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 Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:45 pm
well, Polish Wolynska Cavalry Brigade stopped a German 4th Panzer Division in Battle at Mokra village in 1939, but it fought dismounted, in forest terrain and with armored train in support... On western front of WW1 cavalry became non-existent in trench war, but on the vast steppes of Poland and Russia it was used as mobile infantry well into 1940's until half-tracks allowed cross country transport (trucks were hopelessly tied to paved roads). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mokra - for the details of typical WW2 cavalry use
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:48 pm
Lt. Brookman Oh for frags sake.. The day some s**t game teaches youngsters history is a bad day indeed! Plus those minis are some of the worst and inaccurate I've seen in ages. The standard issue Russian rifle was the Mossin-Nagant, a five round bolt action rifle that partially won the war for the Russians the same way the Enfield did it for the British and the Garand did it for the Americans. If the Cossacks were traitors and fought for the Germans then they had K98 rifles. If you don't like the man on the horse you model the man onto a motorcycle or give him a jump pack that looks clunky as to best represent the "Fleet" special rule. I was refering to the russian cossacks before WWII. when they used single shot rifles and were fighting against poland and all that mess. I forget the actual dates and names, and I don't feel like looking it up right now. I know what weapons where used in WWII, perhaps I wasn't specific enough about what era I was talking about.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:26 pm
Father Joe According to Axis&Allies minis, thats a myth.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:16 pm
King Kento Father Joe According to Axis&Allies minis, thats a myth. Quit whinin' over a two cent donation.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:14 pm
Father Joe King Kento Father Joe According to Axis&Allies minis, thats a myth. Quit whinin' over a two cent donation.
NEVAR!
Anyways, I dont have much to contribute to this, as Im not a big WW buff. I do know their was cavalry, but these people are using dates and stuff. And your post was just there, asking for a response, pleading even.
I couldnt say no.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:03 pm
Nuclearwinter Lt. Brookman Oh for frags sake.. The day some s**t game teaches youngsters history is a bad day indeed! Plus those minis are some of the worst and inaccurate I've seen in ages. The standard issue Russian rifle was the Mossin-Nagant, a five round bolt action rifle that partially won the war for the Russians the same way the Enfield did it for the British and the Garand did it for the Americans. If the Cossacks were traitors and fought for the Germans then they had K98 rifles. If you don't like the man on the horse you model the man onto a motorcycle or give him a jump pack that looks clunky as to best represent the "Fleet" special rule. I was refering to the russian cossacks before WWII. when they used single shot rifles and were fighting against poland and all that mess. I forget the actual dates and names, and I don't feel like looking it up right now. I know what weapons where used in WWII, perhaps I wasn't specific enough about what era I was talking about. Cavalry was used extensively in Russian civil war of 1918-1920 and Russian-Polish war of 1919-1920, Mosin-Nagant was standard issue since 1891 in Russia, and Poles used mixture of Mauser 98s, Austrian Mannlichers, Russian Mosins and French Lebels... Tachankas were original idea of the era, a HMG mounted on horse carriage used as mobile firepower...
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:58 pm
Van Evok Nuclearwinter Lt. Brookman Oh for frags sake.. The day some s**t game teaches youngsters history is a bad day indeed! Plus those minis are some of the worst and inaccurate I've seen in ages. The standard issue Russian rifle was the Mossin-Nagant, a five round bolt action rifle that partially won the war for the Russians the same way the Enfield did it for the British and the Garand did it for the Americans. If the Cossacks were traitors and fought for the Germans then they had K98 rifles. If you don't like the man on the horse you model the man onto a motorcycle or give him a jump pack that looks clunky as to best represent the "Fleet" special rule. I was refering to the russian cossacks before WWII. when they used single shot rifles and were fighting against poland and all that mess. I forget the actual dates and names, and I don't feel like looking it up right now. I know what weapons where used in WWII, perhaps I wasn't specific enough about what era I was talking about. Cavalry was used extensively in Russian civil war of 1918-1920 and Russian-Polish war of 1919-1920, Mosin-Nagant was standard issue since 1891 in Russia, and Poles used mixture of Mauser 98s, Austrian Mannlichers, Russian Mosins and French Lebels... Tachankas were original idea of the era, a HMG mounted on horse carriage used as mobile firepower... I didn't know that, pardon my error. But again, I may be wrong, weren't the cossacks around way before those times as well?
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:37 pm
Cossacks as a society have been around since the 16th century, as a Russian cavalry unit, since atleast Napoleonic times. They've used varying weapons over time, opriginally being equipped with what could be considered a guardless saber.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:06 pm
i need help. I want some armageddon models, but they are only available through direct order, and 4.50 a pop at that. for one platoon of twenty men, not including the HQ, its 90$. plus shipping, and I dont think its even possible. is there a better deal that I'm missing, or are they just that damn expensive?
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:16 pm
they are metal, and archive models to boot... sorry to disappoint, but IG using anything but plastic Cadians or Catachans as basis is horribly costly in rl money
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:22 pm
Angstrom lord of all i need help. I want some armageddon models, but they are only available through direct order, and 4.50 a pop at that. for one platoon of twenty men, not including the HQ, its 90$. plus shipping, and I dont think its even possible. is there a better deal that I'm missing, or are they just that damn expensive? Hey, I dont' want to hear it, I collect Death Korps, so collecting that same twenty men costs me roughly $130 (£64). The best bet would be to try searching Ebay, or if in the off-chance someone wants to sell some at your local hobby store, jump on that. And just so everyone knows, the Polish charging the German tanks on horse is completely fictional. It was sort of like propoganda, saying "Look how stupid those Polish are, using horses when we ride in with tanks. Ha!" The use of calvary has been descending since the advent of rifled barrels, due to the accurate fire from infantry able to take out the calvary before they are able to get to the lines. The defensive warfare of WWI saw the extinction of calvary in the traditional sense, but mounted troops are still in use even today. For instance, special forces use horses when a rapid stealth entry is required.
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:09 pm
Xenos Mortium Angstrom lord of all i need help. I want some armageddon models, but they are only available through direct order, and 4.50 a pop at that. for one platoon of twenty men, not including the HQ, its 90$. plus shipping, and I dont think its even possible. is there a better deal that I'm missing, or are they just that damn expensive? Hey, I dont' want to hear it, I collect Death Korps, so collecting that same twenty men costs me roughly $130 (£64). The best bet would be to try searching Ebay, or if in the off-chance someone wants to sell some at your local hobby store, jump on that. And just so everyone knows, the Polish charging the German tanks on horse is completely fictional. It was sort of like propoganda, saying "Look how stupid those Polish are, using horses when we ride in with tanks. Ha!" The use of calvary has been descending since the advent of rifled barrels, due to the accurate fire from infantry able to take out the calvary before they are able to get to the lines. The defensive warfare of WWI saw the extinction of calvary in the traditional sense, but mounted troops are still in use even today. For instance, special forces use horses when a rapid stealth entry is required. Intresting stuff, I didn't know special forces still use em. Makes sense if a tank is too noisy. That would be a cool way for rough riders to work, give them infiltratre and give them the option to have some special weapons instead of those silly lances. Special forces or not, I'm pretty sure that they won't be charging in with a lance.
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:22 pm
Nuclearwinter Xenos Mortium Angstrom lord of all i need help. I want some armageddon models, but they are only available through direct order, and 4.50 a pop at that. for one platoon of twenty men, not including the HQ, its 90$. plus shipping, and I dont think its even possible. is there a better deal that I'm missing, or are they just that damn expensive? Hey, I dont' want to hear it, I collect Death Korps, so collecting that same twenty men costs me roughly $130 (£64). The best bet would be to try searching Ebay, or if in the off-chance someone wants to sell some at your local hobby store, jump on that. And just so everyone knows, the Polish charging the German tanks on horse is completely fictional. It was sort of like propoganda, saying "Look how stupid those Polish are, using horses when we ride in with tanks. Ha!" The use of calvary has been descending since the advent of rifled barrels, due to the accurate fire from infantry able to take out the calvary before they are able to get to the lines. The defensive warfare of WWI saw the extinction of calvary in the traditional sense, but mounted troops are still in use even today. For instance, special forces use horses when a rapid stealth entry is required. Intresting stuff, I didn't know special forces still use em. Makes sense if a tank is too noisy. That would be a cool way for rough riders to work, give them infiltratre and give them the option to have some special weapons instead of those silly lances. Special forces or not, I'm pretty sure that they won't be charging in with a lance. Well, the idea is that they have a shaped charge on the tip of their lance which they use to try and take out enemy armour or heavily armoured units, like Terminators. After that, they revert to gritty sword and pistol combat, often dying in the process. Also, if you didn't know, you can equipt your Rough Riders like that. There is nothing preventing you from ignoring the Lances altogether. The rules state that you can give them all shotguns if you like, and give up to two of them Special Weapons.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:57 pm
Xenos Mortium Nuclearwinter Xenos Mortium Angstrom lord of all i need help. I want some armageddon models, but they are only available through direct order, and 4.50 a pop at that. for one platoon of twenty men, not including the HQ, its 90$. plus shipping, and I dont think its even possible. is there a better deal that I'm missing, or are they just that damn expensive? Hey, I dont' want to hear it, I collect Death Korps, so collecting that same twenty men costs me roughly $130 (£64). The best bet would be to try searching Ebay, or if in the off-chance someone wants to sell some at your local hobby store, jump on that. And just so everyone knows, the Polish charging the German tanks on horse is completely fictional. It was sort of like propoganda, saying "Look how stupid those Polish are, using horses when we ride in with tanks. Ha!" The use of calvary has been descending since the advent of rifled barrels, due to the accurate fire from infantry able to take out the calvary before they are able to get to the lines. The defensive warfare of WWI saw the extinction of calvary in the traditional sense, but mounted troops are still in use even today. For instance, special forces use horses when a rapid stealth entry is required. Intresting stuff, I didn't know special forces still use em. Makes sense if a tank is too noisy. That would be a cool way for rough riders to work, give them infiltratre and give them the option to have some special weapons instead of those silly lances. Special forces or not, I'm pretty sure that they won't be charging in with a lance. Well, the idea is that they have a shaped charge on the tip of their lance which they use to try and take out enemy armour or heavily armoured units, like Terminators. After that, they revert to gritty sword and pistol combat, often dying in the process. Also, if you didn't know, you can equipt your Rough Riders like that. There is nothing preventing you from ignoring the Lances altogether. The rules state that you can give them all shotguns if you like, and give up to two of them Special Weapons. hmm... intresting. there ARE some pretty intresing combos with that setup. two plasma guns in a 5 man squad for only 60 points. they get the mobility to boot. same thing for melta bombs, or melta guns for that matter. intresting anti-tank/objective taking. The horse thing still bugs me, but perhaps I'll take a more posative look at them from now on. I'd LOVE to make some bike conversions but I really don't have the time or cash right now.
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:36 pm
Actually, now that I've seen the Death Korps to the Armageddon, I think I might get a platoon of them. but sadly, I dont know how much it costs in the US. sad
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