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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:26 pm


If you feel comfortable posting a picture, I'd love to see it. The way you describe your fashion sense sounds really fun, and interesting, and intriguing. Of course, if you'd rather not, I understand that too.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:49 pm


Sometime tonight I'll snap a picture and see if the dorm internet will let me upload it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:19 pm


I'll be excited to see it. smile
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:02 pm


It'll take more time than I thought. I don't have a camera on campus, and I'm wary of wearing my veil where people can see me, since I've already received threats and racial slurs (for some reason, I never expected to be called a "sand ******" when people know that I'm not Arabic).

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:36 am


It's hard to believe anyone would call anyone such a name, Arab or Black or not. I suppose in an environment like that, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who knew that the niqab was actually a woman's garment in the first place. You're right, don't wear it in an environment like that. You could become the victim of violence, and since it's not a requirement for you to wear it, it might be best not to wear it for now.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:14 am


I haven't worn it since that first day, at least not in public. I usually wear strange things that get my dirty looks, but I've never actually felt like I was in danger for what I wore before. I've been pretty busy laying low since then; I go from the locked dorm room to the dining hall, then back, or from dorm room to car and then to class and back. I still get bad vibes when I'm around other people, and sometimes I catch whisperings from their conversations as I walk by. Not a pleasant experience in the least.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:47 am


You're so right, and if you're already known for bucking convention, maybe there's only so far you're emotionally willing to go. There's nothing wrong with that. Avoid becoming a target.

In other news, it's cold outside. No, I mean it's bleeping cold outside. I find myself more and more wanting to wear a heavier scarf or shawl over my head, ears, and neck, and not just a little cap on my head. I've done it a few times with no problems, but there is one of the higher-ups in my office who is very... let's say he's a "conventional thinker." He can't understand why some gay Jews think of themselves as observant. He can't understand why not all Jewish women avoid trousers in favor of skirts. He can't understand why not all Orthodox are against transgender/gay/transsexuality, and why not all Reform are pro-transgender/gay/transsexuality. To him, the style of headwear (black suede kippah, colorful crocheted kippah, Bokharan kippah, keffiyeh, or whatever) defines the style of Jew or Muslim you are. He gets a little nervous when he sees me covering up in what he thinks of as a Muslim style. I think he's a little shaken up by me, but I honestly don't do anything for that purpose. I'm just cold.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:36 am


Hehe. I know what it's like to be cold. I got my first scarf to act as a veil because of the cold here last year. And one reason I wanted a niqab was to cover my mouth, since I have bad lungs and cold air coming in directly gives me asthmatic symptoms. The niqab works wonders heating up the air before I breath it in.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:45 pm


So would one of those neoprene, fitted cowls/balaclavas. They're a bit snug for my tastes, but I hear they're amazingly warm and keep the cold out of your face while not allowing your exhalation-steam to freeze up around your mouth and nose.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:08 pm


I'll have to give it a try some time. At the moment, I'll just drive around in my nice heated car. wink

By the way, I'm going home for the weekend, and I'll have pictures taken there.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:21 am


Oh, yeah, well, I guess a car would be a good idea. If you have one. wink I settle for wrapping up, and if someone doesn't like the way I look, they can look at their shoes or stick their noses in a book. It's not my problem. wink
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:51 pm


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I haven't worn it since that first day, at least not in public. I usually wear strange things that get my dirty looks, but I've never actually felt like I was in danger for what I wore before. I've been pretty busy laying low since then; I go from the locked dorm room to the dining hall, then back, or from dorm room to car and then to class and back. I still get bad vibes when I'm around other people, and sometimes I catch whisperings from their conversations as I walk by. Not a pleasant experience in the least.


thaats awful!is there someone in charge of the dorm you can speak to about this or even just a friend?i live in northern ireland and northern ireland is famous for religious bigotry and political strife.catholics are rare and to look,in my case like a nun,is not a good thing,so i know the feeling. once i had a nasty incident involving a group of girls about this.it was horrible. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:39 pm


Heh, I finally have those pictures. Three of them, starting with the head, down to chest, and then legs.

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Head image shows off my main hat, along with my scarf that I wear. I sometimes wear the scarf over my mouth in cold weather, as in the picture, as a plain scarf, or as a head wrap. I have another favorite hat that I also wear.

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When worn with my more gothy clothing (including trenchcoat) I'm told that I look like an orthodox man.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:47 am


I can see why you get stares. You have a very interesting, unusual look, and most people simply aren't equipped to deal with the unusual unless it goes past unusual and right into outlandish. Somehow, they can handle pink and green mohawks, tattoos, piercings, and fishnet stockings under ballerina tutus, a lot easier than they can handle something that's not actually all THAT far out of the ordinary.

It's unfortunate, with the insults that come towards you, but I suspect it's to do with (1) the niqab or scarf, and (2) the camouflage Army trousers. Some people feel very threatened when they see military gear. To be honest, if I didn't already know more about you because of your posts, I might look the other way if I saw you coming, too. Try not to draw attention to myself, because I've lived on and near military bases before, and I've seen some very bad behavior from people in military uniforms -- both military people, and non-military people who were wearing Army jackets or camouflage trousers or combat boots. People who wear these things project an aura, whether they mean to do it or not: "I am just as tough as the military men, but without the Uniform Code of Military Justice hanging over my head to keep me in line."

I don't think you should change who you are, because you're a lot sweeter than your outward attire suggests. You're very cool, very kind, very thoughtful. But while clothes don't make the man, they do sometimes make it easier, or harder, to approach the man. These clothes aren't reflecting who you actually are. I know that each piece has its reason for being there, but all together, they send a message that's in conflict with your true personality. I'd be interested to see you grow in comfort with yourself and your connection with the world, enough to want to project something that's more true to your personality, which is really quite a remarkable one.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:08 pm


I admit, part of the reason I dress the way I do is to project that very aura. I dislike conflict, and I find that if the people prone to being aggressive toward me think that I'm just as capable of doing bodily harm as they are, they back off.

I do have other styles of dress as well, including my skirt outfit (here) and various non-military gothy type looks (here). I do like the utility of military uniforms, and they're often very comfortable, which adds to my preference for them over other styles.
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