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 Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:42 pm
Ok, my breakdown of the democratic candidates:
Clinton- Lies, flip-flops issues, actress, experienced
Obama- So far is truthful, sticks to his ideals, inexperienced
I'm not going into the republican side because frankly they tend to be way too traditional for my tastes.
My choice = Obama. So far he has given me no reason to be wary about what he says. He is honest, straight to the point, and believes what he believes, not what he thinks people want him to believe. So he doesn't have as much experience as Clinton does, but sometimes more experience does not mean better choice.
As for the issues you listed, I'm not sure about Iraq, still on the borderline for that. I'm pro-gay rights. I'm pro-choice. I believe we need more help with immigration control, but not cutting it off completely. I'm also not so sure on the social security or taxes issues. (My coworker would kill me for not being fully informed. biggrin )
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:11 am
IrinChendale
Ok, my breakdown of the democratic candidates:
Clinton- Lies, flip-flops issues, actress, experienced
Obama- So far is truthful, sticks to his ideals, inexperienced
I'm not going into the republican side because frankly they tend to be way too traditional for my tastes.
My choice = Obama. So far he has given me no reason to be wary about what he says. He is honest, straight to the point, and believes what he believes, not what he thinks people want him to believe. So he doesn't have as much experience as Clinton does, but sometimes more experience does not mean better choice.
As for the issues you listed, I'm not sure about Iraq, still on the borderline for that. I'm pro-gay rights. I'm pro-choice. I believe we need more help with immigration control, but not cutting it off completely. I'm also not so sure on the social security or taxes issues. (My coworker would kill me for not being fully informed. biggrin )I like Clinton. Honestly, she doesn't really lie or flip-flop. But there's tons or rotten propaganda going around about her because of sexist pigs. They say that she's an ice cube because she's strong and states her opinions clearly and forcefully, and then when she shows even the tiniest bit of emotion (I saw that clip and she was not crying) they call her a cry baby and say she's to emotional to be president. The male candidates wear the same suit every day, but if she were to wear an outfit twice people would be shocked. She wears a shirt that's slightly low cut (there was no cleavage, once again I saw the clip) and they say she's trying to seduce voters. My mom wears shirts that are more low cut than that! It's obscene. No matter what she does she just can't win because they find some way to twist it against her. I like Obama. But if people said some of the things they say to Clinton to Obama there would be riots. I don't know why they can get away with saying it to Clinton.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:18 am
Hydra-Star IrinChendale
Ok, my breakdown of the democratic candidates:
Clinton- Lies, flip-flops issues, actress, experienced
Obama- So far is truthful, sticks to his ideals, inexperienced
I'm not going into the republican side because frankly they tend to be way too traditional for my tastes.
My choice = Obama. So far he has given me no reason to be wary about what he says. He is honest, straight to the point, and believes what he believes, not what he thinks people want him to believe. So he doesn't have as much experience as Clinton does, but sometimes more experience does not mean better choice.
As for the issues you listed, I'm not sure about Iraq, still on the borderline for that. I'm pro-gay rights. I'm pro-choice. I believe we need more help with immigration control, but not cutting it off completely. I'm also not so sure on the social security or taxes issues. (My coworker would kill me for not being fully informed. biggrin )I like Clinton. Honestly, she doesn't really lie or flip-flop. But there's tons or rotten propaganda going around about her because of sexist pigs. They say that she's an ice cube because she's strong and states her opinions clearly and forcefully, and then when she shows even the tiniest bit of emotion (I saw that clip and she was not crying) they call her a cry baby and say she's to emotional to be president. The male candidates wear the same suit every day, but if she were to wear an outfit twice people would be shocked. She wears a shirt that's slightly low cut (there was no cleavage, once again I saw the clip) and they say she's trying to seduce voters. My mom wears shirts that are more low cut than that! It's obscene. No matter what she does she just can't win because they find some way to twist it against her. I like Obama. But if people said some of the things they say to Clinton to Obama there would be riots. I don't know why they can get away with saying it to Clinton. The problem with all of it is that mudslinging is, to a point, allowed. Anyone can say anything about anyone and it doesn't matter if they "take it back" or not. It's already out there and in the public's mind. Especially since a good portion of the public wont research all the facts. I saw a clip of Clinton actually crying though, so I don't know.
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:37 am
IrinChendale Hydra-Star IrinChendale
Ok, my breakdown of the democratic candidates:
Clinton- Lies, flip-flops issues, actress, experienced
Obama- So far is truthful, sticks to his ideals, inexperienced
I'm not going into the republican side because frankly they tend to be way too traditional for my tastes.
My choice = Obama. So far he has given me no reason to be wary about what he says. He is honest, straight to the point, and believes what he believes, not what he thinks people want him to believe. So he doesn't have as much experience as Clinton does, but sometimes more experience does not mean better choice.
As for the issues you listed, I'm not sure about Iraq, still on the borderline for that. I'm pro-gay rights. I'm pro-choice. I believe we need more help with immigration control, but not cutting it off completely. I'm also not so sure on the social security or taxes issues. (My coworker would kill me for not being fully informed. biggrin )I like Clinton. Honestly, she doesn't really lie or flip-flop. But there's tons or rotten propaganda going around about her because of sexist pigs. They say that she's an ice cube because she's strong and states her opinions clearly and forcefully, and then when she shows even the tiniest bit of emotion (I saw that clip and she was not crying) they call her a cry baby and say she's to emotional to be president. The male candidates wear the same suit every day, but if she were to wear an outfit twice people would be shocked. She wears a shirt that's slightly low cut (there was no cleavage, once again I saw the clip) and they say she's trying to seduce voters. My mom wears shirts that are more low cut than that! It's obscene. No matter what she does she just can't win because they find some way to twist it against her. I like Obama. But if people said some of the things they say to Clinton to Obama there would be riots. I don't know why they can get away with saying it to Clinton. The problem with all of it is that mudslinging is, to a point, allowed. Anyone can say anything about anyone and it doesn't matter if they "take it back" or not. It's already out there and in the public's mind. Especially since a good portion of the public wont research all the facts. I saw a clip of Clinton actually crying though, so I don't know. It's stupid as hell. A bunch of sexist buttheads spread all these lies and ignorant people believe them. I would like to see this clip. Do you have it?
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:45 pm
Hydra-Star IrinChendale Hydra-Star IrinChendale
Ok, my breakdown of the democratic candidates:
Clinton- Lies, flip-flops issues, actress, experienced
Obama- So far is truthful, sticks to his ideals, inexperienced
I'm not going into the republican side because frankly they tend to be way too traditional for my tastes.
My choice = Obama. So far he has given me no reason to be wary about what he says. He is honest, straight to the point, and believes what he believes, not what he thinks people want him to believe. So he doesn't have as much experience as Clinton does, but sometimes more experience does not mean better choice.
As for the issues you listed, I'm not sure about Iraq, still on the borderline for that. I'm pro-gay rights. I'm pro-choice. I believe we need more help with immigration control, but not cutting it off completely. I'm also not so sure on the social security or taxes issues. (My coworker would kill me for not being fully informed. biggrin )I like Clinton. Honestly, she doesn't really lie or flip-flop. But there's tons or rotten propaganda going around about her because of sexist pigs. They say that she's an ice cube because she's strong and states her opinions clearly and forcefully, and then when she shows even the tiniest bit of emotion (I saw that clip and she was not crying) they call her a cry baby and say she's to emotional to be president. The male candidates wear the same suit every day, but if she were to wear an outfit twice people would be shocked. She wears a shirt that's slightly low cut (there was no cleavage, once again I saw the clip) and they say she's trying to seduce voters. My mom wears shirts that are more low cut than that! It's obscene. No matter what she does she just can't win because they find some way to twist it against her. I like Obama. But if people said some of the things they say to Clinton to Obama there would be riots. I don't know why they can get away with saying it to Clinton. The problem with all of it is that mudslinging is, to a point, allowed. Anyone can say anything about anyone and it doesn't matter if they "take it back" or not. It's already out there and in the public's mind. Especially since a good portion of the public wont research all the facts. I saw a clip of Clinton actually crying though, so I don't know. It's stupid as hell. A bunch of sexist buttheads spread all these lies and ignorant people believe them. I would like to see this clip. Do you have it? I saw it on CNN during break one day at work, so no unfortunately I don't have it. And I spend most of my time on CNN.com in the crime section, not so much in the election section, so I don't know if it's on there at all or not. I admit, I really do need to keep in mind that news shows don't show everything. *Shrug.*
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:59 am
IrinChendale Hydra-Star IrinChendale Hydra-Star IrinChendale
Ok, my breakdown of the democratic candidates:
Clinton- Lies, flip-flops issues, actress, experienced
Obama- So far is truthful, sticks to his ideals, inexperienced
I'm not going into the republican side because frankly they tend to be way too traditional for my tastes.
My choice = Obama. So far he has given me no reason to be wary about what he says. He is honest, straight to the point, and believes what he believes, not what he thinks people want him to believe. So he doesn't have as much experience as Clinton does, but sometimes more experience does not mean better choice.
As for the issues you listed, I'm not sure about Iraq, still on the borderline for that. I'm pro-gay rights. I'm pro-choice. I believe we need more help with immigration control, but not cutting it off completely. I'm also not so sure on the social security or taxes issues. (My coworker would kill me for not being fully informed. biggrin )I like Clinton. Honestly, she doesn't really lie or flip-flop. But there's tons or rotten propaganda going around about her because of sexist pigs. They say that she's an ice cube because she's strong and states her opinions clearly and forcefully, and then when she shows even the tiniest bit of emotion (I saw that clip and she was not crying) they call her a cry baby and say she's to emotional to be president. The male candidates wear the same suit every day, but if she were to wear an outfit twice people would be shocked. She wears a shirt that's slightly low cut (there was no cleavage, once again I saw the clip) and they say she's trying to seduce voters. My mom wears shirts that are more low cut than that! It's obscene. No matter what she does she just can't win because they find some way to twist it against her. I like Obama. But if people said some of the things they say to Clinton to Obama there would be riots. I don't know why they can get away with saying it to Clinton. The problem with all of it is that mudslinging is, to a point, allowed. Anyone can say anything about anyone and it doesn't matter if they "take it back" or not. It's already out there and in the public's mind. Especially since a good portion of the public wont research all the facts. I saw a clip of Clinton actually crying though, so I don't know. It's stupid as hell. A bunch of sexist buttheads spread all these lies and ignorant people believe them. I would like to see this clip. Do you have it? I saw it on CNN during break one day at work, so no unfortunately I don't have it. And I spend most of my time on CNN.com in the crime section, not so much in the election section, so I don't know if it's on there at all or not. I admit, I really do need to keep in mind that news shows don't show everything. *Shrug.* True. Shame you don't have it, but whatever. I've been to both Clinton and Obama rallies and I found Clinton to be much more impressive. Obama was probably a better speaker, but I liked her stands on the issues better.
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:59 pm
YAY! Obama won!! I wish I'd seen this thread earlier, I've been so hooked on the elections this year its not even funny lol. But Obama won by 6% over McCain! *woot*
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:06 am
XD I'm so happy! It's amazing that he won. I was in Chicago at the time. It was like the entire city just transformed. People were happy. Even the weather was nice!
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:51 pm
And once he's inaugurated (you crazy Americans and your transition period) the longest election I've ever seen will finally end. How is it so complicated? In Canada we do an entire campaign and election in about two months.
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:20 pm
Luciferian_Depression And once he's inaugurated (you crazy Americans and your transition period) the longest election I've ever seen will finally end. How is it so complicated? In Canada we do an entire campaign and election in about two months. Ah, well, back in the old days, it was brief, just like in Canada. I think the campaign for this election was so big because people were desperate for Bush to get kicked out. x]]] Well, it's over now, anyways~ heart
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:38 pm
Kyros_DeLove Luciferian_Depression And once he's inaugurated (you crazy Americans and your transition period) the longest election I've ever seen will finally end. How is it so complicated? In Canada we do an entire campaign and election in about two months. Ah, well, back in the old days, it was brief, just like in Canada. I think the campaign for this election was so big because people were desperate for Bush to get kicked out. x]]] Well, it's over now, anyways~ heart So, wouldn't that mean you'd want it to be faster, rather than having it take longer than usual?
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