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 Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:59 pm
Jaiden Stryker Beef CAN increase activity, Teezy. But what happens when it's personal grudges MINUS the battles? Then what? I'll tell you. We have s**t for a forum. That's what. Drama happened when ceaz came back. But where's the battle between them? What about the hyped up battle-to-come between Mak and Chaos? Unless I've been under a rock, these battles didn't happen. Instead, ALL we got was a flame war. There's a difference between productive beef and plain bullshit. All we were able to obtain was plain bullshit. That's what you need to understand. First rhyming action and relation now this... Active... when a forum.. has constant posts.... when a beef happens... it corellates to more activity, hands down. Productive? If everybody on here started doing audio... then it could have the qualities to at least be CONSIDERED to be described AS productive... till then... nothing in this guild... is productive. This s**t is straight "at your leisure" type s**t. What I think you are missing is the fact that I don't really give a ******** how much someone is bitching to another person... And I'm that type of person that "is the change that he would like to see in the world", leading by example.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:26 pm
C Teezy Jaiden Stryker Beef CAN increase activity, Teezy. But what happens when it's personal grudges MINUS the battles? Then what? I'll tell you. We have s**t for a forum. That's what. Drama happened when ceaz came back. But where's the battle between them? What about the hyped up battle-to-come between Mak and Chaos? Unless I've been under a rock, these battles didn't happen. Instead, ALL we got was a flame war. There's a difference between productive beef and plain bullshit. All we were able to obtain was plain bullshit. That's what you need to understand. First rhyming action and relation now this... Active... when a forum.. has constant posts.... when a beef happens... it corellates to more activity, hands down. Productive? If everybody on here started doing audio... then it could have the qualities to at least be CONSIDERED to be described AS productive... till then... nothing in this guild... is productive. This s**t is straight "at your leisure" type s**t. What I think you are missing is the fact that I don't really give a ******** how much someone is bitching to another person... And I'm that type of person that "is the change that he would like to see in the world", leading by example. I see your point, and your point is exactly what's wrong with LG. That whole attitude right there. As a matter of fact: Quote: Things you can do in Los Gangstas
Here are a few of many things you can do in the guild:
arrow Join a gang or start your own
arrow Talk and have discussions in the main forum
arrow Have polls or bump for gold in the Chatterbox
arrow Drop some flows in The Rapper's Haven or battle MCs
arrow Participate in tournaments and contests for gold
arrow Roleplay to our "in da hood" gang based theme
arrow Meet new people and make friends All of those things are positive examples of bringing about activity. If the guild can only survive because of e-beef, then the guild is doomed to fail. LG doesn't need to merely survive, but LIVE. And that dumb a** reasoning you provided is exactly why LG is in the shape it's in now.
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Jaiden Stryker Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:03 am
Jaiden Stryker C Teezy Jaiden Stryker Beef CAN increase activity, Teezy. But what happens when it's personal grudges MINUS the battles? Then what? I'll tell you. We have s**t for a forum. That's what. Drama happened when ceaz came back. But where's the battle between them? What about the hyped up battle-to-come between Mak and Chaos? Unless I've been under a rock, these battles didn't happen. Instead, ALL we got was a flame war. There's a difference between productive beef and plain bullshit. All we were able to obtain was plain bullshit. That's what you need to understand. First rhyming action and relation now this... Active... when a forum.. has constant posts.... when a beef happens... it corellates to more activity, hands down. Productive? If everybody on here started doing audio... then it could have the qualities to at least be CONSIDERED to be described AS productive... till then... nothing in this guild... is productive. This s**t is straight "at your leisure" type s**t. What I think you are missing is the fact that I don't really give a ******** how much someone is bitching to another person... And I'm that type of person that "is the change that he would like to see in the world", leading by example. I see your point, and your point is exactly what's wrong with LG. That whole attitude right there. As a matter of fact: Quote: Things you can do in Los Gangstas
Here are a few of many things you can do in the guild:
arrow Join a gang or start your own
arrow Talk and have discussions in the main forum
arrow Have polls or bump for gold in the Chatterbox
arrow Drop some flows in The Rapper's Haven or battle MCs
arrow Participate in tournaments and contests for gold
arrow Roleplay to our "in da hood" gang based theme
arrow Meet new people and make friends All of those things are positive examples of bringing about activity. If the guild can only survive because of e-beef, then the guild is doomed to fail. LG doesn't need to merely survive, but LIVE. And that dumb a** reasoning you provided is exactly why LG is in the shape it's in now. Somebody make this dude a crew member. Oh. And... let's debate... Justification #1 :
This guild promotes more negative things than e-beef. As stated by you WITH PROOF, this place promotes gang warfare! I doubt joining a gang is going to be more positive than e-beef. You are supporting e-banging. The only e-banging I should be seeing or hearing about is most likely coming West Coast Productions, Anabolic, or BangBros... DOT ******** COM! On top of this (also stated by yourself), this place even gives you a "hood" to "bang" in. If this isn't the most degraded, backwards peice of coon s**t I've ever heard; I don't know what is. Anyways... Justification #2
I have more experience, therefore I have a better understanding of how things work in this guild.
Doomed to fail? If I have been here a year.... And it's still going off of the same pattern... the SOMEONE'S estimations is wrong. I have been a crew member/LEADER of this part of the guild for almost half a year. This is how this place thrives. Justification #3
There are alternatives. If you want this place to live so bad, why don't you complain about people i.e. crew members or other mods, NOT recruiting people for this guild? Talking about e-beef won't stop it. E-beef has been out since Steve Jobs found out Bill Gates made Microsoft. If we brought in more people, then it would be more active seeing that many people don't battle because they don't feel like battling THE SAME person. Simple. Justification #4
Beef is a form of entertainment. In a lot of the conflict/beefs, many people began to post because they either a) are directly involved b) think they are, but aren't involved. THEN BECOME INVOVLED. c) Don't like the beef... but get right in the middle of it by talking about it. d) think that the current beef... is just plain funny... usually marked by a lot of these rofl rofl rofl In conclusion, I think that this as well as getting more people IN the Haven would increase the productivity rather than destroying another form of entertainment. Speaking of boredom... wait... you know what... I'll take the higher road and keep this about the beefs and not about the lyrics.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:05 am
C Teezy Jaiden Stryker C Teezy Jaiden Stryker Beef CAN increase activity, Teezy. But what happens when it's personal grudges MINUS the battles? Then what? I'll tell you. We have s**t for a forum. That's what. Drama happened when ceaz came back. But where's the battle between them? What about the hyped up battle-to-come between Mak and Chaos? Unless I've been under a rock, these battles didn't happen. Instead, ALL we got was a flame war. There's a difference between productive beef and plain bullshit. All we were able to obtain was plain bullshit. That's what you need to understand. First rhyming action and relation now this... Active... when a forum.. has constant posts.... when a beef happens... it corellates to more activity, hands down. Productive? If everybody on here started doing audio... then it could have the qualities to at least be CONSIDERED to be described AS productive... till then... nothing in this guild... is productive. This s**t is straight "at your leisure" type s**t. What I think you are missing is the fact that I don't really give a ******** how much someone is bitching to another person... And I'm that type of person that "is the change that he would like to see in the world", leading by example. I see your point, and your point is exactly what's wrong with LG. That whole attitude right there. As a matter of fact: Quote: Things you can do in Los Gangstas
Here are a few of many things you can do in the guild:
arrow Join a gang or start your own
arrow Talk and have discussions in the main forum
arrow Have polls or bump for gold in the Chatterbox
arrow Drop some flows in The Rapper's Haven or battle MCs
arrow Participate in tournaments and contests for gold
arrow Roleplay to our "in da hood" gang based theme
arrow Meet new people and make friends All of those things are positive examples of bringing about activity. If the guild can only survive because of e-beef, then the guild is doomed to fail. LG doesn't need to merely survive, but LIVE. And that dumb a** reasoning you provided is exactly why LG is in the shape it's in now. Somebody make this dude a crew member. Oh. And... let's debate... Justification #1 :
This guild promotes more negative things than e-beef. As stated by you WITH PROOF, this place promotes gang warfare! I doubt joining a gang is going to be more positive than e-beef. You are supporting e-banging. The only e-banging I should be seeing or hearing about is most likely coming West Coast Productions, Anabolic, or BangBros... DOT ******** COM! On top of this (also stated by yourself), this place even gives you a "hood" to "bang" in. If this isn't the most degraded, backwards peice of coon s**t I've ever heard; I don't know what is. Anyways... Justification #2
I have more experience, therefore I have a better understanding of how things work in this guild.
Doomed to fail? If I have been here a year.... And it's still going off of the same pattern... the SOMEONE'S estimations is wrong. I have been a crew member/LEADER of this part of the guild for almost half a year. This is how this place thrives. Justification #3
There are alternatives. If you want this place to live so bad, why don't you complain about people i.e. crew members or other mods, NOT recruiting people for this guild? Talking about e-beef won't stop it. E-beef has been out since Steve Jobs found out Bill Gates made Microsoft. If we brought in more people, then it would be more active seeing that many people don't battle because they don't feel like battling THE SAME person. Simple. Justification #4
Beef is a form of entertainment. In a lot of the conflict/beefs, many people began to post because they either a) are directly involved b) think they are, but aren't involved. THEN BECOME INVOVLED. c) Don't like the beef... but get right in the middle of it by talking about it. d) think that the current beef... is just plain funny... usually marked by a lot of these rofl rofl rofl In conclusion, I think that this as well as getting more people IN the Haven would increase the productivity rather than destroying another form of entertainment. Speaking of boredom... wait... you know what... I'll take the higher road and keep this about the beefs and not about the lyrics. sorry to interrupt but: THE CYPHER LIVES!!!
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Jaiden Stryker Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:48 am
C Teezy Somebody make this dude a crew member. Oh. And... let's debate... Justification #1 :
This guild promotes more negative things than e-beef. As stated by you WITH PROOF, this place promotes gang warfare! I doubt joining a gang is going to be more positive than e-beef. You are supporting e-banging. The only e-banging I should be seeing or hearing about is most likely coming West Coast Productions, Anabolic, or BangBros... DOT ******** COM! On top of this (also stated by yourself), this place even gives you a "hood" to "bang" in. If this isn't the most degraded, backwards peice of coon s**t I've ever heard; I don't know what is. Anyways... Justification #2
I have more experience, therefore I have a better understanding of how things work in this guild.
Doomed to fail? If I have been here a year.... And it's still going off of the same pattern... the SOMEONE'S estimations is wrong. I have been a crew member/LEADER of this part of the guild for almost half a year. This is how this place thrives. Justification #3
There are alternatives. If you want this place to live so bad, why don't you complain about people i.e. crew members or other mods, NOT recruiting people for this guild? Talking about e-beef won't stop it. E-beef has been out since Steve Jobs found out Bill Gates made Microsoft. If we brought in more people, then it would be more active seeing that many people don't battle because they don't feel like battling THE SAME person. Simple. Justification #4
Beef is a form of entertainment. In a lot of the conflict/beefs, many people began to post because they either a) are directly involved b) think they are, but aren't involved. THEN BECOME INVOVLED. c) Don't like the beef... but get right in the middle of it by talking about it. d) think that the current beef... is just plain funny... usually marked by a lot of these rofl rofl rofl In conclusion, I think that this as well as getting more people IN the Haven would increase the productivity rather than destroying another form of entertainment. Speaking of boredom... wait... you know what... I'll take the higher road and keep this about the beefs and not about the lyrics. 1. All about interpretation. Gaia has many guilds, and people often put whatever guild they're representing in their signature. Hip-hop guilds, rock guilds, anime guilds, etc... Inside of certain guilds, there is RPing and other events such as they were people create factions/crews/teams/gangs/groups/etc... Los Gangstas one of them. Groups inside of groups. There's nothing wrong with LG having "gangs." What people do with it, however, I don't always agree with. But there's nothing wrong with having your own clique. Quote: One misconception about Los Gangstas is some people think its a bunch of wannabe gangstas, this isn't true, in reality the guild has little "gang" affiliation at all 2. Oh, you have more experience with LG, do you? So I guess that means you're better suited for dealing with those affiliated in LG, right? Don't kid yourself, I wasn't born yesterday. Even a newbie can tell when something is ******** up with a guild. Loss of members, MC Killa having to practically bribe people to stay active, and more make the reality a dead giveaway of the reality of this situation. 3. Apparently you're going by assumption, and not fact at all. Here's a little fact for you: I've given my thoughts to MC Killa a while back, and more than once. I've pointed out how I feel to former crew members such as Mak. I've even made a thread in V.I.P earlier tonight so the crew can fix this as a team. E-beef will be around anywhere. My goal isn't to eliminate e-beef, but to make it so e-beef isn't RH's main driving force. 4. Same as #3. It's entertaining to a point.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:09 am
1. You put the rules up. And agreed to all. Meaning... that even though it says "misconception", it doesn't seem like much of a misconception when you actually can sit there and breed mini-gangsters. IN THEIR OWN HABITAT!
No matter how you twist that, it still gets people coming with the specific reason of (i heard ya'll got gangs).
My run as a mod saw me reject many guild requests because of this reason.
2. There HASNT BEEN a loss of members... Who have you lost?
Niggas is coming BACK! I.e Silver and Jceaz... AND Shenco AFTER I kicked him out... AND me for the most part.
You might wanna dive into the "and more" portion of your rebuttal.
3. Your 'thoughts' didn't have a thing to do with recruiting new members it seems. It was to find a way to stop something that has BEEN in forums since the dawn of forums.
That's like telling someone to 'stop' UV Rays.
4. To a point... it's a matter of personal taste. Either way, many people still post.
Dismissed.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:20 am
Whoa whoa whoa see now teezy you're trynna start a e-beef for no reason.Let's get something straight you didn't kick me out,I left.Last time I checked I was the one who hit that quit guild button,not you.I don't remeber you banning me or anything.unless of course you can magically jump through the computer screen and hitting quit guild for people.And the only reason I even considered coming back was because ImShizzle practically begged me to comeback here.I was done with Lg.All the bullshit and ******** was the reason I left.Rich boi himself even told me that he was gonna quit lg for the exact same reasons.I don't give a ******** about this s**t,it's just a bunch of niggas not acting they own age and getting excited over a ******** e-beef
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:27 am
Shenco Whoa whoa whoa see now teezy you're trynna start a e-beef for no reason.Let's get something straight you didn't kick me out,I left.Last time I checked I was the one who hit that quit guild button,not you.I don't remeber you banning me or anything.unless of course you can magically jump through the computer screen and hitting quit guild for people.And the only reason I even considered coming back was because ImShizzle practically begged me to comeback here.I was done with Lg.All the bullshit and ******** was the reason I left.Rich boi himself even told me that he was gonna quit lg for the exact same reasons.I don't give a ******** about this s**t,it's just a bunch of niggas not acting they own age and getting excited over a ******** e-beef I specifically said... let's debate... Me and Jaiden... And here you are... Which is proving my justification 4... anyways... Rich_boi wasn't adding s**t to this place but trash... who gives a ********... name someone better.
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Jaiden Stryker Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:29 am
1. People do what they will. Like I said, I don't always agree with what people do, but that's what they do. However, the controversy you seem so fond of is causing more damage to the RH than the e-bangers do.
2. Mak left. Another addition to the "and more" part is the fact that RH had more topics with flaming than we did keystyling/audios going on. It's Rapper's Haven for a reason.
3. You don't feed a fire. You contain it. New people get involved in beef that's already in progress. One example is a new guy making a thread about ceaz only to talk s**t about him. Another was R1ch_Boy doing the same thing to Chaos. Two new guys seeing problems between others, so they decide to jump in and choose sides. Before you add, you fix already existing problems. Learn about it sometime.
4. Yes, it's a personal opinion. And I'm going to continue to have, and express this opinion. Good day.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:29 am
C Teezy Shenco Whoa whoa whoa see now teezy you're trynna start a e-beef for no reason.Let's get something straight you didn't kick me out,I left.Last time I checked I was the one who hit that quit guild button,not you.I don't remeber you banning me or anything.unless of course you can magically jump through the computer screen and hitting quit guild for people.And the only reason I even considered coming back was because ImShizzle practically begged me to comeback here.I was done with Lg.All the bullshit and ******** was the reason I left.Rich boi himself even told me that he was gonna quit lg for the exact same reasons.I don't give a ******** about this s**t,it's just a bunch of niggas not acting they own age and getting excited over a ******** e-beef I specifically said... let's debate... Me and Jaiden... And here you are... Which is proving my justification 4... anyways... Rich_boi wasn't adding s**t to this place but trash... who gives a ********... name someone better. Well I think I'm justified in entering the conversation when my name is used in a negative way and lies are being told about me.And it doesn't matter if he was trash or not,he was still a member of the guild and he had a complaint about the way things were goin on in this guild.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:37 am
Jaiden Stryker 1. People do what they will. Like I said, I don't always agree with what people do, but that's what they do. However, the controversy you seem so fond of is causing more damage to the RH than the e-bangers do. 2. Mak left. Another addition to the "and more" part is the fact that RH had more topics with flaming than we did keystyling/audios going on. It's Rapper's Haven for a reason. 3. You don't feed a fire. You contain it. New people get involved in beef that's already in progress. One example is a new guy making a thread about ceaz only to talk s**t about him. Another was R1ch_Boy doing the same thing to Chaos. Two new guys seeing problems between others, so they decide to jump in and choose sides. Before you add, you fix already existing problems. Learn about it sometime. 4. Yes, it's a personal opinion. And I'm going to continue to have, and express this opinion. Good day. 1) Yea I have something i would like to say. Um.. what? 2)Mak left... Wasn't that the dude that started the beefs most of the time? So umm... shouldn't it be "dramatically better" all of the sudden? 3) I added you in the midst of a beef between mak and some dude... and you didn't jump into it. NOW who's assuming. Besides... if I'm supporting beef... why would i give two ******** about how big it gets? I like fire... so I would love to add jet fuel. 4)i didn't say... don't express opinion. i just posted up mine in response to yours... and well... speaking of personal opinion, shenco has deemed this a beef. So should this beef end seeing that it has and will not contribute to a battle of any sort? If yes, I win. If no, I win. Choose wisely.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:40 am
C Teezy Jaiden Stryker 1. People do what they will. Like I said, I don't always agree with what people do, but that's what they do. However, the controversy you seem so fond of is causing more damage to the RH than the e-bangers do. 2. Mak left. Another addition to the "and more" part is the fact that RH had more topics with flaming than we did keystyling/audios going on. It's Rapper's Haven for a reason. 3. You don't feed a fire. You contain it. New people get involved in beef that's already in progress. One example is a new guy making a thread about ceaz only to talk s**t about him. Another was R1ch_Boy doing the same thing to Chaos. Two new guys seeing problems between others, so they decide to jump in and choose sides. Before you add, you fix already existing problems. Learn about it sometime. 4. Yes, it's a personal opinion. And I'm going to continue to have, and express this opinion. Good day. 1) Yea I have something i would like to say. Um.. what? 2)Mak left... Wasn't that the dude that started the beefs most of the time? So umm... shouldn't it be "dramatically better" all of the sudden? 3) I added you in the midst of a beef between mak and some dude... and you didn't jump into it. NOW who's assuming. Besides... if I'm supporting beef... why would i give two ******** about how big it gets? I like fire... so I would love to add jet fuel. 4)i didn't say... don't express opinion. i just posted up mine in response to yours... and well... speaking of personal opinion, shenco has deemed this a beef. So should this beef end seeing that it has and will not contribute to a battle of any sort? If yes, I win. If no, I win. Choose wisely. never said anything about it being a beef,I said you're trying to start one
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Jaiden Stryker Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:40 am
C Teezy Jaiden Stryker 1. People do what they will. Like I said, I don't always agree with what people do, but that's what they do. However, the controversy you seem so fond of is causing more damage to the RH than the e-bangers do. 2. Mak left. Another addition to the "and more" part is the fact that RH had more topics with flaming than we did keystyling/audios going on. It's Rapper's Haven for a reason. 3. You don't feed a fire. You contain it. New people get involved in beef that's already in progress. One example is a new guy making a thread about ceaz only to talk s**t about him. Another was R1ch_Boy doing the same thing to Chaos. Two new guys seeing problems between others, so they decide to jump in and choose sides. Before you add, you fix already existing problems. Learn about it sometime. 4. Yes, it's a personal opinion. And I'm going to continue to have, and express this opinion. Good day. 1) Yea I have something i would like to say. Um.. what? 2)Mak left... Wasn't that the dude that started the beefs most of the time? So umm... shouldn't it be "dramatically better" all of the sudden? 3) I added you in the midst of a beef between mak and some dude... and you didn't jump into it. NOW who's assuming. Besides... if I'm supporting beef... why would i give two ******** about how big it gets? I like fire... so I would love to add jet fuel. 4)i didn't say... don't express opinion. i just posted up mine in response to yours... and well... speaking of personal opinion, shenco has deemed this a beef. So should this beef end seeing that it has and will not contribute to a battle of any sort? If yes, I win. If no, I win. Choose wisely. Name the beef I was in. And when don't I accept battles? Make a thread and drop.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:43 am
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