluding those Blessed by the Pope. What about hammers? (sorry, couldn't resist)
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:06 am
i think it's okay because it's just a cinema thing used for entertainment. i mean it'd be one thing if it was non-fiction, but these stories came out of the mind of a fictional book author.
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:20 pm
I guess it would be okay to read them, but you would have to be able for it not to have a bad influence on you. You know, be mature enough. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:41 am
OK, what I think is that as long as the person that is reading it knows the truth and everything, that it's ok, I mean a stupid harry potter book wouldn't change everything I've been taught.. ALSO, My dad does not allow me to read them sweatdrop , he thinks that they will poison my mind.. Although he let me read the Artemis Fowl books.. strange.. *rolls eyes*
stare BIG THANKS GOES OUT TO Shinja_Odoriko, that just plain rox!!!!! smile
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:12 am
Now an HP debate? Looks like I'll have to defend all that is unholy once again. Megan Ozark (aka Shinja_Odoriko); Christian Gay Rights Activist and avid Harry Potter fan! xd
But seriously, yes magik is real. Some one very dear to me weilds it. But Harry Potter is a book. The magic used in it is dissimilar from the magik wiccans and the like weild. Now please don't mistake this statement as something I know from personal experience, but rather it is something wiccans have said themselves.
An interesting (one sided in my opinion) book on the HP issue is "Harry Potter and the Bible: The Menace Behind the Magik" (sorry, but I cannot recall the author and I'm not digging the book out of moving boxes to find him. >.o) It reinterates the same 4 or so supports on why the Harry Potter books are evil. But I believe in hear both sides of the argument before coming to a descision, hence the purchase of this book.
I personally would rather have my children reading a work of fantasy than watching 'violence in movies and sex on TV', to quote the Family Guy theme song. I suppose the way I see it is some people living in a very sheltered world and seem to forget everything can't always be perfectly their way. Yes, Harry Potter involves some unChristian values, but so do so many other things we enjoy. If we are to stamp out unGod-like things, it must be ALL unGod-like things; no double standards.
Whelp, I have to be heading off to bed. I'm pretty sure I'll be back to debate some more later. 3nodding
Oyasumeinasai and God bless.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:24 pm
Maeko-Hana I think I'm probably one of the people thats on the, "Its just a book...who really cares" side of the issue...i haven't read them, but i've seen the movies...My two cousins have read them and really enjoyed the books...they are christians as well...I guess its just all how you look at it...I see it as a really interesting set of stories that inspire imagination, curiousity and happiness...*shrugs*
Harry Potter is just a book! A children's book! So what if they want to believe in magic? We all believe in magic of some sort. Like love! Who can't say true love isn't magical? Who can't say the birth of a child isn't magical? Are you saying that since love and birth are magical and "all magic is bad and evil" that love and birth are unacceptable? That book itself is in a branch of fictional magic. It is enchanting and believable enough to children that it can take you away in your imagination. BUT IT IS NOT REAL. It's just a book FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!
At least these characters aren't Wiccans and trying to call demons from the deapths of hell. I doubt Harry Potter ever converted a Christian into a Wiccan or another branch of Majik or Magik brand idiots.
You want an un-Christian book? Then read Tithe [pretty sure that's the title] or Flowers for Algernon (novel version). Tithe is all about magic and fae and gay people. Flower for Algernon is all about sex. He gets smart, he falls in "love", and he lust for Ms. Kinnian all book! They finally have sex, but outside of marriage. Really pissed me off. Read those books then tell me Harry Potter is bad and un-Christian.
Another argument to go into [which I won't for the time] Harry celebrates Christmas. Hogwarts goes full out for Christmas! Over-looked detail? Maybe.
JK herself also said she does not believe in magic. So don't take your "i hat hary potr bcase he be un-christian nd so is JK!!!11!!1onshift" out on her.
In the end, I don't think Harry Potter is unChristian. Rather my child believe in a world where "good magic" is used to save the day, then a world of reality TV where drugs, violence, and sex rule everyday lives.
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:12 pm
I have read all the harry potter books and have seen the movies and have a shirt of harry potter. Im probobly on the side of i like the books but i dont think there good. Like somtimes ill read a mormon bible just to know what to look out for. Im not saying harry potter or mormanism is the right thing but what im saying is you can read somthing that you think is horrible and evil and is true just to know what to look out for.
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:54 pm
I can understand your point.
But I think it is taking it too far
The book is meant to entertain, not transmit a message of witchcraft and sorcery to the world.
With that said, there are a lot of things that we could deem evil because it is in literature. Killing is in many books (even ones we read in school)
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:47 am
this could also be applied to other fictional series like Lord of the Rings for example. I think it is a very well-written FICTIONAL book and if Christians condemned every fictional book that had to do with something that goes against the Bible, then there probably wouldn't be any books left to read. I think you can read fiction and realize it's fiction, but if you go past the line and think that it's real and ok, then that's the problem.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:31 pm
Yeah! We Catholics are al Lord Of The Rings Fans!!!
Yeah, I must agree though. I am Anto-Potter... my friend betrayed me and became a HUMG Fan crying alwell, she is still me best firend wink
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:27 pm
Mako18 I can understand your point.
But I think it is taking it too far
The book is meant to entertain, not transmit a message of witchcraft and sorcery to the world.
With that said, there are a lot of things that we could deem evil because it is in literature. Killing is in many books (even ones we read in school)
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