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 Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:16 am
Not sure where I heard this but I heard that Hell would be a more intresting place than Heaven, because in Heaven everyone is content and free from the temptions of Earth. So in other words it's a pretty boring place.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:19 am
Missing nin Itachi Not sure where I heard this but I heard that Hell would be a more intresting place than Heaven, because in Heaven everyone is content and free from the temptions of Earth. So in other words it's a pretty boring place. Yeah if being tortured for the sins you commited on Earth for an eternity and feeling the abandonment of God can be considered interesting. Seriously Hell is the one place I do not want to be.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:21 am
Johnny Malone Missing nin Itachi Not sure where I heard this but I heard that Hell would be a more intresting place than Heaven, because in Heaven everyone is content and free from the temptions of Earth. So in other words it's a pretty boring place. Yeah if being tortured for the sins you commited on Earth for an eternity and feeling the abandonment of God can be considered interesting. Seriously Hell is the one place I do not want to be. I kinda like Jhonen Vasquez's version of hell, just like Earth except full of a**-holes.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:21 am
Stay away from the Netherlands then. ( I think that's the area, can't remember for certain. ) There's a town or something there that's seriouslly called " Hell. "
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:23 am
Missing nin Itachi Johnny Malone Missing nin Itachi Not sure where I heard this but I heard that Hell would be a more intresting place than Heaven, because in Heaven everyone is content and free from the temptions of Earth. So in other words it's a pretty boring place. Yeah if being tortured for the sins you commited on Earth for an eternity and feeling the abandonment of God can be considered interesting. Seriously Hell is the one place I do not want to be. I kinda like Jhonen Vasquez's version of hell, just like Earth except full of a**-holes. Dante's Hell was true punishment. I liked it a lot, while I don't know what Hell exactly is like Dante's version was really close to what Catholics believe Hell may be like.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:26 am
Darkened Angel Stay away from the Netherlands then. ( I think that's the area, can't remember for certain. ) There's a town or something there that's seriouslly called " Hell. " That kinda reminds me of this.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:41 am
Iced Earth has a song called "Dante's Inferno", and it talks about all the levels of hell and such.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:11 am
Flying on wings of steel. Thundering, we are breaking the seal. Fighting for the oath we sworn. To spread the word of a legend reborn. Hammerfall is nice and all, but nothing sets you free like a heavy metal hamster! http://metalhamster.ytmnd.com/
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:35 am
Iced Earth - Dante's Inferno
[Music : Schaffer / Lyrics : Schaffer]
Through the fiery caverns we sail
Virgil at my side my guide and master
Questing through the nine plains of hell
Infernal wisdom shall fill my soul
Slowly now the days departing
The darkened air releases me
Frightening visions of my journey
Entrance me to limbo I'm not
Free
Abandon all hope who enter here
Enter the gates, Charon awaits
Abandon all hope who enter here
For this is where all things are left behind
Every doubt and every cowardice must die
Souls of rage and anger whipping in despair
The souls that wail on this plain pray for death
Denial is the reason for their suffering
Forever being stung by wasps and demons breath
The blood and tears that fall serve the maggots need
Descention, thrusting to the second plain
Minos judges as his tail twines
Lustful thoughts and greed whip these wretched souls
A hurricane of hate mocks their helpless pleas
Drifting now down deeper, into eternal flames
Awake at the third circle, the cold and filthy rain
Punished for their gluttony, languid for all time
The earth it stinks of corpses, damned for all time
The vicious beast Cerebus, three heads, blooded eyes
Tears his talons through the air, all the skinners cry
Down, be still thy cursed wolf
The master scorns its name
Dive to the next plain
The sullen and the vain
Suffer for greed
The prodigal they bleed
For all eternity
Plutus holds the key
Damned, the wrathful and the vain
Suffer the fifth plain
Cross the river Styx
Heed your crucifix
The mudded corpses cry
Howling to the sky
Reach the other side
Open wide the gate
Enter the sixth circle of barren land and flames
Passing through the gate of dis the furies scream her name
Belching forth in agony invoking her to rise
The spirit's rage consuming us the evil in their cries
Queen of vipers, queen of serpents
Cast their souls to stone
Spread to wealth of Gorgon's power
Medusa's inner soul
We're drawing ever closer to the seventh hell
They violate their neighbors, their god and themselves
We're sailing slowly through the boiling river of blood
Immersed in the depths below souls scream in agony
The twisted beast he laughs, he draws his arrow back
His sights on anyone exposing of their flesh
He impales their hearts with ease
And shrugs their piercing screams
Pity is they'll never die
They'll suffer here eternally
Imagine a place where every horror comes to life
Where every torture is real and time stands still
Eight fiery steps and we're closer to the end
In a cold and timeless grave buried head first in s**t
Praying all the while for a quick & painless death
Scratching furiously at scabbed and oozing wounds
Lucifer ... angel of light
Cast below god of ice
Ruling hell unholy trinity
The traitors freeze for all eternity
Lucifer ... betrayer of god
Tormentor ruthless and cold
Judas' screaming here in agony
The traitors freeze for all eternity
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:40 am
There was an operational problem with Dante, though, and that was the assumption that ignorance of the christian faith is just as worthy of sin as failing to believe in it.
Thus, any time before about 100 AD (the beginning of the movement) meant that you went to hell one way or another, even if you were devout (unlikely).
On top of that, the tortures in dante's hell was inversely wrong. It got smaller and smaller the deeper you went, but the first four rings of hell are so easilly ignored by modern society (not baptised is strictly level one) that nobody would be able to be out of level 4.
Hell, most catholics alone qualify for level 5. And Dante did not believe in what i call "drive through salvation". So you can't go to church after murder, and have your sins purged by a couple Ave Marias.
So while Inferno is fun, the last problem is that so few people actually read Purgatorio or Paradiso.
And read Paradiso, and you'll find heaven is not equal. Depending on how devout you were meant you got different amounts of pleasure. Being just mediocre meant you basically were fed and clothed, but not much else... the nine pillars are almost as bad as the nine levels (which really are 12 if you break down the sublevels) of hell.
Although, i liked how Dante added the lawyer to the seventh level of hell...
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:44 am
Its a universal law.
Lawyers are the scum of the world.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:55 am
Yes, but he converted one into a snakelike creature with bear paws and was a means of transport down to the murderers (oddly not the lowest rung in hell), the liars, and then the swindlers.
edit: But then again, when dealing with jealous gods, what can you expect? Lawyers probably could swindle heaven... So, Ihva, being jealous as he is, automatically cast such people down. In a way, they're pre-disposed to such fates, before they even try.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:25 am
I have read Purgatorio and Paradiso and I love them both. And arguably the worst sin can be considered being a traitor.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:33 am
I kinda remember the punishments for sme of the seven deadly sins, lets see if I can remember them.
Gluttony= forced to eat snakes, maggots, worms, and an assortment of bugs.
Sloth= I think it was that you were put on a rack and had your limbs riped apart.
Lust= pit of coals, I think...
and I cant remotely remember the punishments for pride, wrath, envy, and greed.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:37 am
Another link! This time it's an interesting look on the inner workings of Heaven
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