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Miriam The Bat

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:20 pm


What the hell is with the rolling eyes? I didn't say that a relationship should be built entirely on sex. But it IS an important part of a relationship. Our species is driven by it, and it's one of the most beautiful things two people can experience. Just because the media makes it look nasty and the church says it's wrong dosen't make it true. It IS communication of heart and feelings, and shouldn't be held back by some ancient belief that you're dirty if you have sex before signing a marriage licence.

Don't be naive. I'm not telling anyone to have sex with the next six people they see, I'm just saying that if two people trust eachother, they shouldn't think they have to hold back.

(I mean, Jeez, the pill is 13 bucks a pack and they give out condoms for free...)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:37 pm


I honestly think it's okay to have sex when you're not married, but preferrably with the person maybe you KNOW you truly love and truly loves you...or you're engaged or whatever...but um...just going around finding random people to do is kinda...uncoool...

*wonders how old Miriam is but feels rude to ask* sweatdrop

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Miriam The Bat

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:40 pm


20.

You do realize that even though you were typing betwen asteriks, you were still asking.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:44 pm


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Thats the way I think, I'm waiting untill marrage. I've dated one buy before this one, and his thoughts were: "okay, This is our first date... I say we go to my house and have sex!" yea... stare that didnt go over too well. The one I have now is such a sweetheart, he's going to be taking me to Ren Fair tomarrow, and he offered to buy me a sword. whee

on a side note: *is looking to buy three dontation letters*
That reminds me of this dumb guy that hit on my when I was still working as a cashier (before my husband and I were dating and all). He wanted me to do on a date with him, but I kinda had this bad feeling about it... So I told him I'd meet him for dinner at a restaurant I liked to go to after work. I told him when I got off, and that I'd meet him at this restaurant. So he showed, up and he said he wasn't hungry, but during dinner he was bragging about his paycheck, but guess who ended up paying for her own meal *nods*
Since I wasn't even off until like 10, then I still had to count my drawer I wasn't there at the restaurant until like quarter to eleven or something. Then this guy still wants to do something after dinner. Of course nothing's open.
So we went outside and he talked while we sat on the tailgate of his pick up (I let him sit down and deliberately sat on the other side of the truck). Now me being smart I'd called dmy mom to tell her I'd be home late, and she aske me to call and check in, I asked her to call me. So at the expected time my mom calls I'm like "What? You need me home?" She's like "Going that well huh?" I'm like "yeah!"
So this guy is complaining that I have to go, but I'm 21 and blah, blah, I'm like "I'm still living at home and there are certain rules I have to follow..." (though curfew wasn't one of the ones I was actually very good about keeping at the time). So he walked me over to my car and moves in for a good-night kiss, I was totally disgusted with this guy and I'm like "No." So his response... was "Well, how about sex?" I just got in my car and left.
At the time I was mortified, but now I look back and I laugh.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:45 pm


sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:53 pm


Oh...sorry. sweatdrop

Um...I thought your parts worked fine at that age... ninja

Oh well. Knowing me I won't have anyone to do that with for a LOOOONG time...*just hopes I'm not going to be a forty year old virgin*

Um...yeah... sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:54 pm


ugh.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:03 pm


Miriam The Bat
ugh.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:05 pm


Miriam The Bat
Personally, I think waiting for marriage is a bad idea. Sex is an important part of a relationship and you should definitely try before you buy. A lot of people expect a loving, romantic, hot wedding night of whoopie and are severely dissapointed.

Spoilers (if you don't wanna read about secks, don't highlight): I can't talk about my first time, but my SECOND time (which unlike the first time, was not against my will) was extremly painful and lasted a grand total of 20 seconds. This is common. It gets better with practice (not MUCH better). It takes a lot of TRUST. But you'll know you've found someone who really loves you if you can suck in bed and they won't be upset, or if they comfort you if they've accidently hurt you, or if they'll stop if you're uncomfortable.

I'm not telling anybody to rush. Wait until you trust eachother enough, and make sure both parties have their protection. I waited about 15 months into my relationship with my fiancee.

Just don't think that sex is evil or dirty or gross and for some reason therefore only something you should save for your spouse. It is probally the entire purpose of life after all. Virginity is a stupid concept and no one is pure, and the "wait till marriage" thing is just a religious thing anyway. Enjoy it while you're young, before your parts stop working.
Yeah, it is different when you wait until your married. I wouldn't say that it was dissapointing though. As silly as it sounds the fact that it was the first time for me and my husband both was actually a relief for me, and we had agreed we would talk about it openly and honestly. I won't lie, the first encounter is awkward... and talking with a frind she said for her the first encounter with each new partner was awkward, reguardless.
And while you say it's good to try it out, I'm glad that I didn't. I know what it's like with my husband and I don't wonder how things would be different if I was with so and so and I don't have anyone to compare my husband to... maybe it could have been "better" with somone else, but I don't know and I don't care!

I agree with you to the extent that you say it's not dirty and gross, but I do believe in saving yourself for marriage. I believe in the sanctity of marriage, and the sacred place that sex holds in that relationship.
I do want to clear up that I don't say this to push my view on others, I don't believe in that either. Everyone has their freedom to choose.

And as far as "protection" none of it is "fail proof" I have a friend who has gotten pregnant while using birth control, condoms, and even an IUD...


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Sex is important, yeah, but Meave thinks the communication of heart and feelings is MORE important. If relationship is built up on sex, it is not reliable. rolleyes
I agree.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:08 pm


bp56
charcoal feathers that image in your siggy is goregous
*nods*
On a side note, I have to ask if you're a Haibane-Renmei fan, 'cause that's the first thing I thought of when I saw your name.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:15 pm


I suppose that sex is different from person to person.

*agrees with Jenannen though* sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:41 pm


*wonders what the guild got reported for*

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:00 am


Very belated replies:

Alex: I would love a shoutbox... someday. But maybe more like Meri's, with the this-is-what-I'm-doing updates, rather than a chatterbox I won't be able to keep up with.

Eclipsed Soul: I think you wanted to just edit your order? That's fine with me. No worries~

Taylor: Feel free to friend me 3nodding

Jenannen: No R-rated movies, no sex before marriage -- you sound like me wink

Miri: (whited out for content)
I didn't make my decision to wait until marriage because I thought sex was dirty or evil or gross. Quite the opposite, I see it as something that is special and sacred and shouldn't be played around with unless you mean business. I'm not saying it has to be limited to procreation, but I never felt it was okay to have sex with someone I did not intend to have children with. "Accidents" should not have to happen. I know that abortion is not the debate, but I hate that so many people see that as their backup birth control. I don't think that virginity is a stupid concept. Like you said, "It is the entire purpose of life." -- Yes, procreation is. So it should not be taken lightly. This is just my belief, and I am not criticizing yours. Just bringing in a healthy debate.

Meriko: *lol* Probably this little discussion that's going on.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:03 am


Keeemeee~ heart

Well, I do have that birthday thread. Perhaps that was seen as a "personal info gathering," although I can't see anyone getting perma-banned for asking what someone's birthday is. *lol* I never did go with my moldy old idea of birthday gifts so perhaps I'll just nuke the thread.

And so far as I know, sensible discussion about sex is a-okay for Gaia's PG-13 rating.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:07 am


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*hugtackle* Helloooo, my little fellow night-owl! I should so be sleeping right now, but I'm enjoying a rare moment of Baby-Ree-sleeping-outside-of-Mommy's-arms. He's decided that bedtime means stay up until ten thirty, fight sleep like crazy, then when Mommy goes to put him in his bed, wake up and blink and whimper until exhausted Mommy gives up and lets him sleep in the big-kids' bed (i.e. with Momma).
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