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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:39 pm
Slash Zinrai The Great Absolute I'd love for you to tell me what is too much for my version of Ertai in the CoC? Not even going into my character beyond that, especially with you. I have no problem with Kaori- I just don't like her victim like whining where it is playing off she was at such a severe disadvantage. No, actually, you wouldn't; which is why you're jumping to defend yourself even now by lashing out at my build...like you have any idea what I mean when I say it's broken. The breaks are late in play, primarily after Enter the Tiger Level two...where he could, in theory, use his abilities to create a nearly unblockable series of attacks. At the start of a fight, he is "human martial artist with magic staff". No energy, no powers. That said, I'm more-so pointing out that just because you think it's clever to build your character with near-invulnerability to everything doesn't make it so...and it doesn't make for an interesting fight. Kaori has every right to feel like a victim...because you treated her like one in character. Playing nice in PMs, and thrashing each other in character, does not make you friendly or helpful to each other; I dealt with the exact same thing with Glacialic in HoH last year. Defending myself against a slight that my character is broken? You're so ******** stupid it is beyond comprehension to me. Your character currently eclipses my character in the amount of broken a**-hattery. I'd love for you to tear Ertai down. Go right ahead. I treated her like a victim IC? Well no s**t. I'm sorry that you're grasping at straws.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:40 pm
Red the Ambivalent Why... ...You... My profile...? I'm going to critique it, if you want me to I'll delete what I posted. It was a reminder to come back later.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:40 pm
Slash Zinrai See, you're taking what I said out of context. The claws can pierce stone...Eric isn't grabbing rocks and breaking them... He had a grip on your head, legitimately, based on how you described the hold to me (because, remember, I played this out IRL for clarity)...A hold he maintained for three posts, constantly squeezing, which you didn't bother to contend with. I accepted you sliding away because, honestly, I thought that...when it went to review...the judges would say "Wait, did he just...like...auto cancel a three post build-up in one move?" and say something. My complaint has more to do with the fact that you like to suggest, in the OOC, that the give-and-take was equal. I busted my a** in the last half to accommodate you, out of respect to your request to make the fight more interesting...and entertaining The fact that you don't really show any recognition of that fact is somewhat insulting. Slash, you are looking for an OOC confrontation when there doesn't have to be one. The give and take was equal. Both of our characters got ******** up as a result of that fight. You are pretending like I wasn't trying to accommodate you at all. I never once suggested that you didn't do the same. You being face down on the ground, reaching behind your back and squeezing at an object over your behind doesn't mean that object is suddenly an egg shell. You suggesting that you were preparing it for 3 turns is BS. Your character is constantly charging. It charges more if someone is hurting him. Erik is broken, we've already gone over this. You popped roaring fist at post 3 after grabbing his head, that doesn't mean you were preparing it 3 turns beforehand. You got the damage for it. Erik had the scalp to prove it. Another result was the destruction of the left arm. Right now, it sounds like you are pissed that Tres's head didn't just explode which is childish.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:43 pm
The Great Absolute Red the Ambivalent Why... ...You... My profile...? I'm going to critique it, if you want me to I'll delete what I posted. It was a reminder to come back later. Okay, I was wondering. No thats fine. I've been fixing it all morning, just need to get down to refining the weapons and armor, the rest I have fixed based off Hael's critic.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:48 pm
Slash Zinrai Tres Ecstuffuan I don't know about that... So, am I to take it that you believe...in some way...that I under-sold, or misrepresented, any of your actions to the same degree as: Electric-sliding out of a three-post skull grip with claws that can pierce stone, onto which I had utilized an ability that increased there penetrative strength? All of which you did faster than he could clench his hand...from being face down on top of him...in a wrestler's lock? I think that's a bit unfair. To be fair, while both of you were posting some weird stuff, you started the no-selling party by loldodging his lariat.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:48 pm
Oh Slash my profile is in the journal.
Feel free to take notes.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:51 pm
Bah I need to finish my post-
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:52 pm
Just Naota To be fair, while both of you were posting some weird stuff, you started the no-selling party by loldodging his lariat. I was complicit in the NO Uing party. Even though the judges eventually ruled it in my favor, the power bomb follow up post was a NO U when he tried to HOKUTO NO SHINKEN U ALREADY DEAD STUNNING FIST out of it. So my bad on that... So while Slash is complaining that Tres didn't get his brain exploded He pulled a bullshit dodge to get out of a Lariat, which at worst would have knocked him down doing...not much...in terms of actual damage.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:55 pm
The Great Absolute Defending myself against a slight that my character is broken? You're so ******** stupid it is beyond comprehension to me. Your character currently eclipses my character in the amount of broken a**-hattery. I'd love for you to tear Ertai down. Go right ahead. I treated her like a victim IC? Well no s**t. I'm sorry that you're grasping at straws. There is, literally, no substance to what you said here. Your character is broken because it is top-heavy...you seem to think that because people don't tell you this constantly, like they used to, that people have just accepted it. No, they're just tired of trying to explain it to you, because...as we see here...your response is "Yer stoopid, and everything you said about me is crap! I'm rubber, your glue!" My point is, with Kaori, you were holding a carrot in one hand...and a stick in the other. When the fight was going on, you were all carrot OOC...After the fact, when she suggests that she didn't have a good time...you switch to the stick. Again, you're jumping to the absolute extreme. I'm not looking for a confrontation, but if me telling you that I feel disrespected is grounds for a fight...as opposed to a discussion...then so be it I suppose? I allowed you to turn an awkward stab from 2in of crystal...with my body weight on top of your hands...into perforated organs. At most, you would've cut into the small intestine. But, again, I was trying to give you more lime-light. When you slammed me...I sacrificed an entire post, and didn't even attempt to contest your hold; Hell, I even worked out the specifics with you when the wording was unclear. I didn't flip out when you held a neck shield in place for the entirety of my tail choke. Nor did I complain when you skewered me with a spear after all the damage you had taken, being choked at an awkward angle, and having no legs to stand on. And, of course, I didn't argue when you slid away from my skull-crusher. The prep was in digging in with the claws, getting a firm enough hold...over the course of three posts...to make the most of his awkward positioning. But, of course, my character is the broken one.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:59 pm
Just Naota To be fair, while both of you were posting some weird stuff, you started the no-selling party by loldodging his lariat. The crystalline lariat was discussed in the OOC as it was happening, and Tres agreed. The ability of the construct to just -poof-, and attack, was too much...Which, if you notice later, he -did- add a manifested "tell" to the summoning. I more-so crashed through the damned thing, because...as was also pointed out...the clones are fairly brittle, and ill-suited to defend against attack. But, to clarify, I'm not saying that everything I did was right...or perfect..or any of that.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:03 pm
Slash Zinrai Again, you're jumping to the absolute extreme. I'm not looking for a confrontation, but if me telling you that I feel disrespected is grounds for a fight...as opposed to a discussion...then so be it I suppose? I'm willing to discuss it. I'm just not sure what you are complaining about...exactly... I appreciated everything you did for the second half of that fight. I don't like your character but I saw that you were trying. Quote: I allowed you to turn an awkward stab from 2in of crystal...with my body weight on top of your hands...into perforated organs. At most, you would've cut into the small intestine. But, again, I was trying to give you more lime-light. I appreciate you selling it. I'm not sure what I've said to say that I didn't appreciate it. The crystal grew out of his grasp. If you didn't want to make his organs perforated, you didn't have to. You could have simply had it cut into the small intestines. Like I said, I appreciated it. I gave you Tres's left arm for it. Quote: When you slammed me...I sacrificed an entire post, and didn't even attempt to contest your hold; Hell, I even worked out the specifics with you when the wording was unclear. You did contest that slam. We brought it to the judges. The judges ruled you got slammed for several reasons. I'm not sure how you would have contested the following hold. Quote: I didn't flip out when you held a neck shield in place for the entirety of my tail choke. I didn't flip out when you had a prehensile tail strong enough to choke him. Quote: Nor did I complain when you skewered me with a spear after all the damage you had taken, being choked at an awkward angle, and having no legs to stand on. He was never choked. His right arm was still usable (the arm he used to throw the spear) and he did so on his knees, clearly unable to stand. Quote: And, of course, I didn't argue when you slid away from my skull-crusher. The prep was in digging in with the claws, getting a firm enough hold...over the course of three posts...to make the most of his awkward positioning. But, of course, my character is the broken one. I don't know what you'd complain about. The ability was approved, no less than yours. So yes, this is about Tres's skull not exploding as a result of Roaring FIst...where I gave you his left arm and his scalp for it?
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:05 pm
Slash Zinrai Just Naota To be fair, while both of you were posting some weird stuff, you started the no-selling party by loldodging his lariat. The crystalline lariat was discussed in the OOC as it was happening, and Tres agreed. The ability of the construct to just -poof-, and attack, was too much...Which, if you notice later, he -did- add a manifested "tell" to the summoning. I more-so crashed through the damned thing, because...as was also pointed out...the clones are fairly brittle, and ill-suited to defend against attack. But, to clarify, I'm not saying that everything I did was right...or perfect..or any of that. The post before he used that ability, he began tuning up the item. Tres Ecstuffuan He followed through with the throw, moving forward as his crystal left hand would go for the Diamond dials on the underside of his right bracer, turning them towards a specific configuration, gazing forward at his opponent as the distance closed.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:08 pm
Swing and a miss Slash.
My character is balanced.
With this group of people, if I do something stupid they'll let me know- Not at an inconvience to them having to say it over and over either. They'd do it for the sport.
You're trash so there is that-
Kaori ran into a problem and didn't adapt to it. Her problem, I don't want to hear her whining over HURRRRRRR differences in character biology.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:12 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:18 pm
It's more-so that, despite putting additional effort in, I got nothing in the way of satisfaction as a writer (until now, and I appreciate you saying it). Of course I didn't -want- to have you pinning Eric like a butterfly, but I wanted to give you something for the points you were spending. I mean, in regards to the slam, that AFTER the judge call I didn't try to bullshit the hit. I respected the shock of getting dropped, and didn't immediately turn around and pull a "Is that all you got, bitty?" on you. I had Eric stunned, and pretty much action-less...so, when you set up your wrestler's hold, it went off as you wanted. It does seem sort of counter-productive to your argument to say that you didn't flip out about the tail choke when you...really...didn't...accept it. Lol. My point with the spear toss is more that I didn't try to avoid it, or say "oh, he's too weak/distracted to effectively do it." In fact, I took that hit...and essentially had Eric back down because of it. Which made both characters look like champs, really... And I'm not really bothered by the slide its self...it the fact that you untangled yourself from the hold, and jetted out, after I'd spent all that time priming him for that attack. Do I think, in the end, it was the right decision (whether I would've won the fight or not)...Of course I do! I think you made the right call FOR THE FIGHT, but...as a writer, I felt that I was taken you more seriously than you were me. Tres' scalp has become a HUGE plot-point, and quite a few people are having a good time because of it...So, no, it isn't that I'm mad you didn't blow your character's head off... More-so that, despite the lengths I went to, and the selling I did to try and bring some enjoyment back into the fight...you kept falling back on "Eric so broke.".
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