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 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:55 pm
AlaLavei Augh. Is it just me or does anyone else loathe Ernest Hemmingway too? gonk
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:07 pm
EDIT:WHATEVER
Ernest Hemmingway is great. Old Man and the Sea is the book we had to read in middle school and everyone hated it and decided that they hated him too. Is that what you read?
Everything else is actually pretty interesting. ESPECIALLY HIS MEMOIRS! xd
Those are great because he bashes on everyone! Like, I remember he kept calling Fitzgerald weak. I don't know, I thought that was funny.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:25 am
gonk I mean, Hemmingway himself seems like a cool guy, and the whole piece where he mocked Fitzgerald's ... ::cough:: manhood was pretty funny, but all in all his style just annoys me. Just reading his writing I get frustrated. It's all "Blah he said Blah she said Blah they said." The teacher keeps going on about all this deep symbolism, but I just don't see it. "Nick was happy. It was a good camp. Nick opened a can. Nick liked opening cans," does nothing for me. The characters intentions are pretty obvious, and I'm pretty sure that doesn't classify as symbolism.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:30 pm
My co-worker loves Hemingway b/c he's a minimalist. I haven't read enough but I assume he's very good, one of those highly lauded writers.
I really want to read Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami. I've read excerpts and it's very well written.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:35 pm
I'm afraid I don't have much experience outside of European authors, but I'm one of those people who believe that stories should be all plot and symbolism and such. People like Hemmingway make me angry with their short sentences. D:
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:43 pm
I think Hemingway wrote best about "extreme" situations. Like about the Spanish Civil war and WW1. For Whom the Bell Tolls is my favorite out of all of his writing. I think he wrote it after he spent time in Spain during the war as a reporter.
I actually read kind of a lot about Hemingway. 0_o The thing about Fitzgerald was the most controversial, but I think the one he really hated was Virginia Woolf. xd He thought she was really pompous or something. Oh, and he didn't like... what was his name... Dos Pasaz? Well, that guy went to cover the war too and Hemingway bashed him because he never left his hotel. xd
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:02 pm
Does Kafka on the Shore have anything to do with Franz Kafka? ninja
:looks up review:
OH, I read something by this guy before! A short story book. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:05 pm
There are so many things I want to read right now! First, I want to finish this series by Jasper Fford. It starts off with a book called The Eyre Affair and it's about this weird alternate world where everyone is obsessed with books. (Have I said something about it already? I've kind of been freaking out about these books lately. xd )
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:37 am
I'm currently reading David Eddings' "The Belgariad" series. I'm up to book 4/5. I'm also reading Chobits, not really a book, but it's readable.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:32 am
I love Kafka. The Metamorphosis is my favorite short story. I need to re-read his others b/c I don't remember them.
I disagree about books being all about plot and symbolism. I mean, I can enjoy them to a degree, but I like variety. Do whatever you feel.
Speaking of books with symbolism, anyone like William Burroughs? Okay, maybe he's not so much symbolism as psychotic drug ramblings.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:02 pm
I'm in the middle of the Iliad, and I've almost finished a non-fictional book on the psychology of ancient Egypt. Very weird. D: My friend's forcing me to read "Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" because she thinks it's just the best thing since sliced bread.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:09 pm
I've never bothered with underlining titles while chatting before, but it seems useful now. o_0He's one of my favorite writers. The Trial was the first book of his I read. Metamorphosis was my favorite too though. There was a whole chapter in (literally) The Trial in Lost in a Good Book: Quote: The Magistrate looked at me, took out his watch, and said: "You should have been here an hour and five minutes ago." There was an excited murmur from the crowd. Snell opened his mouth to say something, but it was I that answered. "I know," I said, having read a bit of Kafka in my youth and attempting a radical approach to the proceedings, "I am to blame. I beg the court's pardon." At first the Magistrate didn't hear me and he began to repeat himself for the benefit of the crowd: "You should have been here an hour and-- What did you say?" "I said I was sorry and begged your pardon, sir," I repeated. "Oh," said the Examining Magistrate as a hush fell upon the room. "In that case, would you like to go away and come back in, say, an hour and five minutes' time, when you will be late through no fault of your own?" The whole chapter was pretty crazy and ridiculous, but I loved it. I mean, it's in The Trial! xd But, if they went into Metamorphosis... eek
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:34 am
AlaLavei gonk I mean, Hemmingway himself seems like a cool guy, and the whole piece where he mocked Fitzgerald's ... ::cough:: manhood was pretty funny, but all in all his style just annoys me. Just reading his writing I get frustrated. It's all "Blah he said Blah she said Blah they said." The teacher keeps going on about all this deep symbolism, but I just don't see it. "Nick was happy. It was a good camp. Nick opened a can. Nick liked opening cans," does nothing for me. The characters intentions are pretty obvious, and I'm pretty sure that doesn't classify as symbolism. I hate that when teachers do that @_@ Like even if it was a good book, they just go on to tell you about how there was a deeper meaning to it, and you begin to hate the book because your teacher makes it so boring mad
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:39 pm
Since when does some "deeper meaning" make a book boring?
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:44 pm
D: It doesn't. I throughly enjoy it, especially in the form of controversial extended metaphors, but Hemingway isn't much for any of that, and I don't see where he's coming from half the time. I've tried reading online reading guides along with the book, but even they don't seem to offer very much.
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