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operasinger2686

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:53 pm


I read that thing about cheese being addictive in "Skinny b***h." Pretty good stuff. I guess I got kind of lucky because I only really want it because of pizza. Vegan pizzas just isn't the same. I tried making a homemade vegan cheese to put on it, but it just doesn't compare.

Expense is the biggest issue I have with being vegan. Our grocery bill was considerably higher with all the fruit I'd been buying. I'm trying to cut back and eat more things that are cheap such as noodles, beans, and rice. Try that and spice things up with curry powder, cumin powder, ginger, etc.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:50 am


Well like someone said do it gradually. And Pick up a couple of cookbooks. You'll be okay

Sgt_Psych


Pinny Nickels

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:15 pm


Strawberry Lolita Doll
Don't cut it all out all at once! Take a little at a time. One week, stop eating fish. Next week, start taking out eggs. Then start taking out dairy, replacing it with the fake stuff! Replace anything with eggs and dairy with vegan alternatives.

Don't force it on yourself all at once! Making small changes makes it much easier! Like, if you would normally eat ice cream for dessert, make it soy ice cream! Scrambled eggs for breakfast becomes tofu scramble. Continue making minor changes and take everything one meal at a time until you reach a comfortable place biggrin


This is the approach I started taking. I really can't force it on myself or think about it to much. Convincing yourself that it's not such a huge, horrible change helps a lot. I'm starting to view cheese as something I don't really want to eat and that's helped a lot.

I always planned to go vegan when I moved out of my parents house because I knew it would be too much for them.. I've struggled with the change (and done a lot of research) but I'm almost there.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:17 pm


OK, whoa, whoa.

Is someone going to link me to some evidence that milk and/or casomorphin is addictive? I'm not talking Wikipedia here, I'm talking about scientific studies supporting the hypothesis that the breakdown of casomorphins causes us to be addicted to cheese/milk/other dairy and that it is what "causes the baby to keep feeding at the mother" instead of, you know, needing nutrients and food to survive.

Ailinea
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Naynram Ukir

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:38 am


Ailinea
OK, whoa, whoa.

Is someone going to link me to some evidence that milk and/or casomorphin is addictive? I'm not talking Wikipedia here, I'm talking about scientific studies supporting the hypothesis that the breakdown of casomorphins causes us to be addicted to cheese/milk/other dairy and that it is what "causes the baby to keep feeding at the mother" instead of, you know, needing nutrients and food to survive.

People aren't going to come right out and say "It's addictive", it's a food, and people do not want to believe it can be used in the same way as a drug, nor would the mass dairy company allow the information and findings to be thought of as so.

There is evidence in dairy, especially more refined dairy such as cheese, that there are opioid peptides in it.
Not only is it addictive, but it's also a histamine releaser, which is why some people get more allergies the more milk is consumed. It can also cause headaches and constipation in those who are more sensitive to the peptides.

Of course I can't prove it's 100% addictive, it's a limited "dose" and so it isn't as strong as "real" opioid or anything. It's a food, and who can prove that it's just the food that's addictive instead of a person with an addictive personality?

Sources:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738
Quote:
beta-Casomorphine-7, a naturally occurring product of cow's milk with opiate-like activity, was studied for possible direct histamine liberation activities in humans. It was found to cause concentration-dependent in vitro histamine release from peripheral leukocytes of healthy adult volunteers. Intradermal injection of beta-casomorphine-7 induced a wheal and flare reaction in the skin similar to histamine or codeine. Oral pretreatment with the H1 antagonist terfenadine significantly inhibited the skin responses to beta-casomorphine-7. The intradermal injection of an opiate receptor antagonist, naloxone, inhibited in vitro histamine release and skin reactions only in a 100-fold excess over beta-casomorphine-7. These findings suggest that beta-casomorphine-7 can be regarded as a noncytotoxic, direct histamine releaser in humans. The clinical relevance of these findings deserves further studies.

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