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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:57 pm
unjustified anger and jealousy is a sin. Like, coveting, that's directly against the commandments.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:01 pm
rockmanx Ya'll sure are bussy when I'm gone. I do want to ask Bait a question. Can you please defind how is anger & jealousy a sin much less one of the flesh? Last I chack God has been both angery and jealous and He can't sin. Well, jealousy in the sense of "thou shalt not envy", which you may recall from a little thing called the Ten Commandments. And anger ... I probably should have clarified that as "strife, dissension, enmity" ... then again, just check Galatians 5:19-21. That one lists the "works of the flesh", and it certainly (at least, in the KJV) lists "anger" among them. Now, how God can be both of these and tell us not to? I suspect it's not because He sins (He can't), nor because He uses a double standard (He doesn't), but because He knows how to do things right, and we pathetic humans can't even get one nation to agree on the same language. But that's just my opinion. Good question, though, Rockmanx.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:14 pm
Dragonbait xXSnuffXx Oi. We're crumbling. *sits in her corner* Ah, Snuff. Sorry, been so caught up in a few downloads I didn't even notice your post. My fault. What's up? Xiterrose Hey, Snuff. Sorry about all this. sad What's up? No biggie. A lot I guess. Just not anything of any importance. Meh.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:42 pm
Cool. How is school going? Same old boringness?
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:34 am
Yay, even if there was a lil'trouble, ppl are talking a tad more in here, xp sweatdrop
See conflict can be annoying yet it does make things interesting for awhile, >_>;;
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:07 am
Xiterrose Cool. How is school going? Same old boringness? Pretty much. Had to sing and dance (in french) infront of the class last week. Scarry stuff. But it was fun watching other people xp Other than that, nothing too interesting.
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:12 am
Ace xAngel Yay, even if there was a lil'trouble, ppl are talking a tad more in here, xp sweatdrop See conflict can be annoying yet it does make things interesting for awhile, >_>;; npt to mention the bills it pays for lawyers, politicians, psychiatrists, and funeral directors whee GAH I'd never be able to sing and dance, in english or french. Actually, going by past precedent, I'd do better in french since I freeze up and forget english when I need to do something in front of people, even though it's the only language I know.... sweatdrop At least it's over and you got to watch people.
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:27 pm
Dragonbait rockmanx Ya'll sure are bussy when I'm gone. I do want to ask Bait a question. Can you please defind how is anger & jealousy a sin much less one of the flesh? Last I chack God has been both angery and jealous and He can't sin. Well, jealousy in the sense of "thou shalt not envy", which you may recall from a little thing called the Ten Commandments. And anger ... I probably should have clarified that as "strife, dissension, enmity" ... then again, just check Galatians 5:19-21. That one lists the "works of the flesh", and it certainly (at least, in the KJV) lists "anger" among them. Now, how God can be both of these and tell us not to? I suspect it's not because He sins (He can't), nor because He uses a double standard (He doesn't), but because He knows how to do things right, and we pathetic humans can't even get one nation to agree on the same language. But that's just my opinion. Good question, though, Rockmanx.
Good news, I'm almost do with the book of Deuteronomy. Four more tapes to go. xd
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:05 pm
Oy. They won't stop peoplepersoning me. I'm not a peopleperson. People and me are not a good combination. I'm shy, extremely so, and extremely selfconscious and hating of myself, which I am getting over but don't these people realize that shoving me into a situation where I have to talk to people is going to make me close up more and maybe, just MAYBE, I prefer reading, writing, laughing, and thinking much more than I enjoy sitting in a group of people who make me feel like I'm from the planet mars and who make it so I have to change who I am just to fit in, now tell me, WHY would it make me happier to giggle about, "Ooh, Brad looked at me the other day, heheheehe" or "Oh my gosh, did you watch American Idol? He is so worth sleeping with." I'm sorry, but I'm weird, and I've always been weird, and by this point I kinda like it that peer pressure doesn't change me any more than making me hate myself more, which is good compared to the other things it could be doing to me. When I say, "No thanks, I prefer to read," do they take that as a cry for help? Maybe I'm the only kid in America who'd rather do homework than talk to people I don't know, but hey, it's who I am, and if they're so big on everyone being unique, why're they trying to make me a people person when I'm NOT a people person? Drives me insane. GAH. Sorry. I'm angry. I'm not a people person and everyone, I swear, everyone, my parents musta organized it or something because I told someone, "College is about getting my degree, not having fun," because my teachers, my parents, teachers and counselors I don't know, my principal, and even my FRIENDS are at it. Sure, I'm gonna have no one I know next year, but that's seriously alright by me, I know they're trying to help, but they just make it harder. gah.  Hope everyone else is having a bit of an easier time today.
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:32 pm
Dragonbait rockmanx Ya'll sure are bussy when I'm gone. I do want to ask Bait a question. Can you please defind how is anger & jealousy a sin much less one of the flesh? Last I chack God has been both angery and jealous and He can't sin. Well, jealousy in the sense of "thou shalt not envy", which you may recall from a little thing called the Ten Commandments. And anger ... I probably should have clarified that as "strife, dissension, enmity" ... then again, just check Galatians 5:19-21. That one lists the "works of the flesh", and it certainly (at least, in the KJV) lists "anger" among them. Now, how God can be both of these and tell us not to? I suspect it's not because He sins (He can't), nor because He uses a double standard (He doesn't), but because He knows how to do things right, and we pathetic humans can't even get one nation to agree on the same language. But that's just my opinion. Good question, though, Rockmanx. not sure if it helps any, or if perhaps I even grabbed this from this Guild, but: "Show me a worm that can fathom man, and I will show you a Man that can fathom God" Or something to that Effect. sweatdrop We are Worms, for lack of better representation. Just little grubby things on the Ground, so little and amazingly ignorent of all that's out there. that's about as good a conparison as you can get. Could we try and explain the Rules and Guidelines that God has set forth for how we should run our lives? Absolutely. Could we scratch the surace on what God's Comandments truly mean, and exactly why God does teh things he does? Absolutley not. hope that made sense, I'm not too sure I made my point xp
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:28 am
rockmanx Dragonbait rockmanx Ya'll sure are bussy when I'm gone. I do want to ask Bait a question. Can you please defind how is anger & jealousy a sin much less one of the flesh? Last I chack God has been both angery and jealous and He can't sin. Well, jealousy in the sense of "thou shalt not envy", which you may recall from a little thing called the Ten Commandments. And anger ... I probably should have clarified that as "strife, dissension, enmity" ... then again, just check Galatians 5:19-21. That one lists the "works of the flesh", and it certainly (at least, in the KJV) lists "anger" among them. Now, how God can be both of these and tell us not to? I suspect it's not because He sins (He can't), nor because He uses a double standard (He doesn't), but because He knows how to do things right, and we pathetic humans can't even get one nation to agree on the same language. But that's just my opinion. Good question, though, Rockmanx.
Good news, I'm almost do with the book of Deuteronomy. Four more tapes to go. xd Good deal. And your question gave me time to come up with a better answer. WE get "jealous" or "angry" ... but we've no right to. We get far better than we deserve. None of us deserves anything but Hell. Do not pass "go", do not collect $200. Go directly to Hell. We should be grateful for the things we receive. Now, God, on the other hand ... He deserves far more than what He gets. Poor God (if that phrase isn't blasphemous) can't even get the people He created to acknowledge Him half the time. And He is the only one worthy of worship ... worship we'd usually rather give to the "almighty" dollar, or showbiz sex-stars, or what-have-you. So, He's justified in anger and jealousy ... we're not.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:43 am
But what if we get angry at something such as, "God is a freaking myth," or someone using God's nname to do evil? That'd make me mad.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:55 am
That's why I commented on language. I personally believe there's a difference in "righteous" anger and just plain pissy-mood. We're actually allowed to get angry ... just not to sin because of it. And not to walk around mad all the time.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:39 am
I have never done know indept study on anger other then God does get angry at us. I uselly tell people that anger in itself is not a sin but what you do in anger can be. Some day I do a study on it.
Side note, something was brought to my attendtion in my study off Deuteronomy. I'm sure some of ya'll remember our talk on divorce. It was brought to my attendtion that people did not divorce over fornication. The punishment for fornication was death, not divorce. So I'm going to have to dig a little more deeper on this subject.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:55 am
Well, about now it's illegal in many countries to kill someone for adultery. That falls under law of the land I guess, but in those cases, as someone cannot have his or her spouse killed for it, is that why adultery is a justified inullment(please excuse my spelling) today?
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