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Ro Mayvine

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:23 pm


wolf4life13
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You have lost two in the past couple days, but you also have a large amount of inactive members and almost half of your crew are absentees. You have trouble attracting new members and your existing members are trying to work around a story line that you want to make all important that only involves a few people. You have an ever changing world that is near impossible to understand because it seems to change on a whim with little to no explanation.

You do what you like.
I was just making suggestions.
But you also have a host of ridiculous rules that inhibit rather than protect your roleplayers.
I think that you have more problems than you realize.


This seems accurate on some counts, one deceptive thing about the guild is that so many people have multiple characters so it often seems more active than it truly is but also loosing just one person for any length of time can mean loosing 2 or more characters that may have been needed by others for their RP's. Really if you look at it, the top 10 characters position or strength wise probably belong to three or four people. If I am exaggerating it isn't by much. My point is really just that suggestions for how to get and retain new members should be considered carefully and not simply dismissed because one aspect of them doesn't work. Pool the suggestion and take the best points to improve the guild then just discard the worst.
A good example of this is Neko/Isis, with her gone, Osiris lost it's ruler, Luray lost a captain and possibly one of the Sins will be inactive unless Fenrir starts controlling her.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:31 pm


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Alright, because I'm a d**k, I'd like to bring attention to this one thing.

In the "Children of the Spire" profile forum, Cain's profile states that his gunslinger gains a speed boost from both Assassin, and Gunslinger (His original class.), when the Sub-Class thingie states that you gain no benefit from the sub-class.

Snuff that Muffin
At Expert rank, you may take on a second class. In this class, you may only learn up to C ranked in this class, and do not gain any of the class benefits. You may only choose a class in any category you find your class in.


thank you for bringing this to my attention, I'll lay down the law


and meh, never really liked Rarity....far too vain for my tastes


I got a question about that. It says you can't claim any class benefits so does that include the not so great benefits as well? For example if my subclass is necromancer then will I be harmed by healing magic?


no, subclassing is skills only...
if you subclass as a mage, you dont get the x2 energy, but you get the mage skills up to C-rank

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:35 pm


Well mind you, I'm still learning and discovering.
But the rule where players aren't allowed to band together because they are afraid they will try to overpower single players.
I think players deserve the right to work together and a good player knows better than to take advantage of a situation and perform any kind of actual godmodding.
Or now that all nations but one have been closed to new members.
What if someone had a story arc in mind?
Especially with the rule that lower ranks aren't allowed to travel between nations.
These rules don't seem to have much point, but they interfere with a writers ability to craft an interesting story.
At least I know that personally all of these rules have inhibited me from what I wanted to write.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:40 pm


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Well mind you, I'm still learning and discovering.
But the rule where players aren't allowed to band together because they are afraid they will try to overpower single players.
I think players deserve the right to work together and a good player knows better than to take advantage of a situation and perform any kind of actual godmodding.
Or now that all nations of one have been closed to new members.
What if someone had a story arc in mind?
Especially with the rule that lower ranks aren't allowed to travel between nations.
These rules don't seem to have much point, but they interfere with a writers ability to craft an interesting story.
At least I know that personally all of these rules have inhibited me from what I wanted to write.


We've actually phased out a couple of those rules. I think only trainees aren't allowed to leave the nation now and there are still fights where players work against someone. If it was still up, you could have looked in the Nevan Gates thread at all the people going against Fenrir. Though I think you might be thinking of the rule where the two characters belong to the same player...

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Ro Mayvine

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:46 pm


Fenrir closed everything because of a lack of support for new characters.
There's literally no one around who can act as a trainer in both Pronta and Luray, and Osiris is now down to one person. I'm sure why the Spire is closed, but I can understand why no one is aloud to start as a Solo Rogue at the moment.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:55 pm


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Fenrir closed everything because of a lack of support for new characters.
There's literally no one around who can act as a trainer in both Pronta and Luray, and Osiris is now down to one person. I'm sure why the Spire is closed, but I can understand why no one is aloud to start as a Solo Rogue at the moment.

Actually, I closed The Spire so the other normal nations could get more members. And yeah, the solo rouges are closed to stop so many of them. But once we get things cleaned up, I might open the Spire again.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:00 pm


SorceressJacklyn
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Fenrir closed everything because of a lack of support for new characters.
There's literally no one around who can act as a trainer in both Pronta and Luray, and Osiris is now down to one person. I'm sure why the Spire is closed, but I can understand why no one is aloud to start as a Solo Rogue at the moment.

Actually, I closed The Spire so the other normal nations could get more members. And yeah, the solo rouges are closed to stop so many of them. But once we get things cleaned up, I might open the Spire again.
Actually when you think about it, the Spire is now a normal nation.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:04 pm


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SorceressJacklyn
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Fenrir closed everything because of a lack of support for new characters.
There's literally no one around who can act as a trainer in both Pronta and Luray, and Osiris is now down to one person. I'm sure why the Spire is closed, but I can understand why no one is aloud to start as a Solo Rogue at the moment.

Actually, I closed The Spire so the other normal nations could get more members. And yeah, the solo rouges are closed to stop so many of them. But once we get things cleaned up, I might open the Spire again.
Actually when you think about it, the Spire is now a normal nation.

Actually, that's why The Spire is called Faction of The Spire on the profile thread. The crew decided to finally declare it as a self-contained nation. But since it has no land of its own, it's just being called a Faction.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:04 pm


The Talented Fool
Fenrir closed everything because of a lack of support for new characters.
There's literally no one around who can act as a trainer in both Pronta and Luray, and Osiris is now down to one person. I'm sure why the Spire is closed, but I can understand why no one is aloud to start as a Solo Rogue at the moment.


s**t, is it that bad? I can have Azrael return to Pronta if it's needed. He's a rogue but because he vanished.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:11 pm


Exquisite Entropy
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Fenrir closed everything because of a lack of support for new characters.
There's literally no one around who can act as a trainer in both Pronta and Luray, and Osiris is now down to one person. I'm sure why the Spire is closed, but I can understand why no one is aloud to start as a Solo Rogue at the moment.


s**t, is it that bad? I can have Azrael return to Pronta if it's needed. He's a rogue but because he vanished.
Seems that way, Urban might be on vacation from Axiom, haven't seen a post from him in a while, and Haruki took Feather and Pix with him for his Dark Ascent to Madness quest.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:16 pm


Hello, guys. I'm gonna need something new for Jasper to do. I don't plan on having my activity with him waver because one person left. :/
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:18 pm


Hiro_Uzaki
Hello, guys. I'm gonna need something new for Jasper to do. I don't plan on having my activity with him waver because one person left. :/

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Go to Pronta or Luray and start training the new people! We have no one around who can train them, and my rogue Prontan isn't nearly ready to return home yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:20 pm


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Hello, guys. I'm gonna need something new for Jasper to do. I don't plan on having my activity with him waver because one person left. :/

-pounce-
Go to Pronta or Luray and start training the new people! We have no one around who can train them, and my rogue Prontan isn't nearly ready to return home yet.


Conner is already the Captain of Luray and as soon as someone post, I'll post with him. :3

But if you guys at Pronta need someone, then I'll help. However, I want to know if Fen plans on RPing as his RPC's daughter. She does still have Envy...
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:23 pm


Honestly Squimay, I think we should make Atlas or Shilon Adept so they can be Captain and train the others.

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