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Blasko No Kachi

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:48 am


*Comes out of his cave.* You guys need to seriously chill out...

....*Goes back into his cave.*
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:59 am


Oh hell... more troubles.. Why god why me... why ...*hits the floor 6 times*

Yeah, i just said no, i didn't sold you guys to the enemy like a damn judas... oh well, im gonna sit here on this little corner and see what happens.

MEGAZORD, COME FORTH!!!

NARANANANANA... xd

(yeah it's morphin' time bitches, hahahaha)

LatinoHeat


Whirlwind Heat

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:13 am


Roy. You seem to be the only sane person here. Everyone else has gone crazy. They have some good points but you all gotta chill.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:18 am


if he is sane then im doctor doom!

On a side note. This aint my problem, i just found out this morning but...

Isn't this just a communication problem?

AmericanDream


Antaine [Phoenix] McLeod

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:21 am


Craig sent me this, just for you guys 'cause he's been reading along with us:

Craig, The Darkness Makuta, Pohatu, Explosive TNT, Reaper etc etc

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2 - Lack of caring. I'm close to not caring anymore since it seems that the majority of my roster doesn't. They don't offer up any suggestions for booking, they don't write thier matches, and generally, it seems like most people just don't care.
Why do people not care? Because they're not socializing as a group of friends. Isn't that what an e-fed is? A group of people who are able to work together to get the job done. I don't see that in BTWF. I see a bunch of people who are at each other's throats, waiting for just the right moment to slit each other's necks.

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What happened to the spirit that made BTWF the number 1 fed on Gaia, and no Ryan, CTC never eclipsed us. What happened to people actually giving a ********? Did you all politic your spirits out until you just decided that you'd do things better your way? Tony, I made you WHC and were about to give you the storyline of the year, and you make your own fed because you don't think I'm booking you strong enough? Roy, I try and make you the top name on Gaia and you spit in my face? Ryan, you sit there and complain about how BTWF is day in and day out, but why do you stick around? Sure, I'm probably inviting the three of you to walk out, but I need to vent, so take this as you will.
GWF/CTC eclipsed BTWF on more then one occasion, Richy.

People stopped caring because they quit being friends, which meant less people were willing to work together. Tony felt like Randy Orton, taking the title from the champ just to lead up to the new champ.

Roy? Pfft, he doesn't care about YOU pushing him. He cares about the PEOPLE pushing him. The people who read the matches and think 'Hot Damn! That Mexican kicks a**!' If people think that when they read a match, then the writer has done a good job. How do I know this? Sparco. Sparco marks for TNT. Need I say more?

Ryan? Meh, him and me have hardly ever seen eye to eye, but we were willing to work together for a storyline to make the TV title (the title YOU'RE attempting to kill, Richard), something valuable again. What'd you do? Spit on my face and threw Ryan into the Gaia division. When I asked why we couldn't fued, you said he was already fueding with Kid Chaos. HELLO! That idiot shows up less often then Shannon does!

Okay, done with Rich now. NEXT!

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I seriously still laugh at all of you. Anthony Voorhees and his group (which I help out because I've been asked) are a bunch of angsty teenagers. And are pretty stubborn. Heat just likes to blow things out of proportion because he's a troublemaker. I haven't joined their guild. I'm only a temp.
So you laugh at us after agreeing to help? Yeah, thanks. Go throw yourself over a cliff.

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I'm not here to insult people, though it seems that way. I don't even complain. I'm just exaggerating what everyone is thinking and doing thorough analysis of what people are possibly thinking. Sure I make it seem like that's how I personally feel, but most of the time I don't. In fact, most of the time I'm not even sure what I'm saying. Seriously. You've been listening to a guy who's been pretty clueless of everything.
Well, I'm sure that's needed in a federation that you've been saying has been eclipsed by CTC.

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Want to know why I'm still here? Because the BTWF is competent, or can be. I stay here because I know that a lot of people are dedicated. Which means I won't be writing for a federation that will slack very often. I don't want to work for Schneider's OCW because some people just don't show up or even write their matches anymore (Cough, Jin Arishima).
So, you b***h about Jin not showing up to write matches, but then you're saying that you might do the same thing for WHA? Yeah, real smart.

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Yada yada yada, complaing about people complaing about working hard and not getting title shots
Not exactly one to talk, Ryan. You walked in and got an almost insta-title shot at the title that I had helped to make valuable. I made that title valuable again when I fueded with Voorhees. After the two of us lost that title? Didn't mean a damn thing. Meant about as much as the Gaia title did in Jason's run with it.

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Giant paragraph about whiners
Hyyyypocrit. You were one of the first people to start bitching when I suggested combining the then GWF with the BTWF. You also said that I was welcome to take back the fed at any time. I came back, and you whined saying that you wouldn't just hand it over. You jsut STFU.

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Now I may be a hypocrite about insulting Blade myself, but I was doing it only to make a statement. You can't rely on one man to run a guild. It's inefficient. You have to work WITH Blade. While you complain about him ruining the guild, how are you making it any better? By running off and making a new guild? And what if that guild fails? Run off to a new one? Run back to the BTWF? I certainly hope you guys are committed. And when I mean committed, you have no idea at all. I ran CTC "committed" and learned what the word truly meant.
How do you think I made GWF a success? By talking to the people. They didn't want to talk, or bitched about not getting a match? I jobbed 'em. Examples?

Rauk and that Crazy Man. Jobbed 'em both, one disappeared then came back with a better attitude. Other one disappeared and never returned. Everybody else got the picture after that.

Now my hands are tired from typing this up...so, in conclusion....

Dar, sorry. My bitching at you was uncalled for....

Twist, sorry for the animosity that got between us. Hope you're not out permanently.

Rich...close this down and I'll kick your a**.

Connors...quit trying to blame this on me, even if it's partial.

And to the rest of you haters....go ******** yourselves.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:28 am


Craig Craig, Craig.... im your friend, your vato, your pal, your partner.... but please, if you see this volcano about to explode, dont go inside and play ...

I saw ryans stuff and i understand it, McLeouds stuff and understood.. but you.. is just... crazy.

LatinoHeat


Blasko No Kachi

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:32 am


Bah, thank god I am yet to be put into THE BOX OF D00M!

Heres the deal, I have been in nearly ALL feds in gaia atlest once. ((CTC=Serj/Harkton,l GWA= Dream, EGW= BK/Serj, ect,)) but there is ONE fed that I know I could have A good time, ofcourse it is BTWF.

BTWF is like my second favorite fed I have visited. ((WWHW is first....Can't help it.)) Without BTWF, I would still be writing crappy promos, leet speak, god mod without knowing what I was doing, not meet people like Matt(Rocky), Matt(Conners), Heat, Steve-o, Craig, ford, Voorhees, Ryan(Or did I meet him in CTC...Hmm.) Richard, all these guys. Without BTWF, my buddy list would be empty.

So yeah.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:42 am


Craig wants be to go ******** myself. Great. -.-

Whirlwind Heat


Dreams of Eschaton
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:52 am


Meh. To tell you all the truth, I'm not leaving because of all the politics and bitching. Like Rich, I'm a patient guy. I can handle it. I may get pissed off at Ryan every so often for insinuating my brother is a mule and that I'm a whiny b***h, but my whiny bitching was more an outburst of frustration that came out like a whiny bitchrant. My apologies.

The reason I'm leaving is because I'm sick of writing. The Darson/Voorhees match at fadetoblack took me two weeks to write, and about six-eight hours every day working on and off to just barely get out two paragraphs or so. The ideas don't come to me anymore. I just sit there, staring at a word processor document that has the entrances, and that's it. Like Ryan, I'm in the BTWF to have fun. To write matches, to develop my character, to pretend I'm a real wrestler.

But I'm not having fun anymore. Sure, the fact that it seems like the BTWF is in a constant state of turmoil isn't really helping with my disposition, but if I was still having fun writing, I could get over it easily enough. Now, though, I have no desire to write anymore. As much as I don't want to leave the BTWF, I'm not going to be useful for anything. Unless anybody wants to keep me on to continue booking Re:Volution and update the site. I could probably deal with doing that. But I can't write matches or promos anymore.

It really upsets me that I have to leave like this. All the other times I've died, they were against my will. This time I'm leaving by my own violition. It's a lot different. I've put a lot of work into the BTWF over the past year. It's pretty much dominated my internet life. And it was fine. I have many more good memories from BTWF than I do the bad. And I'm disappointed that I'm not going to be around for some of the plans we had for the future.

But in the end, there's nothing I can do. Maybe I'll get the urge to start writing again someday. But for now, the creative juices aren't even there, much less flowing. I don't want to see the BTWF die. To have spent as much time as I have at this fed, to have invested so much time in it at the expense of my social life (what little of it there is), and even some of my grades, just to see it all get flushed away because some people can't get along? It's sad.

I've stuck by Rich in the past. And whatever he decides to do, I suppose I'll stick by that, too. But I can only hope that his decision is one that will help the BTWF in the end. Whether it's some booking changes to make up for the absences, or to finally put the BTWF down before it can get any sicker.

The tumor's there, guys. What you all do in the near future will decide whether it's malignant or benign.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:53 am


Don't feel bad Ninja one, is just pure talk.

Little by little im realizing the real deal here....

LatinoHeat


Whirlwind Heat

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:57 am


LatinoHeat
Don't feel bad Ninja one, is just pure talk.

Little by little im realizing the real deal here....


I think we're all realizing the real deal here Heat. ninja
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:38 am


I leave for a few days for some R&R and this place goes to the shiter What the ******** is up with s**t I mean I have been here for I don't know maybe just over or just under a year I mean and I don't care about the backstage s**t hell until 2 or 3 months ago I wasn't even aware of this bullshit. I mean these whiny ******** maggots bitching and complaining about wanting title and not doing s**t and people bitching about not being respected and this other s**t you all need my philosophy Of ******** it and ******** what people think about you a title means jack s**t sure having a title is a nice thing but not having one is not the end of the world I mean I have had more Disappointments, let downs and broke hopes and shattered dreams when comes to titles and title shoots then almost the entire roaster and I haven't quit because I believe that all that s**t I had to go through was all part of paying dues and I am a better wrestler because of it and Blade I say you need to say ******** it and soldier on because I know the bullshit that a booker/ owner has to go through when s**t happens that people like you are a god when s**t goes wrong you are the sacrificial lamb on the Alter of the options of the roaster but remember blade I will stand by whatever decide you come up with but if you close before I can have my PPV match I will hunt you down and kill you in the slowest most painful way I know and believe me you don't want that aside from that I will stand by you

Tust


Hells Guardian657

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:05 am


Alright time for me to get a word......

Blade you talk about how you book the way you like, and you don''t like the way people talk about how you book. Well the point is, you should listen to what people have to say and talk to others about plans for the month...I said it before (as the rock said) To most of us here, this is home and this is family and we all enjoy working together, and if you don''t like it, then get the ******** out... I think we do need some changes, not alot but some...

1) Someone really needs to delete some old threads that arent used anymore, like the SD HctP thread, my Bday thread, Blades Bday thread, and others like that, that dont have a point behind them.

2) At the start of every month, at least 5 people and Blade should have a meeting over Aim or MSN this way ideas are spread out, and its not just one person that takes the heat for everything...

3) A new thread should be started titled "Do you really want to be here" and the only people that should post in there are people that really want to be in this fed.

Those are just three changes I think will help this fed get back in shape..If you ask me its time to go back to the beginning and get back to the basics that made this fed what it is. I don''t want to see the BTWF go down, to many people that like it here are here and most likely will agree they don''t want to see it go down. So listen to my words, try my advice...And everyone remember that no matter what happens the blame is not on one person, it is on everyones hands.

The Charismatic Diablo is done
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:18 pm


Now this man has a point. I agree with everyone of those things.

Whirlwind Heat


Slumberphonic

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:57 pm


Pohatu
X
I seriously still laugh at all of you. Anthony Voorhees and his group (which I help out because I've been asked) are a bunch of angsty teenagers. And are pretty stubborn. Heat just likes to blow things out of proportion because he's a troublemaker. I haven't joined their guild. I'm only a temp.
So you laugh at us after agreeing to help? Yeah, thanks. Go throw yourself over a cliff.


What's wrong with helping out people that you laugh at? Just because I find this all funny, doesn't mean I'm one to sit there and continue laughing. When my friends need help, I help them. Regardless of how ridiculous I think things are.

Pohatu
X
I'm not here to insult people, though it seems that way. I don't even complain. I'm just exaggerating what everyone is thinking and doing thorough analysis of what people are possibly thinking. Sure I make it seem like that's how I personally feel, but most of the time I don't. In fact, most of the time I'm not even sure what I'm saying. Seriously. You've been listening to a guy who's been pretty clueless of everything.
Well, I'm sure that's needed in a federation that you've been saying has been eclipsed by CTC.


As ambiguous as that paragraph is, I can say this. I ran the CTC that way.

Pohatu
X
Want to know why I'm still here? Because the BTWF is competent, or can be. I stay here because I know that a lot of people are dedicated. Which means I won't be writing for a federation that will slack very often. I don't want to work for Schneider's OCW because some people just don't show up or even write their matches anymore (Cough, Jin Arishima).
So, you b***h about Jin not showing up to write matches, but then you're saying that you might do the same thing for WHA? Yeah, real smart.


Wow. Can you say "talking out of the rectum"? I'm just saying that the BTWF has willing people. I'm not even complaining about Jin, I'm only making a joke pardon my non-usage of smiley faces and just-kidding acronyms you dolt. And where am I saying that I'll do the same for WHA? I'm not even part of the roster nor do I plan to write matches. If I did "pull a Jin" it'd be because you guys were pulling an OCW. Don't ever argue against me if you can't even begin to understand me.

Pohatu
Pohatu trying to sound like he knows what's going on.
Yada yada yada, complaing about people complaing about working hard and not getting title shots
Not exactly one to talk, Ryan. You walked in and got an almost insta-title shot at the title that I had helped to make valuable. I made that title valuable again when I fueded with Voorhees. After the two of us lost that title? Didn't mean a damn thing. Meant about as much as the Gaia title did in Jason's run with it.


Actually I pretty much had to wait about three months before grabbing that title before it was taken off of me very briefly before it came back to me. I never asked for my titles, I never even aimed for them. Never once did I complain and I had fun doing it. That's all I can say. My goal in GWF, CTC, and in BTWF was never to hold a title. It was to have fun.

Pohatu
Pohatu trying to summarize.
Giant paragraph about whiners
Hyyyypocrit. You were one of the first people to start bitching when I suggested combining the then GWF with the BTWF. You also said that I was welcome to take back the fed at any time. I came back, and you whined saying that you wouldn't just hand it over. You jsut STFU.


Wow, emotions boiling over? Use your logic. I never complained about GWF and BTWF combining. I said I would back you up if that was your decision if you don't recall. I'm sorry if you were offended by the things I said, but I never once meant any of my words to be hostile. That's just you being hasty. Again. I sure did welcome you back, I even let you have a sub-owner status regardless of what everyone else wanted. You blew it, not me. But you were always welcome to stay. You're the one that left. I never whined about handing it over. I was using my logic again and thinking about the guild as a whole. I listened to the opinions of all my moderators and anyone on the roster. I had to make a compromise with everyone to let you on board as a sub-owner. I'm sorry for listening to people Mr. Potato Head. You preach that you listen too, so I'm sure you'd understand. If not, you're the hypocrite, not me. Stop thinking with your a**. Just because it seems like I personally hate you and Voorhees, I don't. So don't try to make everything in the past sound negative by letting your emotions get in the way.

Pohatu
X
Now I may be a hypocrite about insulting Blade myself, but I was doing it only to make a statement. You can't rely on one man to run a guild. It's inefficient. You have to work WITH Blade. While you complain about him ruining the guild, how are you making it any better? By running off and making a new guild? And what if that guild fails? Run off to a new one? Run back to the BTWF? I certainly hope you guys are committed. And when I mean committed, you have no idea at all. I ran CTC "committed" and learned what the word truly meant.
How do you think I made GWF a success? By talking to the people. They didn't want to talk, or bitched about not getting a match? I jobbed 'em. Examples?

Rauk and that Crazy Man. Jobbed 'em both, one disappeared then came back with a better attitude. Other one disappeared and never returned. Everybody else got the picture after that.


Pardon me, but weren't you unsatisfied with GWF? Which is why you tried to let BTWF absorb it? Not combine. Absorb. Don't tell me about your success. I never once thought about giving up my own guild to run off to another. That's committment. That's also courtesy. I did leave the guild behind but I never once thought about taking it with me. My ego just isn't that big, I'm sorry.

Calm down and talk through a clear head rather than your emotions. And if you talk with your emotions, at least learn how to control them properly before attacking a guy who is merely stating things. I'm not whining, which is use of logic filtered with emotion and one-sided arguements. I'm stating things while accepting what other people think. I'm not out to point out every character flaw you have. I merely ask that you accept other opinions before actually attacking.

Metaphor: Don't be a nazi just because I'm Jewish.
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