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 Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:23 pm
badtzmaru So, I was thinking... In order to convince everyone that Ton is the real cop, maybe we can have someone volunteer to have his/her role investigated. If the doctor protects him today, then he can investigate the volunteer tomorrow and PM him/her his findings, and the volunteer can tell everyone if he got it right or not. I don't want the mafia to know who else Ton investigated/s other than me, but if this will convince everyone maybe it's worth the risk. I did say that Ton would investigate the volunteer tomorrow, though. And I didn't want the mafia to know that we found out Allegro was a townie. But I guess we can't use this plan anymore though, huh? confused And I don't wanna be a martyr anymore if it's not going to prove anything. stressed
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:31 pm
So basically we have about no plans or leads at all XD And I'll go to bed now. Good night.
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:48 pm
Good night. emo
So if you guys haven't noticed, I've been asking people if we could investigate them to see their responses, but that failed too because the mafia obviously had already planned on blocking Ton. =_=;; sigh
...I change my mind about Amber. eek ;; I don't trust her anymore because of her lack of reaction/opinion to Hobo's plan. (However, Zephyr's and Weasel's reactions to Hobo's plan assures me that they're not working with her.) And thanks to Allegro, I do see the flaws in Hobo's plan now. If Amber really is part of the mafia and they got rid of me, my being a vanilla would've protected Amber as well as Ton. eek So sneaky!!
My finger is still on Hobo. wahmbulance
I'm curious about who you guys honestly suspect of being the mafia?
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:04 pm
Im not Mafia,
im not going to get upset at the plan because it really didn't mean i would die, i even offered to let you guys investigate me to prove im a townie what more do you want
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:14 pm
Well, the invitation to be investigated doesn't prove anything anymore because the mafia will most likely roleblock Ton tomorrow. confused
You didn't have to disagree with Hobo's plan, but some kind of opinion (even a "okay, let's try it") would've been helpful to let us know what you thought about it. But you didn't even acknowledge her plan... It's almost as if you already knew about it. ninja
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:24 pm
Gyaaaad, still so damn confused. Like... trust = nonexistant. XD
However, when roleblocking Ton seems like a good idea, it is just one idea. And, well... the mafia seems to be more about random and stuff that's not expected, it seems. I mean, they killed Kath out of the blue. XD
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:33 pm
sora4126 Gyaaaad, still so damn confused. Like... trust = nonexistant. XD However, when roleblocking Ton seems like a good idea, it is just one idea. And, well... the mafia seems to be more about random and stuff that's not expected, it seems. I mean, they killed Kath out of the blue. XD The mafia could also roleblock doctor(If they know who it is) and kill me when I'm not protected. Not much can be done.
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:21 pm
Yeah, Ton investigated me, and I turned up as one of the Friends. Which is cool, cause that's role I was assigned.
Badtz was initially suspicious of me because I accidentally PMed her instead of my intended friend (who shall, for safety's sake, remain nameless). She thought it might have been a mafia ploy to get in on her side (which would be silly, I don't ever intentionally meta-game). Likewise, her contacting me about Ton's investigation was something that stuck in my craw, because I couldn't see why I'd been investigated.
However, water under the bridge. I'm trying not to take too firm a grasp of the pace of the game, as I am wont to, but we need to come up with a solid suspect list if we expect to win this. We need to vote someone off tonight, have our doctor protect Ton, and have our vig strike. That's the only way we have a positive outcome tomorrow: The mafia would have to strike at Amber, or try to roleblock the Doctor, whomever that may be (so please don't reveal yourself.)
My Suspects:
Hobo
Sora
Amber
Weasel
Bari
ZK
in that order.
Which is, yes, EVERYONE, except me, Ton and Badtz (whom, if they're pretending to be innocents, deserve to win for forging PMs). I've even included whomever my friend might be, JUST TO THROW YOU OFF, MWAHAHAHAHA
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:37 pm
they may not block the doctor they could block me, or block the doctor and kill me that's what i figure
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:48 pm
If they do kill you, then they still can't kill Ton cause the Doc's protecting him. If they don't kill you and just block you, The doc intervenes again. It doesn't matter if they block the doc and kill you. No offense, but while your (alleged) kill ability is the biggest CURRENT threat to the mafia, Ton's is the better ability to have in the long run.
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:17 pm
badtzmaru And thanks to Allegro, I do see the flaws in Hobo's plan now. If Amber really is part of the mafia and they got rid of me, my being a vanilla would've protected Amber as well as Ton. eek So sneaky!!
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:44 pm
I dunno why LPS still hasn't updated the first page's role descriptions, but here it is officially: Hobo Scruffy badtzmaru And thanks to Allegro, I do see the flaws in Hobo's plan now. If Amber really is part of the mafia and they got rid of me, my being a vanilla would've protected Amber as well as Ton. eek So sneaky!! Yes, I did in that statement. Would it have made more sense if I worded that as "Ton as well as Amber"? xd But OMG, you guys are going to hate me but now I'm starting to doubt Ton and Allegro after going through my PMs again. >_<;;;; I'm wondering again if they really are working together to deceive me. crying Even though I'm not 100% sure Ton is the cop, I trusted he was because: he got my role right (but he didn't specify vanilla townie)
he got Allegro's role right (but maybe they're working together!! crying )
he roleclaimed (i guess it is possible that the real cop won't speak up in public. gonk )
he agreed to my plan on proving him to be the cop (but we all know now that it'll fail sweatdrop ) And I trusted Allegro only because I trusted Ton.
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:46 pm
Since everything I know is out in the open, I'll share the PMs I received and let you guys determine if Ton and Allegro are telling the truth yourselves. (You better be thankful, because this took a lot of work--quoting and timestamping--and I even had to edit in codes because some quotes were too deep and broke off. =_=) Allegro (Sep 28, 2010 11:17 pm) badtzmaru (Sep 28, 2010 11:11 pm) Allegro (Sep 28, 2010 11:07 pm) badtzmaru (Sep 28, 2010 10:58 pm) Allegro (Sep 28, 2010 10:56 pm) PM Subject: Hey there!So, I'm sure you've already noticed, but we're the Friends role in this Mafia game. Ha! Nice try!! ninja Haha. Anyways, more than likely I'll be dead night 1. But I'm still available as a resource for advice, and I look forward to working with you! I'm not sure how to respond to your messages in case you're part of the mafia... @_@ Rofl. badtzmaru (Sep 28, 2010 11:22 pm) Allegro (Sep 28, 2010 11:19 pm) PM Subject: Disregard that. razz Sent those to the wrong person. ...I see. ninja As you can see, I was suspicious of Allegro, especially because he seemed unfazed about making the mistake. What if I had been part of the mafia?! confused wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance badtzmaru (Oct 01, 2010 8:21 am) Tonberry Crunch (Sep 30, 2010 7:05 pm) PM Subject: AllianceI know that you're a townie, I know this cuz I'm a cop. I need someone I can give my results to in trust. Oh yay! biggrin I'm just a normal townie with no friends. [cut out allegro's pm from above]o_oa I really couldn't tell if he was telling the truth or if he's a mafia and was trying to trick me. So if I died today, you know who to suspect. ninja I shouldn't have been so quick to trust him. emo wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance badtzmaru (Oct 03, 2010 2:37 pm) Tonberry Crunch (Oct 03, 2010 12:13 pm) badtzmaru (Oct 03, 2010 10:39 am) PM Subject: Re: AllianceHey, can you investigate Allegro the next day? I really wanna know if he was telling the truth (about the friends mix-up) or not. @_@a Already investigated him. He is a "friend" That's all I was told. Then why haven't you told him I'm a townie yet? He's really grilling me in the topic now. sweatdrop I'll just go ahead and PM him myself then. You know... Now I'm suspicious of why Ton never contacted Allegro after finding out he was a "friend." confused Why would Ton only contact me and not Allegro for the Alliance? badtzmaru (Oct 03, 2010 2:42 pm) PM Subject: Re: Disregard that.Hey, so Tonberry told me that you really are a friend. neutral Did he contact you? He should've told both of us that we're on the same side. u_u Sorry for not believing you. xd I just found it very hard to believe that you mixed me up with your real friend. confused Well anyway, who's your friend? Ignored. sweatdrop wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance Tonberry Crunch (Oct 03, 2010 8:58 pm) badtzmaru (Oct 03, 2010 8:57 pm) Tonberry Crunch (Oct 03, 2010 6:09 pm) badtzmaru (Oct 03, 2010 6:08 pm) Tonberry Crunch (Oct 03, 2010 6:02 pm) badtzmaru (Oct 03, 2010 6:00 pm) Wrote: Re: AllianceThanks for your post, but I hope it wasn't too obvious! :shock:
Did Allegro tell you who his friend is? No. I investigated him, not asked him :/ I'm just given there role when I investigate. *Sigh* My post will bring me Mafia heat, but hopefully drop heat off of you. Oh, you didn't contact him?! eek Because I told him that you told me he was a friend. @_@a Well, it should be okay since we're all town... You didn't have to do that! D: I would've told everyone I was contacted by the cop if they all started voting for me. Hopefully the mafia will think you're my friend instead of the cop. DX ...s**t. Then I shouldn't have been heroic to defend you XD XDD Sorry I kept arguing with Allegro. He read my PM, but never replied. =_= Well, hopefully the doctor is active and contacts you. If s/he does, tell him/her to keep protecting you every night so you can uncover everyone's roles. Alright then. I was wondering why Ton sacrificed himself for me too, but just passed it off as a kind act to save me. wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance badtzmaru (Oct 04, 2010 11:41 am) Allegro (Oct 04, 2010 11:36 am) badtzmaru (Oct 04, 2010 11:34 am) Allegro (Oct 04, 2010 11:29 am) badtzmaru (Oct 04, 2010 11:25 am) badtzmaru (Oct 04, 2010 11:19 am) Wrote: lol lion kingWhy didn't you reply to my last PM? >_o
Did Tonberry contact you yet? Who is your friend? o_< All 4 of us should work together now.
[cut out ton's pms from above]
At first, I thought you and Ton were mafia and trying to trick me, but I trust Ton now that he roleclaimed in the topic, so that means I trust you, too. Was the friend mix-up intentional, though? >_o Allegro (Oct 04, 2010 11:22 am) Wrote:On a gut level, I believe you. But, let's say if you are telling the truth, a mafia member contacts you, with a believable cover. I wouldn't get mad at you for revealing my identity, but I'd prefer to keep my partner's identity a secret at this time, for safety's sake. If someone contacted me, I would contact you guys first to discuss who s/he could be. u_u I won't make any hasty decisions without contacting you 2 first. I was thinking, maybe we can have someone volunteer for Ton to investigate the next day to prove his role. Would it be dangerous if I revealed that plan to the public? @_@a We could always try a feint. Say in the thread that we've been in contact with the Doctor, and that Ton will be safe. Which means I'll probably go down tonight. But, them's the breaks. I don't really know about that plan... Since you really are town, we can't lose you, and if the doctor reads that we 'found' him/her, then s/he'll not trust us because we're lying. What does "them's the breaks" mean? @_@a Them's the breaks: That's the way it goes. And the point is to throw the mafia off the trail of Ton. If they believe that the Doctor is protecting him, that means they focus elsewhere. Well, what I'm hoping is that the real doctor really will protect Ton. confused If we extend the day until everyone posts, then we'll know that the doctor knows Ton is the cop and hopefully will make the right decision to protect him. I think s/he should protect him every night. What I hope is for the doctor to contact us first. >_< Then we can plan for Ton to be protected and maybe pretend that we didn't find the doctor so the mafia can waste a kill on Ton. @_@ Tonberry Crunch (Oct 04, 2010 3:37 pm) badtzmaru (Oct 04, 2010 3:36 pm) Tonberry Crunch (Oct 04, 2010 3:33 pm) badtzmaru (Oct 04, 2010 3:31 pm) PM Subject: o_o ninja So I was telling Allegro maybe we can ask for a volunteer in the topic to have his/her role investigated by you, to prove once and for all that you're the real cop. We don't have to reveal the role to everyone, but that person would tell everyone that you got it right and hopefully that will convince everyone. Do you think it'd be okay to do that in public? Allegro doesn't want to tell us who his friend is yet, but I think he will soon. Any other thoughts? Day 1 I investigated you, day 2 Allegro. I don't think I can use it again until next day. Oh yeah, I mean considering that the doctor will protect you today. Do you think it'd be safe to plan it in public? If I were to be protected, then it should be fine. I sent this PM to Allegro too, but he didn't participate. neutral Townies, help meeee. crying
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:05 pm
Allegro's post makes me believe he's town, though... crying I don't understand some parts of it, though: Allegro something that stuck in my craw as I am wont to If Ton really isn't the cop, then the real cop: please speak up now or I'm just going to keep trusting Ton/Allegro. crying
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:07 pm
Allegro My Suspects: Hobo Sora Amber Weasel Bari ZK in that order. What made you put Weasel so far down on your list now? neutral I thought she was your prime suspect. (My list is similar to yours, though.)
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