Inai is ignoring your post because she said she really doesn't care what you have to say.
But since you're so stubborn as to feel the need to see a reply from me for whatever reason, I'll give you one. And I won't hold back my words.
I don't recall asking for a reply. All I said is that it's stupid for you to judge me on only what you see me post in the Kyo thread (which obviously, I don't like him and you do, so you assume I'm a bad person or something).First of all, "generalization" only applies to two or more, usually more people. Generalization refers to a group of people, which you are not.
Generalization requires judging someone when you don't know about them. That is EXACTLY what you're doing.Therefore, I believe that the word you were looking for was judging. Yes, I've judged you. I've judged you based on what I've seen.
Like I said, you judge me based on only what I say in the Kyo thread, which you never like what I have to say here, so you automatically assume I'm a bad person. I know for a fact you've neer even talked to me outside of room 304. It's not that you dislike Kyo.
You could have fooled me It's that you have such blantant disrespect and rudeness.
Yes I do..... For KYO, which as I said before, you like him and I don't and you don't like me because I don't like Kyo. I know for a fact you don't like me because you once talked to me on IM and thought I was an a** or something because again, I've never talked to you outside of room 304. It's that you continue to repeat yourself,
Yet you STILL don't get what I'm saying but want to attack me for something you THINK I mean. that your posts make little to no sense, are full of typos and misused words, and are generally hard to understand.
Well not everyone types perfectly. I really don't care if you think I'm horrible at typing, but that's really not a legitimate reason to dislike me. It's that you make assumptions based on things you can't or won't prove,
No, I have an opinion which doesn't agree with yours. or even so much as give the source of your supposed information.
I believe I said this before someone I know said they heard/saw it in an interview. I've asked you several times where you've gotten the information you claim to have that Kyo doesn't like black people, and not once have you responded with any sensible or provable claims.
see my reply above You are free to have your own opinion. But your choice of words and lack of sensible reason as to why you dislike Kyo is what I dislike.
I believe I've said many times before that I mainly don't like Kyo because he's the least talented of the band, but most fans make him out to be god, or so much better than the others. All I think he does is write generic repetitive lyrics, and he has a whiney dischord singing voice. The words "talentless a**" use no respect, or even tact.
As I said, I had almost been stabbed to death before I posted that. You wouldn't have been in the best mood either, especially not to hear people trying to brainwash you into a new way of thinking. And as I said before, no, I don't have respect for Kyo, but you seem to be assuming I'm a bad person because I don't worship him like you do. Why should I respect him at all? Because you do?That's what I don't like about you, or your posts.
As I said, you couldn't dislike me for me, because you don't know me, all you know is that I don't like Kyo. You've never talked to me outside of this guild. I've tried being civil with you, and when you haven't been so rude, I have been civil, even if I've disagreed.
I'm rude because I don't like Kyo? Oh, I thought you said everyone is intitled to their own opinions? What? I'm not as long as I disagree with your opinion? Disagreement, however you may see it, is not a crime. You are allowed to have your opinion, as I am allowed to have mine. My opinion, however, is worded with some regard for decency.
xd as I said, why should I be so respectful of Kyo like and act like he's god if I don't like him or don't agree he should be treated with such respect? I'm sure you think I should be respectful of him because you like him and think everyone should worship him because he's so talented.You speak of racism as though it is so bad.
xd You know what, don't even speak to me about racisim, because of this statement. I'm almost positive you've never had to experience REAL racisim first hand. Oh there's nothing wrong with racisim, untill people physically attack you because they don't like your skin color, or you're afraid to even leave your house because of what racists might do to you if they get a hold of you. I don't like racism, but your earlier generalization, where you stated that all Japanese people are racist,
If I recall correctly, I said "Most", not "all". I think I also said "I always leave room for exception". is racism in itself.
I speak from lots of people I know who went there and were treated unkindly by the Japanese people they encountered. I don't hate Japanese people, or want to harm them or anything like that. THAT is racisim (not like you would know), but I'm not racist. As I said, I just speak from the experiences of many people I know who went there and were treated unkindly (and MOST of the people I know who went there were black, but I do know a few people who went ther who are white). You speak of an entire race with one negative opinion you applied to every Japanese person - that is racism.
As I said before, I never said "all" which would imply I was speaking about the whole race, as you just said. I said some, which means NOT ALL people in Japan. And if I don't like Japanese people so much (as you seem to think), why am I obsessed with their culture? I mean My Grandfather was a Japanese Prisoner of War in world war 2. Regaurdless of how mistreated and tortured he was then, I don't hate Japanese people for that. If I did, I wouldn't continuously be trying to learn more about their country, and listen to their music, etc. You may not see that as hypocricy or racism, but it is both.
see my replies above. If you hate racism so much as you claim to, then why do you state racist comments?
See what I said above Is it because you aren't Japanese, therefore it doesn't hurt you? Racism is racism, regardless of who it is targeted toward.
As I said, you've never even experienced real racism for yourself (or so I'm willing to bet), so don't even speak to me, and try and lecture me on this subject. You don't know what it's like to be sitting in a park with your family and have some stupid people dive by in a car and call your mom a ****** lover, and call you a ****** (even from your own family), or even (as what happened to me yesterday) have someone call you a ****** and try and stab you.Talent is in the opinion of the person viewing or hearing the talent.
As I said in another post: I quit with this opinion thing. You have the same mentality of people who would say poop smells nice. No matter how positive you are it doesn't you just can't convince them otherwise, once they've decided they like something. Kyo's vocal talent amazes me - his voice can vary so much and so quickly, from his screams to his beautiful singing to the pain his voice sometimes holds when he sings to the other amazing things he can do with his voice. I see that as talent, and you don't have to state a hundred times that you don't think it's talent - your opinion is known, just disagreed with.
see my comment above, although you seem to think it's okay for people to disagree, unles they disagree with YOU.... about KYO of all things. I remember that when you were disagreed with, you acted as though those disagreeing with you were being cruel to you.
Um, no, I just think people who disagree with me are wrong (obviously, otherwise we would agree). Although I don't see what shots at my typing errors really have to do with the topic, in any case. Unless we're talking about English, which in this case and any other in this guild, it's not. We simply stated our own opinions, after you stated yours. Our opinions disagreed with each other, but they were our own opinions.
I never said they weren't. If you want people to view your opinion as lacking venom,
I don't ever recall saying that. Although sometimes I do think I may have said things too harshly, and before I can change the post, or appologize I hear,"Oh, your grammar is horrible! You're an idiot" from the same people (like you) who say "it's okay to disagree". It's just that hearing the brainwashed words of foeaming-at-the-mouth Kyo fan girls angers me, and since I've joined this guild I like Kyo about 600% less than I used to. don't say it in such a rude way.
So I'm supposed to change what I think to make you happy? When we stated our opinions, we stated them in a normal way, pointing out what we liked about Kyo's voice and lyrics,
Which is what I did on the Kyo poetry thread. I said I don't like his lyrics because they're generic and repetitive, and the song Mama was dischord and simple, like something a child would write, that repeats the same 4 notes and off beat cymbol sounds the whole song. But somehow when I say my opinion, and you don't like it, I'm saying it too harshly. yet you claimed that we were being cruel just because we disagreed with you.
xd no I probably claimed you were being cruel saying things like "You're a moron with bad grammar". Because really that sunds like somethign a kid, who can't come up with anything better to say would say,"Oh yeah! Well your mom is ugly!" rolleyes Yet you don't expect to be viewed as tactless and cruel, when you state your opinions as you do?
Like I said, my opinion only seems cruel to you because I don't like Kyo, a man you worship and adore. Kyo's lyrics are something that not everyone can understand.
Like I said, It's pretty easy to see that his lyrics are repetitive when there's at least 20 songs (I'm not really going to go count them all) which are about the same things. Bleeding, and being so depressed, and wanting to kill people. On the surface, they may seem simple, if you don't understand them.
See my post above, I never said they were simple, just generic and repetitive. There are hidden meanings and depth to the lyrics that most other writers don't use.
I believe I've noticed, and didn't need you to tell me this. It's called being vauge and only giving hints as to the real meanings of the point you're trying ot get across. LOTS of people do it. One song can have layer upon layer of meanings and suggested meanings, which you may not see, but many members of this guild can see.
As I said before, I've noticed this and didn't need you to tell me, but LOTS of people write the same things. If your lack of understanding leads you to think that Kyo has no lyrical talent, then that is not our fault, but you have no right to criticize us for liking Kyo's lyrics.
See what I said above, just because I don't like Kyo's lyrics like you do doesn't mean I don't understand them. I do, and I just don't like them, and as I said, I have my reasons. And just because I don't like his lyrics also doesn't mean I'm a nincompoop and there MUST be something else there I'm not getting, because otherwise I would just LOOVE him like you do. You may try to argue that the hidden meanings and layers in Kyo's lyrics aren't there, but they are, even if you are incapable of seeing them.
see what I said above. And this assuming about what I think, and trying to hint that I'm a moron is VERY childish. Kyo sticks to vocals because he is a vocalist, and he considers his voice to be the means of expression of his lyrics.
Because he's not as good with music. See what I said about Mama earlier. He can do with his own voice whatever he thinks fits the lyrics that he wrote, and he would not want to leave the expression of his lyrics up to anyone but himself.
So what? If Kyo attempted to play or learn to play an instrument, he could do it,
He couldn't even do well in school. Or did he drop out? But again, that's YOUR opinion, you don't know for sure, because it seems like he hasn't ever really tried. Talk about basing your opinions on nothing. but that is not what he has chosen to do,
It seems like he TRIED to learn instruments before (because he plays bass and guitar a tad bit). But it doesn't seem to me like he did very well at it, hence he only plays a LITTLE. and you have no right to criticize him for his choice of profession.
I don't recall ever saying ANYTHING about his choise of profession. I just said I don't like his song writing int he song Mama, or his singing voice in select songs, OR a large, large majority of his lyrics. I don't see where I ever said,"He should have never become a vocalist!" I wouldn't. Some of the best rock bands in the world have horrible vocalists (no this doesn't man I think he's TOTALLY horrible). Some people prefer to be vocalists over being guitarists, drummers, bassists, or players of other instruments, and that is their choice.
I didn't say it wasn't, but I play a few instruments, song write, AND do lyrics, and sing. I just don't find most of his works impressive. It's insulting when someone can work for YEARS to train their voice, and someone like Kyo is worshiped for his voice. And I have an interview in a magazine where he himself said he never had voice lessons (which I could have told you that before I read it), and just sort of does whatever he wants with his voice. I am saying his voice is untrained (and he's no natural), and I'm not basing it on nothing. Vocals are an instrument in themselves, as not everyone can sing, and Kyo can, regardless of if you enjoy his vocal talents or not. Your opinion does not break his career, and there are many fans all over the world that love and admire Kyo's voice.
see what I said above. You compare songs like the Jealous piano mix where he whines, emphisizes his words, and screams like a wounded animal the whole song, to someone who trains themselves to be able to sing in tune with a piano, and be able to pick up music and sing in like that. It's insulting.You criticize opinions that disagree with your own,
You're doing that right now. It's also hypocricy to critisize me for something you yourself are in the act of doing. yet in this guild, few, if any other members of this guild would agree with your opinion.
And when did you take this survey? Like it or not, not everyone is obsessed with Kyo like you. Besides, I never said anything about people agreeing. o.0 Therefore, by your criticism of other guild members' opinions, you invite criticism of your own opinions.
I never said I didn't. It isn't often that you receive criticism for your own opinions,
How would you know? Like I said, you never talk to me outside this guild so you have no idea what goes on with me. more often you receive disagreements with your opinions,
right now you're critisizing AND disagreeing. but criticism of your opinions that your receive has been invited by you and your criticism of opinions expressed that disagree with yours.
Did I say it wasn't?? You state your opinions as fact, yet you don't try to prove them or even give the source of your opinions beyond your own word,
Actually I do try an prove my opinion with reason, it's just you may not want to hear it because often, it makes sense. Like when I said the song Mama is simple because it repeats the same 4 notes the whole song, or that I could go count 20 or more songs where they're all about the same thing. That is what I use to prove my points (or to coroborate what I think), Kyo's own works. Although I'm sure you don't like that I can prove what I think by just pointing out things that are in his works, which I'm sure you've never thought of as flawed before. so criticism of what you say is to be expected.
did I say it wasn't? If you said that you thought that someone said something, gave a logical reason and source of why you think they said that, and then stated that you would not agree with that statement if they had actually said it, then that would be acceptable.
As I recall, I said I heard it from someone, and if you go back some pages, I said I didn't know if it was true or not. Although it doesn't seem so far-fetched to me since a lot of people in Japan are racist (notice again I didn't say all). Instead, you state that things were said that you don't try to prove or give the source of why you think they were stated as though they were actually said, and then you state your own opinion as fact.
see what I said above, and I'd like you to find a quote of mine where I said my opinions were fact. Obviously if I think something, I'm going to believe in it. Just like if you said "Kyo is so talented" (which you did), I'd know this is just your opinion, but if I didn't know any better I could just say you're stating it as fact from the word "IS" and get offended as you are. But I don't do that. Opinions cannot be proven,
This is not always the case. therefore opinions are not fact, yet you seem to think that your opinions are fact, therefore suggesting that you think your opinions are better or more correct than other guild members' opinions.
see what I said above abotu stating opinions as factIf I've judged you, it is based on what I've seen in your posts.
see what I said about you ever talking to me outside the Kyo thread. And I don't like what I've seen in many of your posts.
Just because I say why I don't like Kyo in my posts If you don't want to be judged negatively, then don't give people reason to judge you negatively.
Not that I ever said anything about people judging me (although I would lke if people READ and understand what I'm trying t say before they judge what I think), but I think the ONLY reason you judge me negatively is because I don't like Kyo. And of course it offends you to see people not adoring him the way you do. It has to be me not liking Kyo because I don't really wtalk to you other than the Kyo thread, so that's the only thing you have to go on. Otherwise, allow the judgment that you receive without complaint.
Oh what, so it's not okay for defend my reasons now?
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