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Designated Hero

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:27 pm


Kalar Meadia
is like a Brittish soldier calling the American Gorilla tactics cheap
Far be it from me to unintentionally ruin the validity of your post by pointing this out but the imagery this provokes is beyond hilarious.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:55 pm


I lolled.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:01 pm


lol Kalar has a tendency to make some misspellings, so don't put it against him.

*nudges Kalar* It's "Guerrilla." xp
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:35 pm


Gyros are the best, yum.

After candy though, butt that was a given.

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The Thunder Tyrant

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:39 pm


That's not really what I was getting at. All I was pointing out was that people like to play "jack of all trades" characters who can do practically everything under the sun, and ontop of that somehow MATCH characters that are supposed to be specialists. John Doe can fight with a sword, cast magic, use a sniper rifle, and make weapons, and he can do it better than the swordsman, than the mage, than the sniper, and the blacksmith. THAT was what I was getting at, and was the crux of my entire point.

Can people play the specialist role. Probably, I don't know. I don't run around taking surveys of people's roleplaying ability. I'm just pointing out the concept that people seem to fail to understand, which is "Jack of all trades, master of none." The problem is the lack of application of the last portion, and has nothing to do with the evolution of characters, nor people's ability to play a specialist role. It's just "This is being applied improperly."

I'm not talking about the mix of melee and magic or anything else, either. My character fights with powers and melee. Again, just talking about how these "Jack of all Trades" characters are surreptitiously masters of all their trades, which makes them somewhat Mary Sue ish.

Which, of course, was tying into my next point, which had to do with the idea of a "protagonist complex" that often goes hand in hand with the "master of all trades" characters, in that the character is portrayed as being able to do everything perfectly, and be a match in every regard to every opponent or obstacle. That was my point, that these two things (master of all trades and the protagonist complex) are bad for roleplaying, because they push out other types of characters and moreover don't show any respect to the abilities of other characters.

I wasn't really talking about anything else beyond that.

EDIT:: I mean, I don't agree or disagree with your post, exactly, I'm just not sure where it ties into mind beyond a baseline "you mentioned specialist/versatility once." There's not a whole lot else in common between the posts XD
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:40 pm


Lollipop Fiend
Gyros are the best, yum.

After candy though, butt that was a given.


Gyros are, in fact, beastly.

Need to go to this Greek place in the same city as my college. Heard they have good ones.

But I can never pronounce Gyro right >_>

The Thunder Tyrant


Dear Princess Molestia

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:43 pm


Well, I pronounce it like "Euro". I don't care if it's right or wrong, but I feel stupid if I say gyro like gyro. wtf
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:46 pm


*Wikis it.*

Giro. Gee-row/gi-row apparently.

The Thunder Tyrant


Dear Princess Molestia

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:56 pm


The only downfall is how messy cucumber sauce can be.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:24 pm


Cucumber sauce is for pansies.

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Designated Hero

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:10 pm


Wiki is silly.

It's pronounce year-o. Says the greek guy that runs the local gyro place.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:20 pm


Someone else I talked to said THEIR local gyro place pronounced it gee-row in their commercial.

"I want a gyro!" "It's not gyro, it's gee-row!"

The Thunder Tyrant


Designated Hero

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:22 pm


Well what the hell.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:32 pm


I missed interesting discussion while punching my mobo and being badass. Darn.

I've met characters who could utilize every single element in conception - I've met some who do so as though they are gods in each and every element in such absurd manners that it was like I was fightin' a mobile artillery base, and I've met those who can balance it right. The important thing to remember is: there's never really a "rule of thumb" for character balance. Every situation's different, with the exception of the grossly and absurdly over-powered characters, like those that can clash two dimensions together in the palms of their hands and fire the aftermath at you.

As for the "protagonist" complex, I'm not so much against that? Long as the roleplayer realizes: on a "who can/will progress" spectrum, they're no better/worse than the other folks there until proven otherwise. That applies in and out of character, and it's something I've seen ruin a number of folks, from upstarts who could grow into being better writers, to vets who just get too damned "My d**k is 20 feet long"-esque. Not that I don't brag, I make a point to time to time - but I do it when I've done something worth bragging of, not "My character has appeared. (FAN FARE)"

If people could get over that mentality, they'd see these kinda competition roleplays are basically the PvP of roleplaying: there's things that go unchecked in pure storyline roleplaying that just won't mesh well here. Am I saying you can't do the super cool/badass thing you saw in (x) media? Nah. But I am saying you have to be willing to study up on it enough to have a decent grasp of how it operates, its shortcomings, whether it's balanced for the place at hand, and how your character would put a spin on it.

My bitching about Takamura aside, I'm sure he's a relatively nice guy and he probably could with some polishing, become a half-decent or above roleplayer. But, he's a good example: the problem is, he basically did this..

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..with Kenshin Himura. Which, if that was the intention, would be okay. However, he passes it off like an original character. And unfortunately, while Takamura the character does operate differently than .. the .. other Battousai, the sheath-play wasn't developed very well or utilized efficiently. Fundamental roleplaying issues aside, my biggest qualm was that I got more "character" out of Takamura the roleplayer than Takamura the character - it felt like I was fighting a soulless clone of Kenshin Himura who apparently mastered the Pendulum Step to eerie, newly found degrees.

Point being: his character in concept could be a great defensive swordsman, as well as a good guy to use when breaching the general area around an opponent. A reactionary fighter. Instead, his character was able to swing a blade and part fire like Moses & the Red Sea (with no actual ability to back this up - he simply swung his sword and insert Rurouni Kenshin style wind-wave here), he was able to dodge/strafe/out-maneuver anything and everything done to him or even potentially done to him (not even in specified directions which is damned important to close-range fighting) - basically, he as a roleplayer got too caught up in a "I'm going to win without fail, see you guys next round" attitude from post one, with the line:


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This would allow him to accelerate the blade out of it's sheath to strike his opponent with lightning speed, it would be over quickly.


.. rather than "I want to win, here's how I'll aspire to do so" take. When it's the former and not the latter, s**t always turns nasty, regardless of character design.

Frankly, based off that, he really shouldnt've made it as far as he has [except he was paired against an equally inept roleplayer Round I, the b*****d]. Before we can point fingers at character design and balance, first must we address critical errors with a roleplayer's approach; it's as important for a puppet to be fine-tuned as it is for the puppeteer to wind their strings about properly.

As for "Jack of All Trade" characters once again, I find folks who decide to be "THE ONE" at everything end up getting in over their heads thinking they're a master at everything when they unfortunately aren't, and they ******** up somewhere down the line. Long as you watch for those moments, which almost always happen, you as a 'specialist' should be golden.

Take a famous example: good 'ol Ertai.


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The Haelstrom Fist


Dear Princess Molestia

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:39 pm


The Gyro place around here pronounces it like gyro in their commercial, but that's because all of their customers talk like that too.
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