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 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:08 pm
Oh excellent. biggrin @Zsa Zsa: Rowan rowan rowan. I know some people won't use oak unless it has already fallen. Wouldn't be surprised if elder was another one. @Foxmore: That's cute! I've given crystals myself. whee This page seems quite handy for the tree properties. I have a larger list of trees but less detailed properties if that's useful for the topic.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:36 pm
I just can't wait for the other two Techniques and set to work this is a very helpful thread smile
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:28 pm
@Ciele: With the oak thing... Do you mean that the limb has fallen or the entire tree? I fall under the belief that you shouldn't take the limb from the tree itself, and only use the ones that have already fallen.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:07 pm
I don't know, in a sense isn't that dead wood? At least if you cut the switch yourself it has full life force to begin with. And especially if you give something back to the tree, and spreading a bucket full of ash at it's base, I can see no harm.
Some trees need pruning anyways (as is the case especially with fruit trees, if you want them to bear). You can always hang around city workers the day they do tree pruning and ask to have one of the branches. Then it doesn't go to waste, ending up in the wood chipper.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:01 pm
The way I see it, if you find the perfect branch to use underneith a tree it is like that tree giving it to you freely. It is a gift from the tree to you. If you cut if off, you are taking it by force and the tree has no say in the matter.
Rereading this, I am aware that it sounds weird. I just can't help but think that I wouldn't want some Joe Bob Anybody to walk up to me and cut my arm off, make it "pretty" and start waving it around. But I am an organ doner so if I ever don't need a part of me anymore I would be more than happy for someone else to have it.
I honestly hope this makes sense.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:36 pm
I'm a registered organ donor too heart
I must agree that if you find a branch, it is ideal, no chance of harm done to anyone. But I also see the practicality of taking matters into your own hands. For example, I live in an old house, and only have a wood heater. If I waited around for a tree to fall down to light the fire in winter (and I live in Canada, too) my poor family would freeze to death. Besides that, the tree would probably be rotten and not much use. However wanting a wand and needing warmth are different things.
Upon further reflection, a single branch is less offensive than cutting down the whole tree.
I feel so long as I respect the tree, commune with the tree, and give something back, I am ultimately negating the harm done, which is more than I can say about the nameless woodpile of carcasses in my yard.
I guess it just varies to need, personality, and path.
Maybe if you are a take charge sort of person, the gods would smile upon you choosing a branch and cutting it yourself. If you are a patient person, or trying to be, waiting, and hunting would be more beneficial to your frame of mind.
I think it also might vary from which gods you revere. Some gods might not be forgiving, why would you fly in their face? Some gods are abusers of woods themselves, so the only ceremony required are the ones you feel as an individual are owed (for yourself, to the tree).
In my case, should I choose the Rowan for a wand, I will not have much time to wait for a branch to fall. I’ve lived with that tree for 23 years, and have yet to see a branch fall from it. And seeing as how I must move in 6 months, I may never get a chance at a real Rowan again (everything is choked out by evergreen trees in this province), and it would never mean as much as the one I grew up with. I guess we just have to analyze our own situations, and try to make the best of what we can.
Anyways,
I’ve been doing tons of research on Rowan trees in the last few days, I’m really starting to feel this could be the right wood for me, I’m wondering, what other people’s reflections are on this type?
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:54 am
Ciele Fu This page seems quite handy for the tree properties. I have a larger list of trees but less detailed properties if that's useful for the topic. Thanks for the link; I enjoyed looking over some of the aspects of trees. Its also given me abit of a start I think; I can see looking for either an apple or birch branch. Now to find trees of this type. smile
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:02 pm
I found the most perfect stick to use right in my grandparents' back yard!
I was just walking around out there, when I saw this fallen branch by a big maple tree that looked perfect on the end. So, I picked it up, snapped it off to about 2.5 feet long, and kept walking. I came back a few minutes later and decided to actually ask the tree if it was alright that I used the stick. I held the stick with my right hand, touched my left hand to the tree, and rested my head on it. I asked if it was alright that I use the stick. Not only did I start to get pinprick-like pain in my hands, I just started feeling all-round terrible. I quickly placed it back at the base of the tree, apologized, and moved several yards away. I now had a clear view of the moon. I just stared at it and started talking to the Goddess. I told her that I was sorry that I just took the stick without asking. I said how I realized my mistake, and that if the stick wasn't meant to be mine, then I understood. I did, however, want to ask the tree once more. So, I did so. With the same technique, I asked the tree if it was alright. The sensation I got was radically different. It made me feel happy inside. I then thanked the tree, thanked the Goddess, and ran inside feeling all totally awesome! whee
Now, I was wondering about something. It fits perfectly in my hand, and all I really need to do is to cut it down to the right length. It has this beautiful end on it where it fell from the tree; it's large, sort of twisted. I plan to leave it there. I want to know if I should simply shorten it and use it as is. Should I carve the bark off, and/or carve it in some other way? Should I even sand it at all? Then I have to find methods of consecration/blessing and such. Just looking for some input, thanks! 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:41 pm
Zsa Zsa I'm a registered organ donor too heart
I must agree that if you find a branch, it is ideal, no chance of harm done to anyone. But I also see the practicality of taking matters into your own hands. For example, I live in an old house, and only have a wood heater. If I waited around for a tree to fall down to light the fire in winter (and I live in Canada, too) my poor family would freeze to death. Besides that, the tree would probably be rotten and not much use. However wanting a wand and needing warmth are different things.
Upon further reflection, a single branch is less offensive than cutting down the whole tree.
I feel so long as I respect the tree, commune with the tree, and give something back, I am ultimately negating the harm done, which is more than I can say about the nameless woodpile of carcasses in my yard.
I guess it just varies to need, personality, and path.
Maybe if you are a take charge sort of person, the gods would smile upon you choosing a branch and cutting it yourself. If you are a patient person, or trying to be, waiting, and hunting would be more beneficial to your frame of mind.
I think it also might vary from which gods you revere. Some gods might not be forgiving, why would you fly in their face? Some gods are abusers of woods themselves, so the only ceremony required are the ones you feel as an individual are owed (for yourself, to the tree).
In my case, should I choose the Rowan for a wand, I will not have much time to wait for a branch to fall. I’ve lived with that tree for 23 years, and have yet to see a branch fall from it. And seeing as how I must move in 6 months, I may never get a chance at a real Rowan again (everything is choked out by evergreen trees in this province), and it would never mean as much as the one I grew up with. I guess we just have to analyze our own situations, and try to make the best of what we can.
Anyways,
I’ve been doing tons of research on Rowan trees in the last few days, I’m really starting to feel this could be the right wood for me, I’m wondering, what other people’s reflections are on this type? Necessity definitely trumps want any day. I say the same thing about hunting. I think it is wrong for people that are perfectly capable of affording their food to WANT to go out and kill something. But if you can't afford something you need, it is not wrong to go and get it. It is not wrong to cut down a tree for warmth or shelter, just as it is not wrong to kill a deer if it is what you need. The wood that I am closest to is willow, and because willows branches tend to bang together a lot, I have never had to worry about waiting for sticks to fall (actually if anyone would like a willow branch just msg me and we can talk about getting you one cool ) Wow.. that went off on a tangent.. hopefully it was a coherent tangent. rolleyes From what I have read about Rowan it seems to be a very powerful wood, and has a lot of protection properties. If I were in your situation I don't think that I could have risked not having one. @Aika: That is so great! Your story just goes to show that you should ask permission no matter what technique you use to get you wand. I am glad that the tree decided to forgive you.
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:47 am
Rebo_Nicky Is it necessary to carve runes in the wand, or can you paint it or just leave it bare? No no, whatever works for you. For a while, I used my wand bare, but for me it felt more like a wand with some embellishment.
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:48 am
elaisa_angelic I just can't wait for the other two Techniques and set to work this is a very helpful thread smile Aww, thank you! <3 I'm working on it.... sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:52 am
xAikaNoKurayami
I found the most perfect stick to use right in my grandparents' back yard!
I was just walking around out there, when I saw this fallen branch by a big maple tree that looked perfect on the end. So, I picked it up, snapped it off to about 2.5 feet long, and kept walking. I came back a few minutes later and decided to actually ask the tree if it was alright that I used the stick. I held the stick with my right hand, touched my left hand to the tree, and rested my head on it. I asked if it was alright that I use the stick. Not only did I start to get pinprick-like pain in my hands, I just started feeling all-round terrible. I quickly placed it back at the base of the tree, apologized, and moved several yards away. I now had a clear view of the moon. I just stared at it and started talking to the Goddess. I told her that I was sorry that I just took the stick without asking. I said how I realized my mistake, and that if the stick wasn't meant to be mine, then I understood. I did, however, want to ask the tree once more. So, I did so. With the same technique, I asked the tree if it was alright. The sensation I got was radically different. It made me feel happy inside. I then thanked the tree, thanked the Goddess, and ran inside feeling all totally awesome! whee
Now, I was wondering about something. It fits perfectly in my hand, and all I really need to do is to cut it down to the right length. It has this beautiful end on it where it fell from the tree; it's large, sort of twisted. I plan to leave it there. I want to know if I should simply shorten it and use it as is. Should I carve the bark off, and/or carve it in some other way? Should I even sand it at all? Then I have to find methods of consecration/blessing and such. Just looking for some input, thanks! 3nodding
It sounds perfect! The sanding and carving are mostly just for comfort/personal preference. If it's comfortable to hold, and it feels right to you, I think you should just shorten it, if you want to, and leave it as is.
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:00 am
Zsa Zsa OOOoo! Can you make a section about all the options of wood we could use, and then the different meanings, powers or strengths, pros and cons of each selection? OH! And I just thought, maybe you can add the correct Ogham symbol next to each.
Are there particular woods that is better depending on which element you are more in tune with?
Are there any we should avoid? I remember reading once (but I can't remember where and it's driving me nuts) that you shouldn't use one particular type of wood because it belongs to the Goddess. I believe it may have been the elder tree.
For example, I have a Rowan tree in my yard, I'm wondering if this is a good choice or poor one. I have heard from a few different sources that traditionally the Rowan was an anti-witchcraft wood. Ha ha, I'll try. First, though, I've got to get the Cleansing, Consecration, and Care section as well as the other techniques up and running. sweatdrop I think you should use whatever wood feels right to you. Personally, I think that all things belong to the Goddess, and that she doesn't mind sharing. However, it can be nice to know the meanings of your wand, in which case, Ciele Fu's links are awesome sauce. <3
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:06 am
Oh yes - and for those of you who have asked about putting crystals and stones on wands, that's gonna be part of the next technique! <3
I have mononucleosis at the moment, though, and can't get supplies, so don't hold your breath. In the meantime, though, I'll be working on the C, C, & C section. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:11 am
When I read mononucleosis I thought it was some kind of class at first xd . I hope you start feeling better soon. Mono can be a b***h and I am sure no one here will mind waiting a while for you to get well. heart I love your Kaya btw. I am wondering if I should break down and buy one. Back on topic I thought I would post a pic of my wand so far. It was made using the carve and sand technique that was posted. 
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