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Vampires and friends from the 2007 Halloween event come together in peace for Brotherhood 

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:42 pm


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I have been watching this conversation from afar for quite some time. Through this I have learned a great deal about each and every one of you. Some, seek violence, others, a calm. There can truly be no compromise here, or, at least, one in which everyone chooses one side. It cannot be helped really, we are children of the night, we are the children of our late Lord Vladimir, we are vampires.

Yes, it is true that we do need sustenance, but there are still alternate means to feeding. We need not destroy life to give it. We are living in death my brothers in sisters, a true paradox of nature. If we can accomplish everlasting life, I am sure we can accomplish something realistic, something, we can all agree to in the end.

I do not wish to go about my homeland, Gaia, destroying the friends, the family I grew up with that did not wish to turn to our side, in order to survive. A blood bank cannot sustain this number of vampires to be sure, but something else can be done. I know it.

We are truly a competent lot, every individual here knows a thing or two. Alex, I know you, even you would show remorse, there are hunters, and there are others, ones who cannot defend themselves, children, mothers, the elderly. Think of it on a moral standpoint.

I will not make any decisions as of now. I want everyone to pine it over, think about both the pros and the cons of either decision, to be peaceful, or to be offensive. Your decision may or may not reflect what Lady Zi decides, or what I decide, or it in fact, may. It is as uncertain as a new day.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please PM me.

Thank you.

~~ Kiba
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"Learn by doing",
and similar clichés have merit.
Take their advice; I'm busy.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:18 pm


You speak words of wisdom, as always, My Brother.

Yes, for a member of our kind, I'm... What you may call, special... And yes, we live in death, isn't that our motto? Isn't that what The Brotherhood represents? In Vita Mors, In Morte Vita.

We must kill to preserve our own existence, we must kill to spread existence and immortality.

Of course, the more human of our kin will seek for romantic solutions, feed from animals, maybe dying humans who can not be saved.

But Brothers and Sisters, The Hunger is cruel, it grows stronger within us every night, you'll soon realize that hunting small animals to survive is not enough, and you have to move to bigger animals... What happens when that is not enough? The blood of the mortals, doesn't it have an exquisite taste when mixed with the adrenaline, product of their own fear?

I do not kill without a reason, among all the trash mortals are, there are some of them that can be saved, and some of them, I even dare to say, we could learn or re-learn a thing or two.

What happens when someone stands in the way of the Von Helsons? In the way of The Brotherhood? I'd do whatever it is in my power to defend what The Brotherhood stands for, what The Von Helsons stand for, what Lord Vladimir Von Helson wanted.

For a Damned, I can show passion on what I believe in, unfortunately, most of the mortals would rather stake us instead of trying to understand us.

Mortals, by nature, are terribly afraid of what they can not understand, or control... They know nothing about us, out of mere theories, both partially right, and completely wrong.

Would I feel remorse for killing a mortal?

It deppends, if it's another rabid creature, just handing a stake and willing to destroy everything that is out of his knowledge and control, then the answer is no, I would not feel remorse at all, that kind of creature should not be allowed to even exist, now, unfortunately, those mortal traits have been transferred to our glorious kind and some Brothers and Sisters tend to fall into fanatism and express the same behaviour mortals express.

But, if the mortal in question is someone wise, someone who actually asks questions before doing anything else, someone I could even learn, or remember things from, yes, I personally would feel that it would be a great loss for the whole world, and the only way I'd drain its blood and soul, would be to grant him or her the Dark Gift of Immortality.

We all love, in our own way, differently from mortals, and perhaps, because we are no longer bound to the Mortal Life, our love lasts for centuries, and it's more genuine, more real than the romanticism often shown in mortals... We do not cry tears like mortals, we cry our own blood, our feelings are more genuine and a thousand times more intense... And most of mortals dare to call us cold, heartless creatures of the nights unable to feel a thing?

I stand my position, Lord Vladimir is unaccounted for, and in spite I keep on destroying all worthless mortals who stand in my way, I've also given the Dark Gift of Immortality to those brave warriors who deserve to enjoy existance without the mortal limitations, I've also spared lives, for those mortals were not in my league, and I expect to see them soon again, so we can have a more fair encounter.

In Vita Mors...

... In Morte Vita.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:25 pm


This made me think. What will happen to us all when the event is over? Gambino and Edmund seem fixed on removing the vampires form Gaia, no matter what. Well most plan on remaining vampires. So what then? Will they just give up? Will they try another way? How far will they go to preserve the humans, and erradicate the vampires?

What will happen to us all?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:59 pm


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Zi and I, and a few others most likely will convene, and discuss the happenings here. I don't believe Zi will like the idea of violence, and will forbid it outright, but, I am not a mind reader, and Zi still continues to surprise me. It will truly be interesting to see the outcome...

Some of us here, are stuck as pawns, not to anyone here, or anywhere. But, are ruled by what they are, their instincts to feed, to kill, to survive.

What will you all do? Will you live as you are? Consumed by your needs and running only on what you think is necessary, casting aside everything else? Or will you live for yourself, and the advancement of your people? To be accepted not as a monster or some new species of creature, but as a race unto itself, just as black is black, and white is white? To be equal among everyone the living, and, the dead. That is where I stand, but, this is not a choice for the guild, but a moral choice, and Zi, nor I, can decide this for you.

It is up to you, which path you will wish to follow, and depending on the future alignment of this guild, it may pull and draw at our ranks, flushing out those that do not go along with the ideas, and bring to us like a moth to a candle, those that cherish and uphold the same ideas as we.

So, I ask yourselves where you stand morally, and you will know your choice. You need not leave, we would not enjoy the sight of your back to us, receding away into the sunset, as we lose our family. But, it is impossible to please everyone and at that, I leave you to the tinkering of your own minds, think hard my brethren.
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Take their advice; I'm busy.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:33 pm


With me, it all comes to this:

Lord Alexander Igniz Covenant Van Der Hell XIII will remain loyal to The Nightfall Asylum Brotherhood and what The Brotherhood represents and stands for.

Loyal as I've always been, I'm not a rebel, and I will defend what The Brotherhood stands for even if the principles are changed.

Whatever is decided, I shall support it.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:22 pm


Alexander Covenant
With me, it all comes to this:

Lord Alexander Igniz Covenant Van Der Hell XIII will remain loyal to The Nightfall Asylum Brotherhood and what The Brotherhood represents and stands for.

Loyal as I've always been, I'm not a rebel, and I will defend what The Brotherhood stands for even if the principles are changed.

Whatever is decided, I shall support it.

Si, si, very true. I agree fully. I trust in choices made by Zi and Kiba, they are intelligent individuals. 3nodding All of us seem to be, actually. I don't think any of us would make the decision to go against the Brotherhood, especially those who have been here since the thread. I stand by my Brothers and Sisters.

0ogii


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:36 am


To be loyal to the Brotherhood is one thing, but can you really say that you would remain loyal to everything it stands for no matter what that stand may be? To blindly trust in the decisions of your leaders, while a true testament to your devotion and loyalty, can also be a testament to your foolishness. Would you truly remain loyal to the cause, even if that cause was changed to one of outright violence, or submission?
While I know that Zi and Kiba are, as 0ogii says, intelligent individuals, and their decision would likely be a wise and acceptable one, you should not go along with whatever they decide or don't decide about the Brotherhood's future simply because you are loyal. You should support it because you truly believe in it. To blindly follow, even if what you are following is against your beliefs and what you hold dear as an individual, is not true loyalty.

I know that I, as a werewolf and a supporter of Edmund, am not able to speak as a true member of your Brotherhood, but what I say here holds true for all Gaians; Every decision should be weighed against your morals. If whatever is decided goes against what you believe, do not follow it simply because you are loyal to your leaders. You are individuals, not mindless subordinates.

Go Stanley Milgram!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:56 am


Anti-Evil-n00b
To be loyal to the Brotherhood is one thing, but can you really say that you would remain loyal to everything it stands for no matter what that stand may be? To blindly trust in the decisions of your leaders, while a true testament to your devotion and loyalty, can also be a testament to your foolishness. Would you truly remain loyal to the cause, even if that cause was changed to one of outright violence, or submission?
While I know that Zi and Kiba are, as 0ogii says, intelligent individuals, and their decision would likely be a wise and acceptable one, you should not go along with whatever they decide or don't decide about the Brotherhood's future simply because you are loyal. You should support it because you truly believe in it. To blindly follow, even if what you are following is against your beliefs and what you hold dear as an individual, is not true loyalty.

I know that I, as a werewolf and a supporter of Edmund, am not able to speak as a true member of your Brotherhood, but what I say here holds true for all Gaians; Every decision should be weighed against your morals. If whatever is decided goes against what you believe, do not follow it simply because you are loyal to your leaders. You are individuals, not mindless subordinates.

Go Stanley Milgram!

Blind is almost too harsh a word to use.
I trust in our leaders, and I will stand by them. It does depend upon the situation, of course.
Trust is not like following. Trust is much different. I trust my friends, but I keep my eyes on them, too. Everything is unpredictable. I am a supporter of the Von Helsons, but there's always one eye on them.

And Anti, you say "...I, as a werewolf and a supporter of Edmund, am not able to speak as a true member of your Brotherhood...", but I think this is an almost false statement. You are a supporter of Edmund, yes, but while being our 'enemy', I easily consider you a friend. You've been with us for a while, now, and I, personally, trust you as a Brother, as any of my other Brothers and Sisters.
Then again, there is a bitterness to a fair amount of our race that also comes into play, and my trustworth to you might be the effect of it, but I believe only a small part, really. I don't know. Hard to explain, actually.

But I do stand by the Brotherhood, and though may not fight for or by them for something, as Anti said, goes against my morals, I will never turn my back and walk away.

0ogii


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:58 am


0ogii
You are a supporter of Edmund, yes, but while being our 'enemy', I easily consider you a friend. You've been with us for a while, now, and I, personally, trust you as a Brother, as any of my other Brothers and Sisters.

Aww, thanks! whee

0ogii
But I do stand by the Brotherhood, and though may not fight for or by them for something, as Anti said, goes against my morals, I will never turn my back and walk away.

That's all I ask.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:49 am


I believe Sister 0ogi has expressed in better words what I wanted to say.

I've been here since the start of the thread in the GCD, I was there when it got moved to the CB, I was there when the idea of a guild was suggested.

If I didn't believe or trust in the judgement of Lady Zi and Kiba, I wouldn't be here, I wouldn't have donated to the guild and some of my Brothers and Sisters.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:55 am


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I am glad that everyone has been able to discuss this without resorting to negative words. I commend you. This is truly a touchy subject, but Anti, as you can see everyone here places a great deal of trust within one another. And each can understand the others ideals without critiquing them. It is to say that we have a many good people here.

Still, time can only tell what will happen in the end...
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I suppose "Experience teaches best",
"Learn by doing",
and similar clichés have merit.
Take their advice; I'm busy.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:14 am


xX KibaB Xx
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I am glad that everyone has been able to discuss this without resorting to negative words. I commend you. This is truly a touchy subject, but Anti, as you can see everyone here places a great deal of trust within one another. And each can understand the others ideals without critiquing them. It is to say that we have a many good people here.

Still, time can only tell what will happen in the end...
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I suppose "Experience teaches best",
"Learn by doing",
and similar clichés have merit.
Take their advice; I'm busy.

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Indeed.
Though I do hope things take a turn for the better.

0ogii


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:53 pm


I may not be as eloquent as 0ogi or anti, or Alexander, but I will stand by this guild and my guild family for as long as I am able. Whether I am human, Vampire, or Zurg, I will stand by it.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:04 am


Like I said...
Anti-Evil-n00b
0ogii
But I do stand by the Brotherhood, and though may not fight for or by them for something, as Anti said, goes against my morals, I will never turn my back and walk away.

That's all I ask.

Anti vs The World


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:20 am


I commend you all for being able to chat your differences out in a truly civilized manner. (Hurray gentle-vampires <3)

On the subject of support, we support ourselves. Our brothers and sisters both vampire, and non vampire. We certainly do not support Edmund, as he wishes for the vampire race to be eliminated, and this is not what we stand for.

I am a little less sure about the Von Helson family than I was before, however, after that recent discussion, we still support them.

As I said before, we are a civilized race, and restrain from violence and murder (we can get blood other ways, you know).

I do not like battle, and I have stressed from the beginning that we are not killers.
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