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Yeah, cause who doesn't love the idea of being stoned to death if you're gay, or if you disagree with your parent. And I really love the idea of having to obey everything said by adults. And guess what else religious states used to do, especially catholic ones? Extermination time! It's like a game, burn the witches, torture the jews till they convert or die, murder the protestants, and anyone who disagrees with what the church and state do. Oh yeah and we could have another Great Crusades adventure where we go and kill all the Muslims who refuse to convert, and pile their heads outside their city!

Actually, that's completely and utterly false. War almost never happens because of religion. While religion is often used as propaganda for recruitment, the cause is almost always a desire for power or wealth. The Crusades are pretty much the only international conflict I can think of that was actually started over religion.

How about all those negative effects of theocracy that The Leninator listed? Do you have any reply to that?

Umm, a barbaric example such as that wouldn't break the will of a religios populaation.... in fact it would serve to steel them against the foreign invaders, not bow to them.

The people of the Middle east are an extremely proud people, even more so than the Americans, if you honestly believe that piling heads outside of major cities will break them, you're completely mistaken.


No worse than the fanatics that are instructed to "Convert the unbelievers", who see anyone not in agreement with them as evil, if you ask me.

Good and evil are another pair of those "Loaded words" I was talking about, only useful in the realm of propaganda where one can paint a black and white picture of who's right and who's wrong.


How about psychologists? Perhaps society? Again, Good and Evil are ideals used to scare people into following a doctrine supplied by an authority figure of some kind that doesn't like something and fears that the true reasoning behind their bias would turn more people against their cause than to it.


Because religion knows good propaganda... The manipulations of the few over the minds of the many would absolutely amaze you.

Look at the media (conservative or liberal)...

Or, perhaps, stand up and do something about the persecution.

You want to claim a christian standpoint, and still repress those of different belief structures in the name of your own self righteousness? Might I point out that vanity, pride, and persecution in the name of your god are all sins, by your rules.

A hell of a lot more than any other group... idiot evangelicals.

I swear, I'm going to pull a gun on the next one that comes on my property.


Very few, because the evangelicals are absolutely everywhere, and one's personal religion is not one to discuss with complete strangers. They agree not to annoy you by pressing you to convert to their beliefs, it's only polite that you return the favor.

Because you're a sheep to the government, and have no issue doing what a giant corrupt machine tells you to do.

What if they mandated that you, specifically, had to engage in graphic homosexual acts in public... would you be so trusting then?

Judging by your general ignorance, perhaps you should start expanding that to other parts of your life... like all of them.

I hears tons of christians talking about how their christian actually. Same with all religions. It annoys me, and I don't believe in public religion because it ******** everything up and makes people pointlessly argue, I think religion should be a private matter.

It would cause a revolution, because when a mass group is discriminated against, they try and change it. Having one state religion is the same thing as thinking whites are better then other races, just with religion instead of race.

Good and evil doesn't exist because of religion. I'm an atheist and I have morals, I know tons of non-religious people who have morals, a lot who have more then religious people. Hell, I'd say I'm a much better person then any of the popes up until the 1900s because they supported slavery, genocide, murder, torture, and discrimination of all kinds. If you look to the bible for morals here's some other book selections- the three little pigs, little red riding hood, jack and the beanstalk..., they all teach morals. Religion isn't the foundation for that and I can prove that claim. People didn't go around raping and killing each other at random before religion was around. Bam, morals.

And if America became the sole power then there would be no problem. personally I'm disapointed that Rome fell. Many people in this world are too stupid to make decisions for themselves

actually I did respond do your points
"it would end most wars. because when it boils down to it war is most often caused by religion. World peace could happen" the end justifies the means man

The end justifies the means? The New Testament outright condemns, in no uncertain terms, the belief that the end can justify evil means. Isn't it a little hypocritical to want to push Christianity on the rest of the world while violating its principles?

Again, utterly ridiculous. Ever heard of a guy named Christopher Hitchens? I can't stand him, but he conpletely contradicts what you're saying. I know plenty of atheists that would gladly "get into trouble" if the law conflicted with their supposedly-non-existent morals.