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nyaaaaaa we have to talk sometime ^^ Wanna test your Spanish xD *evil mode*


Nee Inai-suke... recent... thosep ics I'm tired of fighting with... xD I'll try to find better ones then!! Gimme 3 days!! biggrin

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lol but I wanna sue recent pics... it's just that the ones I have suck crying

well he said he like doesn't like black people or something. xd just because he didn't say anything ot mean doesn't me he isn't racist but I happened to be half black. If that's how he feels about people of my ethnicity just because of the color of our skin, I'm not too sure I like him.

@geo- yes, well I've only seen him play a little bit of bass and I only heard he plays some guitar. Obviously he's not very good at rading in writing music. Henc he sticks to vocals, and cheesy, repetitive lyrics.

although I like how Inai is ignoring my post because I used her own words against her and now she looks like a hypocrit. 3nodding

although it is still rude and hypocritic to not even bother to talk to someone or base your judgement on them by something they don't like that you do, and you have no idea what else they may like or dislike or what kind of personality they have. Even though you said yourself not to behave how you are. Maybe if Inai would just TALK to me outside of the Kyo thread she wouldn't hate me as much?

I quit with this opinion thing. You have the same mentality of people who would say poop smells nice. No matter how positive you are it doesn' yuo just can't convince them otherwise, once they've decided they like something. Although it's true Kyo isn't very affluent at guitar or readin/writing music, especially as any of his fellow band mates.

Inai is ignoring your post because she said she really doesn't care what you have to say.

But since you're so stubborn as to feel the need to see a reply from me for whatever reason, I'll give you one. And I won't hold back my words.

First of all, "generalization" only applies to two or more, usually more people. Generalization refers to a group of people, which you are not. Therefore, I believe that the word you were looking for was judging. Yes, I've judged you. I've judged you based on what I've seen. It's not that you dislike Kyo. It's that you have such blantant disrespect and rudeness. It's that you continue to repeat yourself, that your posts make little to no sense, are full of typos and misused words, and are generally hard to understand. It's that you make assumptions based on things you can't or won't prove, or even so much as give the source of your supposed information. I've asked you several times where you've gotten the information you claim to have that Kyo doesn't like black people, and not once have you responded with any sensible or provable claims. You are free to have your own opinion. But your choice of words and lack of sensible reason as to why you dislike Kyo is what I dislike. The words "talentless a**" use no respect, or even tact. That's what I don't like about you, or your posts. I've tried being civil with you, and when you haven't been so rude, I have been civil, even if I've disagreed. Disagreement, however you may see it, is not a crime. You are allowed to have your opinion, as I am allowed to have mine. My opinion, however, is worded with some regard for decency.

You speak of racism as though it is so bad. I don't like racism, but your earlier generalization, where you stated that all Japanese people are racist, is racism in itself. You speak of an entire race with one negative opinion you applied to every Japanese person - that is racism. You may not see that as hypocricy or racism, but it is both. If you hate racism so much as you claim to, then why do you state racist comments? Is it because you aren't Japanese, therefore it doesn't hurt you? Racism is racism, regardless of who it is targeted toward.

Talent is in the opinion of the person viewing or hearing the talent. Kyo's vocal talent amazes me - his voice can vary so much and so quickly, from his screams to his beautiful singing to the pain his voice sometimes holds when he sings to the other amazing things he can do with his voice. I see that as talent, and you don't have to state a hundred times that you don't think it's talent - your opinion is known, just disagreed with. I remember that when you were disagreed with, you acted as though those disagreeing with you were being cruel to you. We simply stated our own opinions, after you stated yours. Our opinions disagreed with each other, but they were our own opinions. If you want people to view your opinion as lacking venom, don't say it in such a rude way. When we stated our opinions, we stated them in a normal way, pointing out what we liked about Kyo's voice and lyrics, yet you claimed that we were being cruel just because we disagreed with you. Yet you don't expect to be viewed as tactless and cruel, when you state your opinions as you do? Kyo's lyrics are something that not everyone can understand. On the surface, they may seem simple, if you don't understand them. There are hidden meanings and depth to the lyrics that most other writers don't use. One song can have layer upon layer of meanings and suggested meanings, which you may not see, but many members of this guild can see. If your lack of understanding leads you to think that Kyo has no lyrical talent, then that is not our fault, but you have no right to criticize us for liking Kyo's lyrics. You may try to argue that the hidden meanings and layers in Kyo's lyrics aren't there, but they are, even if you are incapable of seeing them. Kyo sticks to vocals because he is a vocalist, and he considers his voice to be the means of expression of his lyrics. He can do with his own voice whatever he thinks fits the lyrics that he wrote, and he would not want to leave the expression of his lyrics up to anyone but himself. If Kyo attempted to play or learn to play an instrument, he could do it, but that is not what he has chosen to do, and you have no right to criticize him for his choice of profession. Some people prefer to be vocalists over being guitarists, drummers, bassists, or players of other instruments, and that is their choice. Vocals are an instrument in themselves, as not everyone can sing, and Kyo can, regardless of if you enjoy his vocal talents or not. Your opinion does not break his career, and there are many fans all over the world that love and admire Kyo's voice.

You criticize opinions that disagree with your own, yet in this guild, few, if any other members of this guild would agree with your opinion. Therefore, by your criticism of other guild members' opinions, you invite criticism of your own opinions. It isn't often that you receive criticism for your own opinions, more often you receive disagreements with your opinions, but criticism of your opinions that your receive has been invited by you and your criticism of opinions expressed that disagree with yours. You state your opinions as fact, yet you don't try to prove them or even give the source of your opinions beyond your own word, so criticism of what you say is to be expected. If you said that you thought that someone said something, gave a logical reason and source of why you think they said that, and then stated that you would not agree with that statement if they had actually said it, then that would be acceptable. Instead, you state that things were said that you don't try to prove or give the source of why you think they were stated as though they were actually said, and then you state your own opinion as fact. Opinions cannot be proven, therefore opinions are not fact, yet you seem to think that your opinions are fact, therefore suggesting that you think your opinions are better or more correct than other guild members' opinions.

If I've judged you, it is based on what I've seen in your posts. And I don't like what I've seen in many of your posts. If you don't want to be judged negatively, then don't give people reason to judge you negatively. Otherwise, allow the judgment that you receive without complaint.

wow Inai, uber long post.
Namida, what she is saying it mostly or 100% true, you are almost bringing this on yourself, I suggest you just let it go, before you all slaughter each other.
This agrument has been going on for months now, and I'm just sick of it. When ever the small chance I get to come here when I'm not occupied, it seems you're always disagreeing with someone, and now one is focusing on the main topic that should be talked about instead of this mindless banter. Its getting really old and everyone is sick of it.
Just leave your s**t at the door please, for everyones including your own sake, b/c I know you don't want to be hated, no one does