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Well I personally reviewed it here:

http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=24270903

And confusing enough, 2/3 judges disagreed and gave Bojuka an overwhelming victory.

It's been argued to death, commented on to death, and the basic consensus is "neener neener neener, judges be judging." Which is fair enough.

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Well, I rabbled on it a bit in Skype and this is my own two cents.

Note I'm not s**t talking the judges or their efforts here. Just, I've got my fair share of experience and if I see something that appears to be negative or downward spiraling, I'm gonna point it out usually.

In the public judgement thread [this s**t], I noted the following.

Highs: The lowest overall score is 11/20, since it is public knowledge Bojuka got 13's, and.. I dunno, MAYBE Vintrict got lower? But, the average based on what's present in that thread is around 15-16/20. So that means that nobody, far as I am aware, scored below a 50%. This feels.. odd, like some numbers and categories are inflated for no real reason, entirely -ignoring- the flat bonuses like the "WOW Factor." Much as I want to go "it's because each and every fight was gold!," ...let's not kid ourselves.
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For self-appraisal, I reference my fight with Lucas, Hank Hill vs Lucas. Now I don't particularly fault either of us for a lack of posts, because me and him both got jipped initially on an opponent, and schedules were.. bizarre with that whole incident.

However, I look at the scores.. and I can't.. quite place how I got 19/20 twice.

On the flip side, I can't get into the mindset of my most critical judgement either, where it's a 15/20 vs 16/20 loss - for reasons I'll go over.

Not singling you out Zantara, but let's take your review of Hill.

True to Character: 5
Clarity: 4
Entertainment Value: 5
Domination: 4
Winner:
WOW Factor: 1
Total:19

Now, Hank Hill is really one of the only characters in this entire tournament "True to Character" can fully manifest in my opinion. And while I intentionally take liberties because he's really Super Saiyan 4 Goku fused with Hank Hill and I firmly believe Goku was evil in Dragon Ball Z, I still do a half decent job depicting Hank, and I always keep things IC... IC, so I can accept a decent True to Character score.

Clarity.. this is one of those categories I feel like, being able to read & follow the fight should be expected and assumed, and if you can't, penalties might crop up. Instead I'm getting as many points as I get for entertaining you or besting my opponent, for not writing like a complete retard. That's probably one source of the high curve.

Domination, ... I ... guess? I really don't get why I got such high domination scores from all three judges. We barely got to impact each other. Yeah, I shut his big fire snake attack down hard as ******** and I must admit, I did so in a stylish manner. So I could even accept a higher dominance score, I could see the logic - but almost a perfect dominance score as though I had dictated controlled and annihilated my opponent? I can't take that praise honestly.

So I beat my opponent under his judgement, because I got 1 better Entertainment, 1 better Domination, and a WOW point. But, while I appreciate Wow'in', I don't really know.. what I did to get that.

Yummy's is similar in nature, giving me the win by a larger margin of another point and focusing it more in clarity. I understand his numbers a little better, since Dominance was more centered out between the two of us.

Then we go to my critical judge who deemed me the loser of that bout, Hero. That he said I lost isn't what I take mild objection to. Judges are there to make somebody win and somebody lose and progress.

Hank Wrote:
True to Character: 4
Clarity: 5
Entertainment: 2
Domination: 4
Winner:
WOW Factor:
TOTAL: 15

Lucas Wrote:
True to Character: 5
Clarity: 4
Entertainment: 4
Domination: 3
Winner:
WOW Factor:
TOTAL: 16

"Same as the other two mentioned. However I would like to add that I feel there is a limit to everything, and I feel like Hael is dancing on a line towards straight up IC trolling.

HANK WINS THE MATCH!!! (Note that all my winner choices reflect all three judges decisions.)"

Now, it's a very close point match-up, 15-16, which is *more* where I expected to lie that round than two 19/20's I must admit. But analyzing the numbers..

The implication here is that:

-I bested him in combat or, maintained control of combat.
-I was more clear and clarified better than he did.
-He was more true to his character than I was to mine. [?]
-He was doubly entertaining over my content.

The far latter, Entertainment, which I had gotten 5's in with both other judges, was cut to a 2 with this judge. For comparison, that's a difference of 18-16 versus 15-16, a literal fight deciding score difference that supersedes the minute numerical differences of scores with other judges.

Now I'm not saying Jill's posts weren't entertaining. Nor do I think he had a huge amount of space to express himself with how short the fight was, sure not blaming him for that at all. But, while we all have our own measures of what is and isn't entertaining..

"Put it on my tab."

..is literally the only non-combat thing he said that might have entertainment value in the (brief) match.

So logically, we have to assume that this singular action was so overwhelmingly entertaining, that it weighs more than the notion of me having the fight advantage or my own "entertaining" content outright, to such a degree it single handedly wins him the fight under this judgement.

More likely, this is another repercussion of the high curve; things are built so people are *usually* gonna hit a sweet spot of at least 15/20, so things that normally wouldn't be fight deciders.. decide fights.

I mean again, it's not my tournament and you can take feedback or leave it at your leisure. Just, in my gut after looking over that thread, something seems fundamentally off.

A consistent quality is fair enough.

How I interpreted entertainment is something like (and this is rough):

-Emphasis on mutual enjoyment between both players.
-Lack of negative attitude.
-Creative or vibrant acts that might be more engaging than just your standard fare of "I walk up and punch that guy in the c**k hard as I can, here's how."
-Humor, etc.

But what it appears to be here, and this is touch'n'go, is "What I as a judge find to entertain me." And that seems hardcore subjective, and given that's awarded 1-5 points [can we hit a 0?], that's a huge as ******** range on something that can really vary pretty hard even for the same individual and the same item.

I mean.. I can watch the same episode of an anime different days and like it better or worse based on anything from how my day went to the lighting in my room's impact on my mood. lol

It's really something I feel is a major, major problem. A major point is to work together with your opponent to make decent content, and for that to in turn make for a good atmosphere for others to do the same. That fight..

..reading it was like pulling teeth. If I didn't take joy in shitstorms, ehrghegheg.