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 Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:22 pm
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Probably revenge for the Crusades. xp
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:24 pm
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The Ottomans wanted to control Europe not so much for revenge for the Crusades, but it is indicative that they want to extend their empire as far as possible.
As for their rivalry with the Persian dynasties, it is mainly because of religious reasons.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:28 pm
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I thought that it was Eastern Europe that they tried to expand into. confused
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:31 pm
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They didn't just want Eastern Europe. They also wanted the Western portion.
The reason as to why the Ottomans and the Persians had a rivalry is due to two reasons:
1. The Ottomans follow Sunni Islam, whereas the Persians are predominantly Shia.
2. They want a lot of political control and prestige.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:33 pm
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Too bad they didn't want to modernize. That held them back. confused
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:35 pm
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That, and the Ottomans are notorious for having those father-son rivalries.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:37 pm
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Lol, I remember learning in European History that when the ruler of the Ottoman Empire died, the sons would have to race to the palace and whoever got there first was the new ruler. xd It was supposed to be the eldest son, but fighting always ensued anyway.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:41 pm
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Exactly. Their rivalries for the throne drained the empire of resources and much-needed military development.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:43 pm
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I'm sure that most of Europe had royal rivalries too. The other funny thing I learned was that Poland was 15% nobles and that each one had a veto vote in parliament. They could never get anything done. xp
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:45 pm
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They did. surprised
Had the Polish nobles been able to decide in a good compromise, then Poland would not be chopped up between the Prussians to the west and the Russians to the east.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:48 pm
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The Austrians got a chunk too. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:50 pm
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Exactly, but it was not as large as what the Prussians or the Russians have chopped up.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:51 pm
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It's quite surprising that they just took parts of Poland and no-one did anything about it. Poor Poland. sad
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:02 pm
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Agreed.
Had the Persians decided to invade the Ottomans around 1571, then the Persians would have modern-day Iraq, Kuwait, parts of Jordan and Arabia.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:08 pm
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Russia should have grabbed some sea-access then. biggrin
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