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Also Sun...what Hael said.

I'm all for civility but you cannot have progression and evolution without discourse and problems.

It's part of the course.

ThunderTyrant said it best a while back amongst the many conversations I have had with. I'm paraphrasing but "Hosting a tournament is civil service. You are working for the people and as such the people have a right to tell you if they think you are doing a poor job of it."

The decisions Hero, Yummy and Zant make based on us telling "Hey...you ******** up!" is their's to make as individuals but we should not let that fear stop us from making our voices heard if we are "having a bad time..."

Like, something happens that someone doesn't like, and they can't stop bitching about it...

Like, when your girl says not on her face and you do it anyway, and she just can't get over it.

I'm all for it.

Exceeeept...if the discourse becomes counterproductive. I don't think you need to live in fear of them over-reacting as they did. That's as much their fault as it's the fault of everybody who decided that their issue had to be the only topic of discussion in this thread for pages and pages.

They've clearly admitted that they're new to this, and that they're learning as they go along. So if you want to help them I say do it, but maybe instead of ranting and mocking them, you can send them a PM and tell them your idea for how they can fix it.

After that, what else is there to do? Saying it over and over again just gets abusive after a while. I had a complaint about my last fight. I PMed Hero once, stated my grievance once in this thread when asked, and then gave it up for a lost cause. I could have gotten my way by making a huge stink of it, but why bother? It's not fun.

I think a few of the people who complain about something over and over and over do it more to hear themselves talk than to enact any real solution. Perhaps to them, complaining is fun.

Yeah, pretty much. It's like you as a human being and as a content creator have the right to do whatever you want. Always.

But if a problem like this emerges again next round or the round after that, I'm gonna bring up this same topic every single time.

Why? Because you had the opportunity to address it now, and chose to shut your ears because the whole matter annoyed you.

In the end, it's just gonna make your (and this is a general "you") job harder and wind up exploding. Kinda like if a little kid runs on his elbows, and I'm like "..you do know there's way better ways of covering this distance, right?" And the kid gets super angry and grunts "Shut up! It's my body, stop whining! I'll do what I want, I'm doing this to grab you lemonade!"

I kinda shrug. Then he falls over on his face and starts crying.

I'm not gonna go "...he's getting me lemonade.. what a noble child.. his plight.."

I'm gonna go "Hey dumbass, thought about walking on your feet yet?" And if he threatens to not get me lemonade.. ******** 'im. I'll buy me some Dr. Pepper. Or make home-made drink, as I oft have.

Later, as I drift by, I watch this kid fall on his face. "Hey kid. Feet. Use them." He gets teary eyed and yells "STOP REPEATING YOURSELF, I'VE MADE MY (sniff snort) DECISION, I WILL NOT HEED YOUR WORDS YOU DERISIVE TROLL"

I'm probably gonna snicker and go "f**." And then walk my merry way until the next time I see him fall, in which case - you bet ya - I'm gonna point out he's not using his feet. I will stop pointing it out when either he uses his feet, or proves to me walking on his elbows like a psuedo-retarded Spider Man is more effective, which so far he has failed to do spectacularly.

Next time, make the b***h swallow it all.

I'm glad. The redemption round seems like a great way to please the people who had issues and fix any mistakes you might have made.

what's the difference in PM'ing you an idea and discussing it openly?

It should yield the same result. You either like it and go with or you don't and leave it.

It's up to you to cipher through the bullshit...just like we have to cipher through the bullshit.

Plus this is a small dedicated group. If I have an idea or complaint and it's not founded. You might not even have to be the one to say anything to me. Another could step and explain the folly of my ways and save you the time.

The only thing a PM saves you from is global embarrassment which ...let's be honest here you shouldn't feel to begin with.

PM or openly isn't the issue. But you have to personally message me to make sure I see it.

I told you guys I don't back read the OOC, so if I don't have a quote or a message from you about something, I can miss it, and will not go back to dig it up.

PM might stand for Private Message, however, that doesn't mean you sending me something that was isn't liable to be seen publicly.