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Icestar03

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:34 am


I just think it's wrong. the fact that you are debating whether it's wrong or not should be a hint. Check your conscience. neutral
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:17 pm


Icestar03
I just think it's wrong. the fact that you are debating whether it's wrong or not should be a hint. Check your conscience. neutral


I agree most whole-heartedly. One thing I'd like to mention is that in ANY case regarding sexuality, pressuring people to do things that feel wrong to them is in fact, wrong itself.

In a lot of cases, cybering is a mutual agreement, but there are many, many situations where people are pressured and made to feel badly if they choose not to. I should know, I'm one of them.

I had a sexually agressive boyfriend who pressured me into cybering and looking at pornographic artwork he had drawn. Afterwards, I felt sick inside, and felt as though I had given part of myself away to someone who didn't appreciate it.

I couldn't get the mental images of the pictures out of my head, and began to feel self-conscious about the fact that I didn't look one bit like the girls he drew...I didn't have huge boobs, couldn't bend in crazy contortionist positions, and I wasn't exactly a Playboy Bunny. The relationship ended soon afterwards because in the end, I couldn't measure up to the porn star image he wanted in a girlfriend, and I didn't want to. I wanted to be myself, and to give myself to someone who loved me enough to marry me, despite my imperfections and lack of pole-dancing ability.

I've been made fun of and thought of as "frigid" and "intolerant" for refusing to cyber, look at pornography or read stories with high sexual content, but honestly, I'd rather not do things that make my conscience ache at night. Everyone has to make their own decisions in life, and I can't honestly tell people what to do. But I really think I'm beginning to realize WHY Christ tells us to "flee from sexual immorality."

Also, if someone really and truly loves you, they won't ask you to do things that make you feel bad or uncomfortable. It's not intolerent or uncool to say "no" when something doesn't feel right. I'm tired of people being expected to "put out" in ANY way order to fit in, be thought of as "cool," or be loved.

I don't want to share my sexuality with anyone but my future husband, whether it is "in person" or "in text" or whatever. If people don't like that, tough cookies-and-milk. I'm not changing my mind. whee

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Dcaff

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:16 pm


Michan Starfire
Icestar03
I just think it's wrong. the fact that you are debating whether it's wrong or not should be a hint. Check your conscience. neutral


I agree most whole-heartedly. One thing I'd like to mention is that in ANY case regarding sexuality, pressuring people to do things that feel wrong to them is in fact, wrong itself.

In a lot of cases, cybering is a mutual agreement, but there are many, many situations where people are pressured and made to feel badly if they choose not to. I should know, I'm one of them.

I had a sexually agressive boyfriend who pressured me into cybering and looking at pornographic artwork he had drawn. Afterwards, I felt sick inside, and felt as though I had given part of myself away to someone who didn't appreciate it.

I couldn't get the mental images of the pictures out of my head, and began to feel self-conscious about the fact that I didn't look one bit like the girls he drew...I didn't have huge boobs, couldn't bend in crazy contortionist positions, and I wasn't exactly a Playboy Bunny. The relationship ended soon afterwards because in the end, I couldn't measure up to the porn star image he wanted in a girlfriend, and I didn't want to. I wanted to be myself, and to give myself to someone who loved me enough to marry me, despite my imperfections and lack of pole-dancing ability.

I've been made fun of and thought of as "frigid" and "intolerant" for refusing to cyber, look at pornography or read stories with high sexual content, but honestly, I'd rather not do things that make my conscience ache at night. Everyone has to make their own decisions in life, and I can't honestly tell people what to do. But I really think I'm beginning to realize WHY Christ tells us to "flee from sexual immorality."

Also, if someone really and truly loves you, they won't ask you to do things that make you feel bad or uncomfortable. It's not intolerent or uncool to say "no" when something doesn't feel right. I'm tired of people being expected to "put out" in ANY way order to fit in, be thought of as "cool," or be loved.

I don't want to share my sexuality with anyone but my future husband, whether it is "in person" or "in text" or whatever. If people don't like that, tough cookies-and-milk. I'm not changing my mind. whee



Agreed, agreed, agreed.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:33 pm


"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." ( Matthew 5:27,28 )

That's what Jesus says so that's the most important advice right there. He considers even the thought as adultery. That's pretty clear to me. Doing it and fantasizing it don't seem to have any distinction in God's eyes.

Hope that helps! Its something to think about.

Dcaff


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:29 pm


Dcaff
"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." ( Matthew 5:27,28 )

That's what Jesus says so that's the most important advice right there. He considers even the thought as adultery. That's pretty clear to me. Doing it and fantasizing it don't seem to have any distinction in God's eyes.

Hope that helps! Its something to think about.


Ha ha, well said! The most important thing is that you keep your mind and heart pure and holy. Everything else falls into place after that. ^^
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:56 pm


But I can't keep my heart and mind pure and holy. It's hard. I mean, first off, the school I go to has got people who are like that a lot. I hear a lot of stuff like that, and I am so used to it. It makes it easier for me to think of stuff like that. Not calling anyone bad or anything, but it's hard. And poeple curse all the time. I mean, it is hard.

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sunshinehearttrob

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:34 pm


Duroonsia
But I can't keep my heart and mind pure and holy. It's hard. I mean, first off, the school I go to has got people who are like that a lot. I hear a lot of stuff like that, and I am so used to it. It makes it easier for me to think of stuff like that. Not calling anyone bad or anything, but it's hard. And poeple curse all the time. I mean, it is hard.


theres no such thing as "cant". cant means your NOT willing to try, and i dont think thats you somehow.

a lot of other people may curse and do stuff like that. but your a Christian and you should step up your game. it may be hard, but it could also be overcome. if your friends cuss, tell them to cut it out around you or something. if your willing to give it a try, then your friends will see this and hopefully respect it too. dont be tempted !!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:56 pm


Icestar03
I just think it's wrong. the fact that you are debating whether it's wrong or not should be a hint. Check your conscience. neutral


again right and wrong is only what you make it
so perhaps asking yourself why you feel the way you feel and not if what you feel is right or wrong

lordstar


lordstar

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:07 pm


sunshinehearttrob
Duroonsia
But I can't keep my heart and mind pure and holy. It's hard. I mean, first off, the school I go to has got people who are like that a lot. I hear a lot of stuff like that, and I am so used to it. It makes it easier for me to think of stuff like that. Not calling anyone bad or anything, but it's hard. And poeple curse all the time. I mean, it is hard.


theres no such thing as "cant". cant means your NOT willing to try, and i dont think thats you somehow.

a lot of other people may curse and do stuff like that. but your a Christian and you should step up your game. it may be hard, but it could also be overcome. if your friends cuss, tell them to cut it out around you or something. if your willing to give it a try, then your friends will see this and hopefully respect it too. dont be tempted !!


wow i was just going to lecture Michan Starfire on not being willing to try

can't is the minds responce to something a person has deemed to not be in their interest

so if a person is not willing cope with choice than its not really a choice

can't meens doing so is just not worth the trouble
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:16 am


lordstar
sunshinehearttrob
Duroonsia
But I can't keep my heart and mind pure and holy. It's hard. I mean, first off, the school I go to has got people who are like that a lot. I hear a lot of stuff like that, and I am so used to it. It makes it easier for me to think of stuff like that. Not calling anyone bad or anything, but it's hard. And poeple curse all the time. I mean, it is hard.


theres no such thing as "cant". cant means your NOT willing to try, and i dont think thats you somehow.

a lot of other people may curse and do stuff like that. but your a Christian and you should step up your game. it may be hard, but it could also be overcome. if your friends cuss, tell them to cut it out around you or something. if your willing to give it a try, then your friends will see this and hopefully respect it too. dont be tempted !!


wow i was just going to lecture Michan Starfire on not being willing to try

can't is the minds responce to something a person has deemed to not be in their interest

so if a person is not willing cope with choice than its not really a choice

can't meens doing so is just not worth the trouble


Not willing to try what? Cybering? Sex? If I don't feel comfortable doing something, or if it feels wrong to me, I shouldn't do it. Nuff' said.

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sunshinehearttrob

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:59 pm


lordstar
sunshinehearttrob
Duroonsia
But I can't keep my heart and mind pure and holy. It's hard. I mean, first off, the school I go to has got people who are like that a lot. I hear a lot of stuff like that, and I am so used to it. It makes it easier for me to think of stuff like that. Not calling anyone bad or anything, but it's hard. And poeple curse all the time. I mean, it is hard.


theres no such thing as "cant". cant means your NOT willing to try, and i dont think thats you somehow.

a lot of other people may curse and do stuff like that. but your a Christian and you should step up your game. it may be hard, but it could also be overcome. if your friends cuss, tell them to cut it out around you or something. if your willing to give it a try, then your friends will see this and hopefully respect it too. dont be tempted !!


wow i was just going to lecture Michan Starfire on not being willing to try

can't is the minds responce to something a person has deemed to not be in their interest

so if a person is not willing cope with choice than its not really a choice

can't meens doing so is just not worth the trouble


wait... are you actually agreeing with me on the cant thing ?? or not agreeing. i cant decide.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:55 pm


Michan Starfire
lordstar
sunshinehearttrob
Duroonsia
But I can't keep my heart and mind pure and holy. It's hard. I mean, first off, the school I go to has got people who are like that a lot. I hear a lot of stuff like that, and I am so used to it. It makes it easier for me to think of stuff like that. Not calling anyone bad or anything, but it's hard. And poeple curse all the time. I mean, it is hard.


theres no such thing as "cant". cant means your NOT willing to try, and i dont think thats you somehow.

a lot of other people may curse and do stuff like that. but your a Christian and you should step up your game. it may be hard, but it could also be overcome. if your friends cuss, tell them to cut it out around you or something. if your willing to give it a try, then your friends will see this and hopefully respect it too. dont be tempted !!


wow i was just going to lecture Michan Starfire on not being willing to try

can't is the minds responce to something a person has deemed to not be in their interest

so if a person is not willing cope with choice than its not really a choice

can't meens doing so is just not worth the trouble


Not willing to try what? Cybering? Sex? If I don't feel comfortable doing something, or if it feels wrong to me, I shouldn't do it. Nuff' said.


you didn't even try to do what your partner asked
if you had attempted we would be having a different conversation

lordstar


lordstar

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:00 pm


sunshinehearttrob
lordstar
sunshinehearttrob
Duroonsia
But I can't keep my heart and mind pure and holy. It's hard. I mean, first off, the school I go to has got people who are like that a lot. I hear a lot of stuff like that, and I am so used to it. It makes it easier for me to think of stuff like that. Not calling anyone bad or anything, but it's hard. And poeple curse all the time. I mean, it is hard.


theres no such thing as "cant". cant means your NOT willing to try, and i dont think thats you somehow.

a lot of other people may curse and do stuff like that. but your a Christian and you should step up your game. it may be hard, but it could also be overcome. if your friends cuss, tell them to cut it out around you or something. if your willing to give it a try, then your friends will see this and hopefully respect it too. dont be tempted !!


wow i was just going to lecture Michan Starfire on not being willing to try

can't is the minds responce to something a person has deemed to not be in their interest

so if a person is not willing cope with choice than its not really a choice

can't meens doing so is just not worth the trouble


wait... are you actually agreeing with me on the cant thing ?? or not agreeing. i cant decide.


part yes
what i was trying to get at is that can't isn't just a choice but rather a very deep psychological prosses
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:18 am


Shiroi Kokoro no Mendori
Well, would it be done as a literary exercise, or to get you off?
doesnt matter

my angels goddess


Killer Mosquito

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:15 pm


The fact that this is even a question sort of scares me.... Although... looking back, I had many similar questions when I first became a Christian...

Yes, cybering is a sin. It is a lustful act. The Bible tells us in MANY instances to resist lust. The Bible doesn't tell us to ignore it, or that it will never, ever be there. It told us to RESIST it.

The bible says that if you even THINK of a woman in a lustful way... you might as well have commited that sin.
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